DB Saiyan Saga Tier Downgrade

[Veronica]

IMG-20240409-232909 hosted at ImgBB

Image IMG-20240409-232909 hosted in ImgBB

ibb.co

"Lethal Technique Garlic-ho Similar to the kamehame-ha, it is Vegeta’s lethal technique. The beam of energy that he releases from his hands can destroy a planet the size of the Earth.”

Source: El manga Legendario

It's a quick debunk, since it's clear that Vegeta's Galic Gun has only the AP to destroy earth and not Jupiter. Thus the current rating like "large planet" Raditz is clearly wrong, as he is 12x less powerful than Vegeta.

My suggestion is to use Vegeta Galic Gun as baseline planet level or upscale it from the statement that you need a PL of 10,000 to destroy a planet.

 

[SlendVeny]

"This nuke can destroy a house"

"Did you know this nuke can only destroy a house?"

 

[Greatsage13th]

Disagree...

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Gotta disagree with this.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Look, I don't like 5-A BoZ but I don't think this has enough evidence.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

While some people may have concerns about downscaling and how that works, this is a horrendously awful reasoning.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Yeah disagree fra

 

[Padaruyos]

IMG-20240409-232909 hosted at ImgBB

Image IMG-20240409-232909 hosted in ImgBB

ibb.co

"Lethal Technique Garlic-ho Similar to the kamehame-ha, it is Vegeta’s lethal technique. The beam of energy that he releases from his hands can destroy a planet the size of the Earth.”

Source: El manga Legendario

It's a quick debunk, since it's clear that Vegeta's Galic Gun has only the AP to destroy earth and not Jupiter. Thus the current rating like "large planet" Raditz is clearly wrong, as he is 12x less powerful than Vegeta.

My suggestion is to use Vegeta Galic Gun as baseline planet level or upscale it from the statement that you need a PL of 10,000 to destroy a planet.

Bro are you kidding me

 

[Greatsage13th]

Bro are you kidding me

Bro did—not—cook.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Bro did—not—cook.

He tried to cook garlic but ended cooked by the garlic…

ho

 

[Excellence616]

Disagree

 

[Nierre]

Common Veronica L I'm afraid

 

[GarrixianXD]

Faulty generalisation.

 

[Jaakor48]

My suggestion is to use Vegeta Galic Gun as baseline planet level or upscale it from the statement that you need a PL of 10,000 to destroy a planet.

You do know that an average planet in DBZ is larger than the super dragon balls which have 3x Earth's diameter and thus about 24x the volume?

Even if his power level was 10,000 with the garlick gun, it wouldn't be baseline

Plus their scaling also comes down to downscaling from his oozaru which is a 10x multiplier

 

[Shadyboi0]

Common Veronica L I'm afraid

Extremely Common.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Is this an April 1st joke?

 

[Damage3245]

I'm not a huge fan of the current rating but the argument in the OP is definitely not the way to go about it...

 

[Shadyboi0]

Thought i was gonna see peak. Shit happens...

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

 

[Shadyboi0]

 

[Ryzen7900X]

yeah no this is completely flawed reasoning. Hard disagree

 

[Jaakor48]

I personally don't even like the namek backscaling due to the hugely non linear nature of the difference between the sagas

But this reasoning is very flawed

 

[That_moron2]

The current ratings are extremely dumb but this is even worse.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Disagree

 

[Padaruyos]

Alright a serious opinion. I think the current 5-A ratings are kinda dumb since power levels are nonlinear (obviously a normal human isn't going to backscale from Frieza's calc) and the databooks makes their statements based on power levels. But this argument is just awful lmao. "I can blow up this planet" doesn't mean I can't blow up Jupiter if I have other 5-A scaling or ideally a 5-A feat, which in fact Vegeta does have here.

 

[Reiner04]

Dayum.

 

[Sparkive]

I love how many people come to this thread to say:
What we currently have sucks, but this is even worse
and... I think the same, I'm sorry but not really

 

[Planck69]

This is horrendous reasoning regardless of whatever issues may exist with current ratings.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

"Lethal Technique Garlic-ho Similar to the kamehame-ha, it is Vegeta’s lethal technique. The beam of energy that he releases from his hands can destroy a planet the size of the Earth.”

Source: El manga Legendario

It's a quick debunk, since it's clear that Vegeta's Galic Gun has only the AP to destroy earth and not Jupiter. Thus the current rating like "large planet" Raditz is clearly wrong, as he is 12x less powerful than Vegeta.

My suggestion is to use Vegeta Galic Gun as baseline planet level or upscale it from the statement that you need a PL of 10,000 to destroy a planet.

You forget that there's a big language barrier here, from the translators

 

[Damage3245]

This has been universally rejected; closing the thread.