Darkspine Sonic Downgrade

[Capejedi]

I feel as though Darkspine Sonic was overestimated a bit on his attack potency/ durability

This is just my Logic, and not any number crunching

The reason he's at Universe level, is due to the final boss saying that he's capable of "remaking this world and this reality in my own image" (source here, quote is at 2:28)

However, Erazor wasn't fighting Darkspine Sonic at full power. He had lost part of the power he was using (at 2:45 in above video, you can see him losing some if the artifacts that were powering him), and as such, wasn't actually at his Universe rewriting potential during the ensueing battle.

And I don't think it was a case of "I absorbed all the power, so I don't need this anymore", as those same rings are how Sonic accessed the Darkspine form in the first place.

Finally, logic dictates that Sonic didn't just gain universal power from the Rings he got, as he only received 4 of them for the form, as opposed to the 7 needed for a Reality Rewrite

This leads me to the conclusion that the Darkspine form is merely a Multi-Galaxy buster at best, not Universal

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

This can easily be debunked.

After transforming by using the World Rings, Erazor immediately destroyed the Arabian Nights reality just by existing. Then he says he'd remake it in his own image.

Then here you see Darkspine Sonic restoring it with his reality warping after defeating Erazor.

 

[ShakeResounding]

This is the same logic AnimateRewind used to bring Darkspine to Multi-Galaxy, but it doesn't hold any water. I disagree with this due to Shadow's reasons.

 

[HST_Master]

I disagree. He didn't need all of the rings to do so but without the ones Sonic took, he took an incomplete form. Nothing indicating he somehow only partially warped the place.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I agree with Shadow as well, Low 2-C Darkspine is legit.

 

[Capejedi]

If Sonic was capable of undoing a Reality warp with just 4 rings, then why did Erazor need all 7 to warp it in the first place?

Also, what if they are just teleporting to space or something?

 

[HST_Master]

If Sonic was capable of undoing a Reality warp with just 4 rings, then why did Erazor need all 7 to warp it in the first place?

Also, what if they are just teleporting to space or something?

Like I said, without all 7 he entered an incomplete state: Alf Layla Wa Layla.

And why are we assuming that space in the Arabian Nights looks somehow different than the real world? Especially after we've already seen the night sky.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Not to mention you don't see any stars or other celestial bodies which clearly depicts the area as being an empty void.

 

[Mephistus]

Well, Alf Layla Wa Layla looks like he left one yellow sun untouched, the yellow ball behind him, the instant after he transformed.

The rest of the space background is an unnatural convulsing grey-black color, without anything besides that resembling a celestial body. Clearly not the outer space we all know and love with all the pretty stars going bye bye.

By Sonic's own admission, Alf Layla Wa Layla mere transformation already did what he sought to and remade the world into something that repulsed Sonic: "If this is your world". So 2-C level.

Darkspine overpowered him and took his attacks soz, powerscaling.

 

[Antvasima]

So what are the conclusions here?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Darkspine is staying at Low 2-C.

 

[IvoryAS]

Seems to be keep stats as is ,with little to no well-supported arguements depicting otherwise.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Should we close this then?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yes.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I will do so then.