Dark Samus VS. Darth Sidious

[WeeklyBattles]

Sidious resists mind weakening effects

 

[SomebodyData]

To the degree of Dark Samus' ability?

Also: "This process also gradually deteriorated Sidious' mind." Doesn't seem he does according to the profile, at least, not the Legends side.

 

[Eficiente]

Pretty sure stats reduction is for raw stats / physical stats no?

No, if a character can get smarter via a technique then it would also be Statistics Amplification. Which I'm pretty sure some PKMN moves do.

DS does the opposite.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He resists powers like Force Slow, Force Diminish, Force Suppression, and Battle Meditation, yes, he resists it

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Wait is it true that Mid-Godly means immune to mind hax now?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

No one answered my question....

 

[Catalyst75]

I did. When did Palpatine have Universal Mindhax when literally all of Star Wars takes place in a Singular Galaxy?

Funny enough, while not universal, I may have a quote of him mindhaxing the entire Galaxy by sheer pressence.

If it is from a supplementary book's flavor text, I don't know how that could be taken literally if the character hasn't displayed anything remotely like that in the story proper.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

If it is from a supplementary book's flavor text, I don't know how that could be taken literally if the character hasn't displayed anything remotely like that in the story proper.

It's not. It comes from the Revenge of the Sith novel, right in the narrative.

 

[Catalyst75]

If it is from a supplementary book's flavor text, I don't know how that could be taken literally if the character hasn't displayed anything remotely like that in the story proper.

It's not. It comes from the Revenge of the Sith novel, right in the narrative.

So, what reason is there to take it literally?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

The fact that weaker characters have done something similar, though limited to planets.

Edit: I am referring to King Omnin, btw. Whose mere presence was infecting the whole of the moon Dxun during the events of Knights of the Old Republic (the comic about Ulic Qel-Droma, not the game about Revan).

 

[Catalyst75]

The fact that weaker characters have done something similar, though limited to planets.
Edit: I am referring to King Omnin, btw. Whose mere presence was infecting the whole of the moon Dxun during the events of Knights of the Old Republic (the comic about Ulic Qel-Droma, not the game about Revan).

I thought Palpatine himself was limited to the scope of dominating a single planet as well. Claiming he could do the same to the entire galaxy's populace sounds like hyperbole, to me.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Via scaling (as much as I hate it) and an actual statement of him doing it (though I have been searching for it, now I can't find it), we apply it.

But yeah, until I find the specifi statement, ignore what I said. ovo

 

[00potato]

If you can't find it while searching, why should we believe you?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

"Ignore what I said"

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Alright, I found the quote. However, I was misremembering the quote itself. It isn't talking about mindhax, but of his pressence:

"Depowered lampdisks were rings of ghostly gray floating in the gloom. The shimmering jewelscape of Coruscant haloed the knife-edged shadow of the chair. This was the office of the Chancellor. Within the chair's shadow sat another shadow: deeper, darker, formless and impenetrable, an abyssal umbra so profound that it drained light from the room around it. And from the city. And the planet. And the galaxy. The shadow waited. It had told the boy it would. It was looking forward to keeping its word. For a change.

The Coruscant nightfall was spreading through the galaxy. The darkness in the Force was no hindrance to the shadow in the Chancellor's office; it was the darkness. Wherever darkness dwelled, the shadow could send perception." —Revenge of the Sith

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I was mistaking it for mindhax, because King Ommin does something similar to this; he touches all the darkness in Dxun and amplifies it.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Can't sidious just, you know, ******* disintegrate her with one move? Like completely, nothing left. He's 4-b to her low 4-c.

 

[Schnee_One]

She has Mid Godly regen, she can regenerate from nothing

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Hmm, alright.


Following. Not voting yet.

 

[Theglassman12]

How does mid godly Regenerationn suddenly grant you immunity to mindhax?

 

[Schnee_One]

It really shouldn't, and that thread wasn't accepted from what I can tell.

Hell, Masadaverse is a walking middle finger to that idea.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Dark Samus has Universe levels of mind manipulation + Corruption + Mid-Godly Regenerationn. Which might get upgraded to High Universal levels of that given that Chozo lore states the Universe is Infinite in size. And it also works on "Non-Corporeal deities who have both entire Space-time Continuum levels of cosmic awareness and were stated to exist outside the boundaries of time and space."

Also, Regenerationn =/= Mind hax resistance. And Mind hax resistance isn't the best choice of words but rather Dark Samus is already mind haxing herself passively.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Infinite in Size

…..That massively changes the match if true, given Sidious has no way of resisting that in that case.


I don't think the latter part of what it works on matters though

 

[BloodyBloodwork365]

The whole 'Phazon infecting gods' thing can help my arguement for DS vs Frieza on DBF

Gonna go with Dark Samus. Not even Nihilus can beat this monster goddess.

 

[AshenCrow777]

Dark Samus literally uno reverse card dark sidious to death.