Dante DMC 7-A vs. Wilhelm Ehrenburg 7-A speed equalized

[Chasekilleen]

Dante (7-A Devil Trigger)

vs

Wilhelm Ehrenburg (7-A Yetzirah/Bri'ah)

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

Wilhelm: shoots out his stakes.

Dante: dies.

Wilhelm: Goes home and bangs Claudia (let's just pretend she's still alive)

 

[DarkGrath]

"Dies Irae vs DMC"

Lmao ******* what

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

"Dies Irae vs DMC"
Lmao ******* what

You think that's bad? Someone on Comicvine threw Dante at Hajun.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Mfw Dante resist soul hax so stakes aren't that dangerous

Me again when I forget he neggs regen up to low godly


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[Eganergo]

Wilhelm ain't that strong, but his soul manip still a lot above Dante.

 

[Chasekilleen]

Mfw Dante resist soul hax so stakes aren't that dangerous
Me again when I forget he neggs regen up to low godly


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Wilhelm can steal stats and lifeforce and boosts it into himself

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Wilhelm ain't that strong, but his soul manip still a lot above Dante.

I remember his soul stock being on the 10k or so, Dante soul hax scales to planet level

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

I thought he only had a soul stock of 8,000? I recall that was stated in Interview with Kaziklu Bey.

 

[Eganergo]

Oof. He has the soul advantage then. Does his resistance scale?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Yes

 

[Chasekilleen]

Oof. He has the soul advantage then. Does his resistance scale?

yes it does.

He heals as long as he has soul fuel and plus with his Bri'ah activated he can absorb the life force and the enemies souls and their stats, including speed and attack and stamina.

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

Honestly, Wilhelm just beats Dante's ass and calls it a day. Goes home to Claudia for some nice German cooking.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Dante resist life force steal and soul absorption

I personally think Dante just needs to tap and let his soul hax do the work

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

Pretty sure Dante doesn't resist life-force steal on Wilhelm's level.

 

[Chasekilleen]

Dante resist life force steal and soul absorption
I personally think Dante just needs to tap and let his soul hax do the work

His life force steal an affect both his own teammates and also opponents and also drain from inanimate objects too.

 

[Eganergo]

Wilhelm suck is not instant. If as Tony said, Dante has the soul advantage. He One-shots and Wilhelm is dead. Also, Dante should be able to resist a few seconds/minutes before he is sucked full.

Not saying Dante will win, vice versa. Just a surface analysis.

With speed unequal, Dante also has massive speed advantage.

 

[Chasekilleen]

Wilhelm suck is not instant. If as Tony said, Dante has the soul advantage. He One-shots and Wilhelm is dead. Also, Dante should be able to resist a few seconds/minutes before he is sucked full.
Not saying Dante will win, vice versa. Just a surface analysis.

With speed unequal, Dante also has massive speed advantage.

You're saying he can one-shot someone that has over 10,000 souls??


Wilhelm and everyone has soul resistance hax

 

[Eganergo]

Tony said Dante soulfuck is on planetary, which I'm sure more than 10.000 since DmC earth isn't that different from our earth.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Dante killed demons with planetary soul hax resistance, this isn't really that much

>His life force steal an affect both his own teammates and also opponents and also drain from inanimate objects too.

None of them resisted but affecting inanimate objects is good tho

>including speed and attack

I don't remember this, what I remember is that absorbing stuff boost his physical attributes which I dunno how helpful is here when Dante blitzes in CQC

 

[Chasekilleen]

Tony said Dante soulfuck is on planetary, which I'm sure more than 10.000 since DmC earth isn't that different from our earth.

Wilhelm was able to match darkness itself that had decillion years worth of nights and a single night was half the planet worth and Wilhelm tanked and destroy Methuselah's Jaws of Darkness.

https://imgur.com/UZQvE1Q

https://i.imgur.com/R2jl2hR.png

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Why is Boosted Wilhelm relevant for this?

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

Chase, those scans are for Wilhelm when supplied with Gladsheimr's souls. This is Wilhelm with his own soul supply.

 

[Chasekilleen]

Chase, those scans are for Wilhelm when supplied with Gladsheimr's souls. This is Wilhelm with his own soul supply.

Point is, Beatrice tanked Methuselah's attacks and she has less souls than him [Wilhelm]

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

She didn't tank it IIRC, she was injured and only regenerated back

 

[Chasekilleen]

She didn't tank it IIRC, she was injured and only regenerated back

Shit, I mean survived. In theory you maybe can scale durability wise to planetary

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Wilhelm doesn't resist time hax, so he's at a major disadvantage in that regard against dante.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

So dante's win con's are :

-Soul hax

-BFR

-Sealing

-Time Hax

Any other's?

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

What is Dante's BFR? It says he has it on his profile, yet the profile doesn't state further on what it is.

Sealing requires to hit Wilhelm with his bullets without Wilhelm dodging or simply throwing his stakes at the bullets.

In terms of time hax; Bangle of Time is a good option but 1) He's never used it in character 2) It's also an optional item received from the secret missions which makes it even more difficult to discern his usage of it in character especially when every cutscene and the anime always show Dante prefers his sword and guns combo, and it's consistently shown throughout the series that he prefers his sword and gun combo.

Quicksilver is somewhat alright, though it would be better for someone to calculate how much it slows down the enemy as, unlike time-stop, time-slow are easily calcable.

Wilhelm, on the other hand, simply needs to stake Dante. Low-Godly Regen negation also means that Bey just needs to hit Dante in the head with a large enough stake or pretend he's in Touhou Project and start shooting out thousands of stakes from everywhere, tearing apart the Son of Sparda's body.

Wilhelm's life-force absorption should be far better than Dante's resistance, so there is that as well.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

BFR is by shooting

Sealing is the same

Dante here is in Devil Trigger, Dante is more serious in this state and I'm pretty sure he will use his hax faster meaning time stop will happen faster than you think

Quicksilver is thought based and IIRC it is like a 498 slow thing

It needs to hit and do damage, I dunno to what Wilhelm scales but Dante one shots 244mt in DT, not only that but he literally dodges everything cuz of speed unequal

Dante resist life force absorption, certainly it won't be enough in the long run but it will definitely give time for Dante to just tap and soul **** him with the humongous gap in soul shit the have ****** up

 

[Galens]

I wonder if the passive fear hax in DT works on Wilhelm as I don't see any resistance on his profile.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

No, just no.

If you think any mind fuckery will work just forget about it.

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

I wonder if the passive fear hax in DT works on Wilhelm as I don't see any resistance on his profile.

Dante don't got that Meth level mindfuck. Also, I think Methuselah has the strongest non-smurf level mindhax.

 

[Galens]

What I remember in other debates is that resistance to mind manipulation only gives you resistance to type 2 fear manipulation, not type 3.

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

What I remember in other debates is that resistance to mind manipulation only gives you resistance to type 2 fear manipulation, not type 3.

You mean type 3 Madness as there is no type 2 or 3 Fear manipulation.

Also, if you actually looked at Methuselah's profile, you see in the explanation on his mind hax is that it implements fear into people and causes them to go into madness.

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

Uh... bump? Oh hey, speed has been equalized.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Nani tf