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I've done a fare amount of threads regarding the Regenerationn of Danny Phantom ghosts. Some went well and they have reached Mid-High level, others did not go so well, involving attempts to upgrade their regen to Low-Godly and I still hate myself for how I acted towards others who were apart of those threads, it wa uncalled for and I wasn't in the right state of mind back then. Rest assured I will not act the way I did before and the stuff I'm using in this thread has info not used in any other thread regarding their regen that I have made so this is not a repeat.
Ghost Physiology
I created a blog explaining what ghosts in Danny Phantom actually are, it talks about their physiology, what types of ghosts there are and what standard powers they have. This blog is not finished and is a bit messy but it has most of the stuff that you will need to know for this discussion, so I suggest you take a look at it but I will still be going over parts in it just cause.
Ectoplasmic Energy + Consciousness = Core: Ghosts in Danny Phantom are more complicated then most people believe and while I'm sure Butch Hartman didn't intend on this happening it ended up this way. A ghost is made up of two this, the first being ecto energy and the second being consciousness. Both of these together make a core that manifests a form of ectoplasm which ghosts use as their "body". Everything a ghosts creates contains a piece of their consciousness from their form, energy projections and constructs and even the realms they create and they manipulate them from the main core. When a ghosts core is destroyed or they get to far away from their construct eveything that they created is destroyed or vanishes as a result do to them no longer connected that part of themselves. A few examples of this is when Johnny 13 was sealed inside the Fenton Thermos his bike vanished on screen or when Desiree was sealed like Johnny all her monsters vanished or when Skulker moved to far away from his ectoplasm traps the vanished.
Their Existance: Ghosts naturally exist on a seperate plane of existance which is why when a human enters the Ghost Zone the become a "ghost" and can passively phase through anything in it. This is actually the same for ghosts in the series which is why you do see ghosts phase through objects without using their intangibility power because they are naturally Non-Corporeal beings who are not on the same plane as a human. However ghosts have the power to control their forms to an unholy degree as it is nothing but a manifestation of their consciousness and energy. They can turn themselves tangible and give themselves false organs, skeletons, change into gas or energy, change their size and give themselves extra limbs. They make themselves physical in order to physically interact with the real world plane and they use their Intangibility to phase through the real world while they are "physical" instead of returning back to their Non-Corpreal forms because even while using the intangibility power they can still physically touch things in the human world.
Anti-Ghost Technology & Ecto Energy: This is the reason why humans more so ghost hunters created Anti-Ghost Technology or use Ecto Weapons to fight ghosts because even when a ghost is physical they are nothing but ectoplasm and feel no pain. Anti-Ghost Technology ignores a ghosts physiology and actually causes them pain which is why in the season 1 episode 10 titled "Shades of Gray" Danny was so surprised when Valerie's weapons actually harmed him but a few minutes before this sam tossed a book that split through his physical form but he felt no pain because it was just a book. The same goes for weapons that uses Ecto Energy, they use the energy ghosts are made out of so they actuall feel it and this is explained by Danny in season 1 episode 13 titled "Fright Night" when Danny entered Pariah's Keep and was cut by a trap he felt pain and said that in the Ghost Zone "ghosts can be hurt" which is do to everything being made out of the same thing their manifestations are made of which is Ectoplasm. This is also the reason ghosts feel pain when other ghosts attack them because they are the same, it's basically a battle of energy and consciousness when it comes to two ghosts fighting as they are hitting each other on that level which I explained in a previous thread which was accepted.
Regenerationn: Now on to the thing I want to talk about. As I explained, a ghost is made up of ecto energy + consciousness which makes up their core which manifests a form that they can manipulate at will. Their Regenerationn is not passive, like Piccolo from Dragon Ball it is thought based. They use their body control to restore the form they created back to normal, a few examples of this are Technus who reformed himelf from being splattered and please note that Technus did not reform quickly because he was merged with the technology and waited for Danny to sell all the junk off so he would need to fight Danny and he wanted Dash to finish the upgrade to the computer, the Lunch Lady could restore her meat form after Danny obliterated them into tiny pieces, Hotep RA restored his form after it was turned to dust, Nocturn restored his form from steam, several ghosts restored their form from gas and all ghosts an restore their forms after being sucked up by the Fenton Thermos which breaks down their manifested form. Their is also Danny himself wh restored his form after Freakshow turned him into jelly and he was splattered into a small puddle of jelly, Dani Phantom who was untable and after she became stablized and reformed herself from a her ectoplam without using all the ectoplasm she was reduced to. Their are more feats but Butch Hartman does do a video about what happed to Danny after the accident and before the first episode of the series.
Here is that video, in this video Butch talks about how Danny in that time frame was putting himself back together and this included his consciousness while in his human form and compares it to Doctor Manhatta from the Watchmen movie and he goes on to say they played with this idea with Dani. She was unstable and throughout both episodes she appeared in at several times her form was falling apart and this is do to her being unstable, he core isn't stable like other ghosts so she had to focus in order to keep herself together. As I talked about before, you will know because their creations are also destroyed. Which brings us to Undergrowth. In his episode "Urban Jungle" Danny blows up Undergrowth's main body along with his core which caused all of his plants to die out because Undergrowth's consciousness was no longer connected to them. After about a minute Undergrowth regenerates a new form but it took him time becaues Danny shattered his consciousness. As I said before, ghosts attack the consciousnees as well and like in the video Butch made, Undergrowth had to pull his consciousness back together so he could make a new manifestation. This is something that happens when a ghosts core is destroyed or cut off from their creations. When Technus was destroyed in the episode "Flirting with Disaster", all of the things he infected with his consciouness blew up because his main consciousness could no longer keep them active since it was shattered. Vortex spread his consciousness throught the storm he created and as soon as he was sealed inside the Fenton Thermos, all his weather effects ended because his main consciousness was cut off from the rest.
Info
Since the blog is incomplete and a bit messy I'm going to add some of the info in this section so people can see where I got some of this information. Here is some info about a ghosts physiology and more.
Season 1 episode 15 titled "Public Enemies". At 18:10 Maddie Fenton calls Danny a "manifestation of ectoplamic energy and post human consciousness"
Is Maddie's statment legit?. I don't see a reason not to take what she says as fact considering she's one if the smartest people in the series with lots of knowleadge on ghosts. She was one of three people capable of building a Ghost Portal that leads to their realm, she has also built dozens of weapons that negate a ghosts physiology and their powers and more so she knows what she's talking about. Even in an alternetive timeline she had knowleadge on ghosts like Clockwork so her word is good.
Season 3 episode 6 titled "Urban Jungle"
At 11:20 Frostbite and Danny have a conversation about his ice powers and this is the first time the core concept was introduced.
Danny: I tried to stop him but I don't remember much once the cold sensation started taking me over.
Frostbite: Ah yes, the "cold sensation". Your central core reading indicates extreme cold, as if your body is self genrating it. I sensed it within you the last time we met.
At 12:23
Frostbite: Now then, lesson one, stop shivering.
Danny: I can't.
Frostbite: That is because the cold is contained within you and every since you have acquired your ghost abilities, you have only been letting it out in small amounts.
Danny: Like when?.
Frostbite: Everytime you sense a ghost is nearby.
Danny: My Ghost Sense?. It's been apart of this freeze power all along?.
Firstly, Frostbite's words can be taken as fact as he not only has the same power as Danny and is already well trained in it's use. He has knowleadge over many ghost objects and the Ghost Zone itself so his word is valid. Frostbite was able to sense the cold generating itself from Danny's core and Danny does the same thing everytime a ghost is near. His Ghost Sense is his core reacting to the core of another ghost and it is visably shown when through his ice powers that have yet to manifest.
The reason other ghosts don't have a visible "Ghost Sense" is because their cores arn't generating extreme cold like Danny or Frostbite. However they generate just enough cold to trigger Danny's. This power is also known by ghosts which is why they are not surprised when Danny finds them or ready for them.
Season 2 episode 14 titled "Beauty Marked"
At 6:22, Dorathea says "You see, the boy is destracted, the ring masks me from his Ghost Sense"
So other ghosts not only know about the Ghost Sense, they know how it works and how to counter it. So they know about the whole "core" thing. Here are a few things with ghosts constructs and such containing their consciousness.
Season 1 episode 5 titled "Splitting Images"
At 13:27 Danny sends his energy through the mirror portal to contact Sam and Tucker. This energy contained his consciousness as not only did it make it's way through the school, it went outside and wrote a message in the dirt next to them.
Season 2 episode 12 titled "Flirting with Disaster"
At 18:09 Technus starts shooting beams of energy which contain his consciousness. When these beams touched electronics you can see visually see Technus within them.
Season 3 episode 4 titled "Torrent of Terror".
At 14:20 the weather lady says "Savere weather conditions with faces are now in effect on all four corners of the globe".
At 15:56 Votrex says "I have sceeceded in desrupting weather patterns all over the globe. I am the perfect storm."
Vortex directly states the "he is the storm" this is shown via the faces in the storm are Vortex's.
Season 3 episode 6 titled "Urban Jungle" (Same one I linked above but will do again)
At 6:15 Undergrowth his plants contain his consciousness.
Undergrowth: My consciousness, my will, will spread across the globe.
These moments in the show visually showcase that ghost constructs and energy the create contains their very consciousness. Here are some moments showing what happens when a ghost is sealed or their core is destroyed.
Season 1 episode 14 titled "13"
At 18:10 Danny seals Johnny inside the Fenton Thermos and his motorcycle vanishes on screen in a flash of light.
Season 2 episode 1 titled "Memory Blank"
At 18:44 Danny seals Desiree in the Fenton Thermos and all her monsters she created vanish one by one.
Season 2 episode 4 & 5 titled "Reign Storm"
At 37:05 Danny punches Pariah Dark and when this happens, Amity Park fades in and out of the Ghost Zone.
At 37:40 when Danny closes the coffin on Pariah a blue energy wraps itself around Amity Park and when the coffin is locked, Amity Park returns the the Human World and all of Pariah's soldiers are destroyed. These events happen because Pariah was the one to pull Amity Park to the Ghost Zone and was keeping it their but when Danny hit him his focus slipped for a moment. When he was fully sealed all his soldiers blew up because they were connected to him.
Season 2 episode 12 titled "Flirting with Disaster"
At 19:20 Danny sends his rocket backpack into Technus and it blows him up which causes all the other objects infected by Technus to do the same.
Season 3 episode 6 titled "Urban Jungle"
At 18:10 Danny blows up Undergrowth's main body and core which is evident by what happens next. Every single last plant Undergrowth created and contained his consciousness and will rot away because his main consciousness was no longer connected to them. Here is some info on the existing on a different plane stuff.
Season 1 episode 8 titled "Prisoners of Love"
At 15:40 Sam and Tucker passivly phase through Walker's prison and they didn't know they could.
At 16:22 Sam states that real world stuff passes through stuff in the Ghost Zone and that they are the ghosts. Danny then turns human which allows him to phase through Walker without issue.
In this video at 1:27 Butch states that the humans become ghosts. This is why you see ghosts phase through objects without their intangibility because passivly they are on a different plane of existance when they go to the human world which is why they need to make physical manifestations of themselves so they can interact with the world freely. There are more moments like these. Here are two showings of ghosts manifesting a form.
Season 1 episode 12 titled "Teacher of the Year"
At 6:11 Technus exits through Danny's ear piece and manifests a form.
Season 3 episode 9 titled "Frightmare"
At 6:35 Nocturn manifests a form.
This shows how they make their forms, I will answer any question about the stuff in this thread. I apologize if these videos won't play for some people and if the time stamps are off let me know.
Conclusion
Since a ghosts true form is just a non-corpreal core that is made up off ecto energy and consciousness and when this core is destroyed/shattered they need to pull their consciousness back together and restore their core and make a new manifestations. This sounds like Low-Godly Regenerationn to me but I'm not 100% on it which is why we are here. If this is Low-Godly I already know a question will be asked about if this is combat usable or not and the answer is yes. While Butch talks about Danny taking a whole month pull his consciousness together, that was because he had no control as pointed out in the first episode of the show. However he does gain control over himself and given the other ghosts control is on point and had way more time to control themeselves I don't see why they can't do it as fast as Undergrowth but if people are still unsure a Low-Godly overtime could work but first we need to see if this counts as Low-Godly Regenerationn. So, thoughts?.
Ghost Physiology
I created a blog explaining what ghosts in Danny Phantom actually are, it talks about their physiology, what types of ghosts there are and what standard powers they have. This blog is not finished and is a bit messy but it has most of the stuff that you will need to know for this discussion, so I suggest you take a look at it but I will still be going over parts in it just cause.
Ectoplasmic Energy + Consciousness = Core: Ghosts in Danny Phantom are more complicated then most people believe and while I'm sure Butch Hartman didn't intend on this happening it ended up this way. A ghost is made up of two this, the first being ecto energy and the second being consciousness. Both of these together make a core that manifests a form of ectoplasm which ghosts use as their "body". Everything a ghosts creates contains a piece of their consciousness from their form, energy projections and constructs and even the realms they create and they manipulate them from the main core. When a ghosts core is destroyed or they get to far away from their construct eveything that they created is destroyed or vanishes as a result do to them no longer connected that part of themselves. A few examples of this is when Johnny 13 was sealed inside the Fenton Thermos his bike vanished on screen or when Desiree was sealed like Johnny all her monsters vanished or when Skulker moved to far away from his ectoplasm traps the vanished.
Their Existance: Ghosts naturally exist on a seperate plane of existance which is why when a human enters the Ghost Zone the become a "ghost" and can passively phase through anything in it. This is actually the same for ghosts in the series which is why you do see ghosts phase through objects without using their intangibility power because they are naturally Non-Corporeal beings who are not on the same plane as a human. However ghosts have the power to control their forms to an unholy degree as it is nothing but a manifestation of their consciousness and energy. They can turn themselves tangible and give themselves false organs, skeletons, change into gas or energy, change their size and give themselves extra limbs. They make themselves physical in order to physically interact with the real world plane and they use their Intangibility to phase through the real world while they are "physical" instead of returning back to their Non-Corpreal forms because even while using the intangibility power they can still physically touch things in the human world.
Anti-Ghost Technology & Ecto Energy: This is the reason why humans more so ghost hunters created Anti-Ghost Technology or use Ecto Weapons to fight ghosts because even when a ghost is physical they are nothing but ectoplasm and feel no pain. Anti-Ghost Technology ignores a ghosts physiology and actually causes them pain which is why in the season 1 episode 10 titled "Shades of Gray" Danny was so surprised when Valerie's weapons actually harmed him but a few minutes before this sam tossed a book that split through his physical form but he felt no pain because it was just a book. The same goes for weapons that uses Ecto Energy, they use the energy ghosts are made out of so they actuall feel it and this is explained by Danny in season 1 episode 13 titled "Fright Night" when Danny entered Pariah's Keep and was cut by a trap he felt pain and said that in the Ghost Zone "ghosts can be hurt" which is do to everything being made out of the same thing their manifestations are made of which is Ectoplasm. This is also the reason ghosts feel pain when other ghosts attack them because they are the same, it's basically a battle of energy and consciousness when it comes to two ghosts fighting as they are hitting each other on that level which I explained in a previous thread which was accepted.
Regenerationn: Now on to the thing I want to talk about. As I explained, a ghost is made up of ecto energy + consciousness which makes up their core which manifests a form that they can manipulate at will. Their Regenerationn is not passive, like Piccolo from Dragon Ball it is thought based. They use their body control to restore the form they created back to normal, a few examples of this are Technus who reformed himelf from being splattered and please note that Technus did not reform quickly because he was merged with the technology and waited for Danny to sell all the junk off so he would need to fight Danny and he wanted Dash to finish the upgrade to the computer, the Lunch Lady could restore her meat form after Danny obliterated them into tiny pieces, Hotep RA restored his form after it was turned to dust, Nocturn restored his form from steam, several ghosts restored their form from gas and all ghosts an restore their forms after being sucked up by the Fenton Thermos which breaks down their manifested form. Their is also Danny himself wh restored his form after Freakshow turned him into jelly and he was splattered into a small puddle of jelly, Dani Phantom who was untable and after she became stablized and reformed herself from a her ectoplam without using all the ectoplasm she was reduced to. Their are more feats but Butch Hartman does do a video about what happed to Danny after the accident and before the first episode of the series.
Here is that video, in this video Butch talks about how Danny in that time frame was putting himself back together and this included his consciousness while in his human form and compares it to Doctor Manhatta from the Watchmen movie and he goes on to say they played with this idea with Dani. She was unstable and throughout both episodes she appeared in at several times her form was falling apart and this is do to her being unstable, he core isn't stable like other ghosts so she had to focus in order to keep herself together. As I talked about before, you will know because their creations are also destroyed. Which brings us to Undergrowth. In his episode "Urban Jungle" Danny blows up Undergrowth's main body along with his core which caused all of his plants to die out because Undergrowth's consciousness was no longer connected to them. After about a minute Undergrowth regenerates a new form but it took him time becaues Danny shattered his consciousness. As I said before, ghosts attack the consciousnees as well and like in the video Butch made, Undergrowth had to pull his consciousness back together so he could make a new manifestation. This is something that happens when a ghosts core is destroyed or cut off from their creations. When Technus was destroyed in the episode "Flirting with Disaster", all of the things he infected with his consciouness blew up because his main consciousness could no longer keep them active since it was shattered. Vortex spread his consciousness throught the storm he created and as soon as he was sealed inside the Fenton Thermos, all his weather effects ended because his main consciousness was cut off from the rest.
Info
Since the blog is incomplete and a bit messy I'm going to add some of the info in this section so people can see where I got some of this information. Here is some info about a ghosts physiology and more.
Season 1 episode 15 titled "Public Enemies". At 18:10 Maddie Fenton calls Danny a "manifestation of ectoplamic energy and post human consciousness"
Is Maddie's statment legit?. I don't see a reason not to take what she says as fact considering she's one if the smartest people in the series with lots of knowleadge on ghosts. She was one of three people capable of building a Ghost Portal that leads to their realm, she has also built dozens of weapons that negate a ghosts physiology and their powers and more so she knows what she's talking about. Even in an alternetive timeline she had knowleadge on ghosts like Clockwork so her word is good.
Season 3 episode 6 titled "Urban Jungle"
At 11:20 Frostbite and Danny have a conversation about his ice powers and this is the first time the core concept was introduced.
Danny: I tried to stop him but I don't remember much once the cold sensation started taking me over.
Frostbite: Ah yes, the "cold sensation". Your central core reading indicates extreme cold, as if your body is self genrating it. I sensed it within you the last time we met.
At 12:23
Frostbite: Now then, lesson one, stop shivering.
Danny: I can't.
Frostbite: That is because the cold is contained within you and every since you have acquired your ghost abilities, you have only been letting it out in small amounts.
Danny: Like when?.
Frostbite: Everytime you sense a ghost is nearby.
Danny: My Ghost Sense?. It's been apart of this freeze power all along?.
Firstly, Frostbite's words can be taken as fact as he not only has the same power as Danny and is already well trained in it's use. He has knowleadge over many ghost objects and the Ghost Zone itself so his word is valid. Frostbite was able to sense the cold generating itself from Danny's core and Danny does the same thing everytime a ghost is near. His Ghost Sense is his core reacting to the core of another ghost and it is visably shown when through his ice powers that have yet to manifest.
The reason other ghosts don't have a visible "Ghost Sense" is because their cores arn't generating extreme cold like Danny or Frostbite. However they generate just enough cold to trigger Danny's. This power is also known by ghosts which is why they are not surprised when Danny finds them or ready for them.
Season 2 episode 14 titled "Beauty Marked"
At 6:22, Dorathea says "You see, the boy is destracted, the ring masks me from his Ghost Sense"
So other ghosts not only know about the Ghost Sense, they know how it works and how to counter it. So they know about the whole "core" thing. Here are a few things with ghosts constructs and such containing their consciousness.
Season 1 episode 5 titled "Splitting Images"
At 13:27 Danny sends his energy through the mirror portal to contact Sam and Tucker. This energy contained his consciousness as not only did it make it's way through the school, it went outside and wrote a message in the dirt next to them.
Season 2 episode 12 titled "Flirting with Disaster"
At 18:09 Technus starts shooting beams of energy which contain his consciousness. When these beams touched electronics you can see visually see Technus within them.
Season 3 episode 4 titled "Torrent of Terror".
At 14:20 the weather lady says "Savere weather conditions with faces are now in effect on all four corners of the globe".
At 15:56 Votrex says "I have sceeceded in desrupting weather patterns all over the globe. I am the perfect storm."
Vortex directly states the "he is the storm" this is shown via the faces in the storm are Vortex's.
Season 3 episode 6 titled "Urban Jungle" (Same one I linked above but will do again)
At 6:15 Undergrowth his plants contain his consciousness.
Undergrowth: My consciousness, my will, will spread across the globe.
These moments in the show visually showcase that ghost constructs and energy the create contains their very consciousness. Here are some moments showing what happens when a ghost is sealed or their core is destroyed.
Season 1 episode 14 titled "13"
At 18:10 Danny seals Johnny inside the Fenton Thermos and his motorcycle vanishes on screen in a flash of light.
Season 2 episode 1 titled "Memory Blank"
At 18:44 Danny seals Desiree in the Fenton Thermos and all her monsters she created vanish one by one.
Season 2 episode 4 & 5 titled "Reign Storm"
At 37:05 Danny punches Pariah Dark and when this happens, Amity Park fades in and out of the Ghost Zone.
At 37:40 when Danny closes the coffin on Pariah a blue energy wraps itself around Amity Park and when the coffin is locked, Amity Park returns the the Human World and all of Pariah's soldiers are destroyed. These events happen because Pariah was the one to pull Amity Park to the Ghost Zone and was keeping it their but when Danny hit him his focus slipped for a moment. When he was fully sealed all his soldiers blew up because they were connected to him.
Season 2 episode 12 titled "Flirting with Disaster"
At 19:20 Danny sends his rocket backpack into Technus and it blows him up which causes all the other objects infected by Technus to do the same.
Season 3 episode 6 titled "Urban Jungle"
At 18:10 Danny blows up Undergrowth's main body and core which is evident by what happens next. Every single last plant Undergrowth created and contained his consciousness and will rot away because his main consciousness was no longer connected to them. Here is some info on the existing on a different plane stuff.
Season 1 episode 8 titled "Prisoners of Love"
At 15:40 Sam and Tucker passivly phase through Walker's prison and they didn't know they could.
At 16:22 Sam states that real world stuff passes through stuff in the Ghost Zone and that they are the ghosts. Danny then turns human which allows him to phase through Walker without issue.
In this video at 1:27 Butch states that the humans become ghosts. This is why you see ghosts phase through objects without their intangibility because passivly they are on a different plane of existance when they go to the human world which is why they need to make physical manifestations of themselves so they can interact with the world freely. There are more moments like these. Here are two showings of ghosts manifesting a form.
Season 1 episode 12 titled "Teacher of the Year"
At 6:11 Technus exits through Danny's ear piece and manifests a form.
Season 3 episode 9 titled "Frightmare"
At 6:35 Nocturn manifests a form.
This shows how they make their forms, I will answer any question about the stuff in this thread. I apologize if these videos won't play for some people and if the time stamps are off let me know.
Conclusion
Since a ghosts true form is just a non-corpreal core that is made up off ecto energy and consciousness and when this core is destroyed/shattered they need to pull their consciousness back together and restore their core and make a new manifestations. This sounds like Low-Godly Regenerationn to me but I'm not 100% on it which is why we are here. If this is Low-Godly I already know a question will be asked about if this is combat usable or not and the answer is yes. While Butch talks about Danny taking a whole month pull his consciousness together, that was because he had no control as pointed out in the first episode of the show. However he does gain control over himself and given the other ghosts control is on point and had way more time to control themeselves I don't see why they can't do it as fast as Undergrowth but if people are still unsure a Low-Godly overtime could work but first we need to see if this counts as Low-Godly Regenerationn. So, thoughts?.
