Dani Phantom vs All For One

[LordGriffin1000]

Ghost Gal Hero vs The Symbol of Fear

Match Rules

• Both in Character
• Speed is Equalized
• Season 2 Dani | Weakened All For One
• Standard Battle Assumptions for everything else

Votes

Dani Phantom:

All For One: 1

Inconclusive:

 

[Imaginym]

Thread title seems to be miswritten, listing One For All, but the character being used is All For One.

Anyone, what can AFO do if Dani becomes intangible? Looking at his weakened key, he has Attack Reflection... against Physical attacks. & I guess this?
Air Manipulation (Can fire large air blast from his arms)

Would Quirk theft work against DP style Ghosts?

What can he do if she goes intangible & spams energy blasts? Can she do that? Would she do that?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Thread title seems to be miswritten, listing One For All, but the character being used is All For One.

Was half asleep, I fixed it

Anyone, what can AFO do if Dani becomes intangible? Looking at his weakened key, he has Attack Reflection... against Physical attacks. & I guess this?
Air Manipulation (Can fire large air blast from his arms)

While she's intangible, he can't do anything. However, she can't stay like that for long due to her unstable nature.

Would Quirk theft work against DP style Ghosts?

I'm actually not sure.

What can he do if she goes intangible & spams energy blasts? Can she do that? Would she do that?

He can dodge energy blasts pretty easily unless it's up close. She uses energy blasts but due to her unstable nature she has to use her powers sparingly because she'll fall apart if she uses to much energy at one time.

Dani in this key is basically on a timer, if she can't beat him quickly, she'll get tiered and deconstruct into ectoplasm and will be unable to reform.

 

[Imaginym]

That seems problematic for Dani; Are we sure AFO can't outskill her to dodge her energy blasts & counterattack whenever she goes physical? & Dani has to, or at least certainly will, if she knows about her "timer".
He has his own flight (Sort of, I think?) & can attack at range with air blasts, so Dani can't easily win by attrition, even if AFO wasn't skillful & sensible enough to dodge, right?

Are there alternative tactics she could & would go for?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

He does possess the strength and skill to win against her in physical combat and should be capable of dodging her energy blasts from a distance. He'd half to dodge though and not block given ghost energy can effect the body on a molecular level and she can have her attacks phase through his to reach him if he attempted to counter with a ranged attack.

Dani knows she has to manage her power so she'll likely attempt to Overshadow (Possession) him and just beat him down using his own strength. She should be able to get in close and phase into him without to much issue since it's something he can't guard against or really counter but that's only a thing she'd do if needed.

All in all, neither id going to win or lose easily. All For One has the power advantage, skill, plus several abilities and stamina to help him. Meanwhile, Danny has versitality with her ghost abilities and has ways to ignore durability.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I'm actually not sure.

Depends on the ability. If it has anything to do with her DNA structure (stuff like the X-Man mutant Powers) than he can yoink it

He can dodge energy blasts pretty easily unless it's up close. She uses energy blasts but due to her unstable nature she has to use her powers sparingly because she'll fall apart if she uses to much energy at one time.

I mean, he can also just, use reflect and scatter, I mean sure he gets hit but like it’ll go out and be alot more new projectiles

Dani in this key is basically on a timer, if she can't beat him quickly, she'll get tiered and deconstruct into ectoplasm and will be unable to reform.

Nothing really to say on this, just an overall L for her

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Anyways more in AFO’s favor is Search, which will tell him her weaknesses (like for instance, the timer), His experience of over 100 years, it took him just a few minutes on how to use search properly, when even the most basic of quirks like fire throwing take years to master, as we can guess he just arrived. He creates new combos on the spot without really any care, and is superior in terms of skill to anyone we’ve seen in the series excluding AM and Final Act Deku (who is, just a monster.) Meaning he essentially bitch slaps people like Aizawa (who is one of the most skilled people in the verse, as he is able to throughly skill stomp all his students, including Deku and Todoroki, who can keep up with Stain, who skill stomps iida, who fought and surpassed mercenaries who have likely trained for decades).

If a single blast goes through and he knows she‘s weaker (he essentially has a 4x AP advantage, so it’s probably not hard to figure out) he’s going to dodge, and he loves keeping his distance unless your AM.

Oh yeah, the nearly 4x AP and Durability gap.

yeah this is a decisive win for AFO.

 

[Imaginym]

Looking at the Ghost Physiology page:

Ghost Physiology (Danny Phantom)

vsbattles.fandom.com

"There are also half ghosts or halfas as the ghosts call them. Half ghosts are humans who have been exposed to a large amount of ectoplasm and survived. Their DNA is altered and they gain some the standard powers of a ghost while in human form and the ability to transform into a ghost."

This suggests ghost powers are tied to DNA, which may be the case, assuming Dani's process of being created through cloning works with DNA similarly to Half-Ghost DNA alteration.
If so, would this mean she's vulnerable to AFO's Quirk-related abilities? Like stealing her powers?

Plus, with what @Acer__ has said, Are we sure it isn't a Skill Stomp, then? (Not to mention the statistics gap.)

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Looking at the Ghost Physiology page:

Ghost Physiology (Danny Phantom)

vsbattles.fandom.com

"There are also half ghosts or halfas as the ghosts call them. Half ghosts are humans who have been exposed to a large amount of ectoplasm and survived. Their DNA is altered and they gain some the standard powers of a ghost while in human form and the ability to transform into a ghost."

This suggests ghost powers are tied to DNA, which may be the case, assuming Dani's process of being created through cloning works with DNA similarly to Half-Ghost DNA alteration.
If so, would this mean she's vulnerable to AFO's Quirk-related abilities? Like stealing her powers?

only with long enough grip, it works like a faster acting version of what we saw with Nine’s absorption (We can’t tell how fast Shigi’s was)

Plus, with what @Acer__ has said, Are we sure it isn't a Skill Stomp, then? (Not to mention the statistics gap.)

She still does have the funny possession gg, even if it’s unlikely. And if I remember correctly she can still just become incorporeal for a good bit (even if she can’t be invisible cause of infrared vision)

 

[Imaginym]

only with long enough grip, it works like a faster acting version of what we saw with Nine’s absorption (We can’t tell how fast Shigi’s was)

She still does have the funny possession gg, even if it’s unlikely. And if I remember correctly she can still just become incorporeal for a good bit (even if she can’t be invisible cause of infrared vision)

Possession would require her getting close enough to actually get into him, which is a hard task in speed equalized against a much higher skill opponent, & extremely dangerous if he can drain her powers on touch.
Plus, if she does possess him, what does she do? Have him punch himself in the face? She'd have to fight his own body control abilities; I doubt AFO would be unable to resist the body control of Possession, & if he can fight it, that means it costs her Stamina.

Plus, if AFO's Stamina IS high enough, body controlling him to punch himself to death doesn't seem viable if Dani will melt from using ghost powers too long.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Depends on the ability. If it has anything to do with her DNA structure (stuff like the X-Man mutant Powers) than he can yoink it

Her molecular structure is rearranged and infused with ectoplasm.

I mean, he can also just, use reflect and scatter, I mean sure he gets hit but like it’ll go out and be alot more new projectiles

Not if her attacks are intangible before they come into direct contact with him, she's done this before.

Anyways more in AFO’s favor is Search, which will tell him her weaknesses (like for instance, the timer), His experience of over 100 years, it took him just a few minutes on how to use search properly, when even the most basic of quirks like fire throwing take years to master, as we can guess he just arrived. He creates new combos on the spot without really any care, and is superior in terms of skill to anyone we’ve seen in the series excluding AM and Final Act Deku (who is, just a monster.) Meaning he essentially bitch slaps people like Aizawa (who is one of the most skilled people in the verse, as he is able to throughly skill stomp all his students, including Deku and Todoroki, who can keep up with Stain, who skill stomps iida, who fought and surpassed mercenaries who have likely trained for decades).

If a single blast goes through and he knows she‘s weaker (he essentially has a 4x AP advantage, so it’s probably not hard to figure out) he’s going to dodge, and he loves keeping his distance unless your AM.

Oh yeah, the nearly 4x AP and Durability gap.

yeah this is a decisive win for AFO.

Vote counted.

Though keeping his distance isn't much an issue given she can get in close without much trouble.

Looking at the Ghost Physiology page:

Ghost Physiology (Danny Phantom)

vsbattles.fandom.com

"There are also half ghosts or halfas as the ghosts call them. Half ghosts are humans who have been exposed to a large amount of ectoplasm and survived. Their DNA is altered and they gain some the standard powers of a ghost while in human form and the ability to transform into a ghost."

This suggests ghost powers are tied to DNA, which may be the case, assuming Dani's process of being created through cloning works with DNA similarly to Half-Ghost DNA alteration.
If so, would this mean she's vulnerable to AFO's Quirk-related abilities? Like stealing her powers?

Plus, with what @Acer__ has said, Are we sure it isn't a Skill Stomp, then? (Not to mention the statistics gap.)

That's in human form, in ghost form she is just ectoplasm and consciousness. Also she can ignore durability so the gap isn't a big issue.

Possession would require her getting close enough to actually get into him, which is a hard task in speed equalized against a much higher skill opponent, & extremely dangerous if he can drain her powers on touch.
Plus, if she does possess him, what does she do? Have him punch himself in the face? She'd have to fight his own body control abilities; I doubt AFO would be unable to resist the body control of Possession, & if he can fight it, that means it costs her Stamina.

Plus, if AFO's Stamina IS high enough, body controlling him to punch himself to death doesn't seem viable if Dani will melt from using ghost powers too long.

All For One doesn't have the feats to counter Possession and his body control pales in comparison to ghosts as they can effect and change the body on a molecular level, and Danny scales to Danny who's possession has worked on people with resistance. Also, landing a possession with wouldn't be to hard even with skill, as the moment All For One swings she could literally move into the punch and overshadow him.

I can change it to season 3 Dani who is stable and more powerful than she is in season 2.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Her molecular structure is rearranged and infused with ectoplasm.

then yeah, he can probably yoink it, he can yoink some mutant quirks which rearrange dna

Not if her attacks are intangible before they come into direct contact with him, she's done this before.

Yeah, that’s what scatter and reflect require.

Vote counted.

Though keeping his distance isn't much an issue given she can get in close without much trouble.


That's in human form, in ghost form she is just ectoplasm and consciousness. Also she can ignore durability so the gap isn't a big issue.


All For One doesn't have the feats to counter Possession and his body control pales in comparison to ghosts as they can effect and change the body on a molecular level, and Danny scales to Danny who's possession has worked on people with resistance. Also, landing a possession with wouldn't be to hard even with skill, as the moment All For One swings she could literally move into the punch and overshadow him.

I can change it to season 3 Dani who is stable and more powerful than she is in season 2.

Yeah, but the only probably is will AFO let her? and also, we’ve seen how AFO’s mind control works (even if it isn’t labeled) his consciousness (well, his quirk but same deal) quite literally fights the opponent, it’d be the same way Shigaraki fought of his influence

 

[LordGriffin1000]

then yeah, he can probably yoink it, he can yoink some mutant quirks which rearrange dna

Yeah, that’s what scatter and reflect require.

Fair enough

Yeah, but the only probably is will AFO let her? and also, we’ve seen how AFO’s mind control works (even if it isn’t labeled) his consciousness (well, his quirk but same deal) quite literally fights the opponent, it’d be the same way Shigaraki fought of his influence

That's not how it works, Danny/Dani can effect people who have layered resistance on a mental/consciousness and biological (molecular level). There is no "if he let's her" if he's in mid swing as he can't stop himself before she phases into him, and her Possession is just above his shown resistance so if it lands, she has full control.