D&D Attack Potency Revision

[Mr. Bambu]

Hey all, figure this isn't a terribly controversial CRT to start things off with. Basically, this thread proposes to change all currently "High 8-C" D&D pages to "At least 8-B, possibly 8-A". Currently the pages scale to Freezing Sphere (here), but since the CRT lockdown I've personally discovered two higher-end feats to scale from- both of which are 6th level spells, meaning they scale to the current High 8-C profiles. They also don't involve heat so less of a problem when that comes up, I suppose.

The new feats are Lower/Raise Water (here) and the fact that the Disintegrate spell can destroy a Temple of the Gods (here). As I said, should be fairly uncontroversial. I can personally do the edits when this thread is completed.

Note: The 8-A is left at "possibly" due to the sheer fact that the temple itself is made to mimic stone but is in fact made of force- something that is undeniably stronger than stone but we can't estimate the properties of. The temple functions as if it were made of stone, it isn't actually, so the feat is likely higher though technically unquantifiable.

EDIT: Qawsed has pointed out that the 8-B calc is relatively inconsistent, and has changed between editions. So, in light of this, the new proposal is "At least High 8-C, likely 8-B, possibly 8-A".

 

[Overlord775]

agree

 

[Qawsedf234]

As a question I guess. For lower water are we using the BD&D version like the above or should we go with the AD&D/2e version with a stricter and more defined area?

Besides that I'm mostly with the Disintegrate spell tier.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

@Qawsedf234 Currently was just using the BD&D tier one, as I don't see how it's less defined. I don't see an issue with it, but for funsies I'll calc the lesser Lower Water spell.

For the other Lower Water...
Volume = 345600 ft^3 or 9786.30 m^3
Mass = 9786302 kg
Velocity = 7.315 m/s
KE = 2.618e8 Joules, Small Building level

Welp. If we use this, we'd either go back to "At least High 8-C, possibly 8-A" or "At least High 8-C, likely 8-B, possibly 8-A".

 

[Qawsedf234]

At least High 8-C, likely 8-B, possibly 8-A

I like this the most honestly.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Alright, fair enough. I can switch around the OP, I'm not opposed. @Overlord775 If you wouldn't mind, since you replied to the thread, does this still have your personal stamp of approval.

 

[Overlord775]

i don't quite understand why the BD&D version would take priority over the AD&D one

 

[Qawsedf234]

It wouldn't or at least debatably wouldn't, which is why I lean towards the three separate levels.

 

[Overlord775]

okay, then 3 levels

 

[Antvasima]

The new suggestion seems uncontroversial to apply, yes.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I plan on updating profiles that need this over the course of the day, as other CRTs are needed and this hasn't had responses in some time.

Will list all profiles that I've changed here.

• Mystra (Midnight)
• Hezrou
• Retriever
• Barbed Devil
• Galena Tordrick
• Modron (Multiple keys)
• Inevitable
• Artus Cimber
• Dragonbait
• Trienath Salazar
• The Nameless One (Multiple keys)

I shall continue putting through the revisions later, something's come up just now.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I can do some of them when I get home if you need it.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Up to you, restarting my work now, just finished a handful of renders for future pages. Next post shall be another list of updated pages.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

List Continued:

• Daren Timbide
• Ras Nsi
• Blagothkus
• Captain Othelstan
• Rath Modar
• Rezmir the Black
• Githyanki
• Mind Flayer (Multiple keys)
• Doppelganger (Dungeons and Dragons)
• Harpy (Dungeons and Dragons)
• Basilisk (Dungeons and Dragons)
• Behir
• Displacer Beast
• Frost Worm
• Gray Render
• Djinni (Dungeons and Dragons)
• Efreeti (Dungeons and Dragons)
• Dao
• Marid
• Leonal
• Lamia (Dungeons and Dragons)
• Devourer (Dungeons and Dragons)
• Eidolon (Dungeons and Dragons) (Multiple keys)
• Atropal

Aaaaand that's the list. Putting through revisions now.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Since this is finished, I'll be closing the thread.