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In the marvel comics currently, Carnage has the grendel symbiote attached to him and he has a cult, can manipulate people with his symbiote. Should we edit Carnage's profile to fit this new version?
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Grendel was never weak to sound to begin with. But yeah. Grendel should be the only symbiote to have High Regenerationn IMO (he did no-sell energy compared to a nuclear bomb with it).BloodStalker500 said:I think he's lost his weakness to heat with the Grendel symbiote merged with the classic Carnage symbiote in a recent issue (because why not, he's already lost his sound weakness), might be important to consider.
I was referring to Carnage - before ever interacting with the Grendel - trading his weakness to sound in exchange for one to Cthonic magic by the Darkhold (a magic that is exclusive to the Marvel multiverse, so irrelevant most of the time). Now, with the Grendel merged with the original Carnage symbiote, he's now apparently immune to heat as well since literal hell fire was laughed off like a joke (before, he barely kinda-sort-of survived re-entry). Stats-wise he should easily be > his "base" self from before.Migue79 said:Grendel was never weak to sound to begin with. But yeah. Grendel should be the only symbiote to have High Regenerationn IMO (he did no-sell energy compared to a nuclear bomb with it).BloodStalker500 said:I think he's lost his weakness to heat with the Grendel symbiote merged with the classic Carnage symbiote in a recent issue (because why not, he's already lost his sound weakness), might be important to consider.
The Grendel symbiote hasn't merged with the "classic" Carnage symbiote. Cletus's portion of his original symbiote died in Web of Venom: Carnage Bor.BloodStalker500 said:I think he's lost his weakness to heat with the Grendel symbiote merged with the classic Carnage symbiote in a recent issue (because why not, he's already lost his sound weakness), might be important to consider.
Considering the Darkhold is an expy of the Necronomicon and is even written in H.P. Lovecraft's eldritch language, it's easy to extrapolate he'd be vulnerable to Cthulhu Mythos magic in general.BloodStalker500 said:I was referring to Carnage - before ever interacting with the Grendel - trading his weakness to sound in exchange for one to Cthonic magic by the Darkhold (a magic that is exclusive to the Marvel multiverse, so irrelevant most of the time). Now, with the Grendel merged with the original Carnage symbiote, he's now apparently immune to heat as well since literal hell fire was laughed off like a joke (before, he barely kinda-sort-of survived re-entry). Stats-wise he should easily be > his "base" self from before.Migue79 said:Grendel was never weak to sound to begin with. But yeah. Grendel should be the only symbiote to have High Regenerationn IMO (he did no-sell energy compared to a nuclear bomb with it).BloodStalker500 said:I think he's lost his weakness to heat with the Grendel symbiote merged with the classic Carnage symbiote in a recent issue (because why not, he's already lost his sound weakness), might be important to consider.
Err... the image you linked to is of Anti-Venom, not Dark Carnage (what Marvel is calling Cletus + the Grendel symbiote).Migue79 said:I don't want to jump to the conclusion that he is immune to heat already (as the storyline is barely getting started and that there are anti-feats), but he's definitely [much more resistant to it]. So, we're on the same page that Carnage with the new symbiote is more powerful than with the Classic Carnage one.
Hmm... And considering the strength difference chain suggested by Marvel (Grendel > Toxin > Carnage > etc.), I think the tier for Carnage's new key should be close to borderline 7-C (unless Carnage's base is getting downgraded to 8-A as well, considering there has been the talk about downgrading Marvel Street level characters).
It got incinerated completely due to re-entry, right?Arawn 999 said:The Grendel symbiote hasn't merged with the "classic" Carnage symbiote. Cletus's portion of his original symbiote died in Web of Venom: Carnage Born.BloodStalker500 said:I think he's lost his weakness to heat with the Grendel symbiote merged with the classic Carnage symbiote in a recent issue (because why not, he's already lost his sound weakness), might be important to consider.