Could this be used to upscale a character's Lifting Strength to infinite?

[Sdjlakjh]

A character called Azure Lion was able to lift a giant staff that has been amped by MK's kick. And MK scales to Low Multiversal in terms of Attack Potency

 

[SeijiSetto]

no. stopping a strike from a 2-C character would just make you 2-C, we separate LS from AP in cases like this.
same reason why someone like Goku doesn't have Infinite or Immeasurable LS despite struggling with characters who are also 2-C.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

no. stopping a strike from a 2-C character would just make you 2-C, we separate LS from AP in cases like this.
same reason why someone like Goku doesn't have Infinite or Immeasurable LS despite struggling with characters who are also 2-C.

I mean Azure was legit lifting the entire staff and that staff weighting down was heavily amped by MK's kick

Look at the video yourself. Pretty sure if you are capable of lifting something up that's weighting down on you, counts as LS

 

[StrymULTRA]

You have to prove it has infinite weight other than infinite energy output.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

You have to prove it has infinite weight other than infinite energy output.

Why tho? In the video, the staff being weighted down was heavily amped by a literal kick from a character that has low multi AP. The output from MK's kick contributes to the staff weighting down on Azure Lion

 

[StrymULTRA]

Why tho? In the video, the staff being weighted down was heavily amped by a literal kick from a character that has low multi AP. The output from MK's kick contributes to the staff weighting down on Azure Lion

This doesn't mean the weight is infinite, heck the mountain being barely scratched is a proof.

But besides that, we don't generally turn AP from punches/kicks in LS (despite you can do that through applying the inverse formula for Work and then Force), due to this being able to be applied to like... 90% of fiction, which would lead to horrendeously inflated LS results which aren't supported.

We do neither allow calc stacking, nor get speed from AP through using inverse KE formula, so we shouldn't use this logic either.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

This doesn't mean the weight is infinite, heck the mountain being barely scratched is a proof.

But besides that, we don't generally turn AP from punches/kicks in LS (despite you can do that through applying the inverse formula for Work and then Force), due to this being able to be applied to like... 90% of fiction, which would lead to horrendeously inflated LS results which aren't supported.

We do neither allow calc stacking, nor get speed from AP through using inverse KE formula, so we shouldn't use this logic either.

Perhaps the mountain being barely scratched is a work of fiction? Like character's clothing not being harmed or destroyed despite tanking high AP attacks

I don't see the problem of applying the formula to other works of fiction as it's pretty logical but fine

 

[StrymULTRA]

Perhaps the mountain being barely scratched is a work of fiction?

My point.

We go by what the fiction suggests, rather than using irl math that isn't supported from it. There's a reason why we don't use for example the full extent of Platonic Forms or Many-Worlds Interpretation only because the fiction made vague mentions about it, unless it's sufficiently detailed on that, as that would mean the author had actual intent behind it.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

My point.

We go by what the fiction suggests, rather than using irl math that isn't supported from it. There's a reason why we don't use for example the full extent of Platonic Forms or Many-Worlds Interpretation only because the fiction made vague mentions about it, unless it's sufficiently detailed on that, as that would mean the author had actual intent behind it.

Don't we all scale fiction by irl math by default like for anything including pixel scaling. Unless you are trying to say every character who hasn't got their clothing or suit torn up would downscale their enemies AP like Saitama's gloves

Also Azure was still holding up the staff and had the ability to fly

 

[StrymULTRA]

Don't we all scale fiction by irl math by default like for anything including pixel scaling. Unless you are trying to say every character who hasn't got their clothing or suit torn up would downscale their enemies AP like Saitama's gloves

That's mostly mundane stuff which can't be explained otherwise, and we usually apply low ends for these anyways.

There's a difference between "yeah let's use KE for a character throwing this object in this specific scene" and "let's get LS over a character punching with this AP value that was gotten in a whole different scene".

 

[Sdjlakjh]

That's mostly mundane stuff which can't be explained otherwise, and we usually apply low ends for these anyways.

There's a difference between "yeah let's use KE for a character throwing this object in this specific scene" and "let's get LS over a character punching with this AP value that was gotten in a whole different scene".

Can't explained otherwise? Well through your logic, it would downscale a lot of fictional characters to below clothing level. Even if you apply this logic to Azure Lion, it won't work as he was still lifting up the staff and has the capability to fly

Those two aren't relevant tho? Azure was lifting up the staff that's weight has been amped forcing down on himself, a low multiversal amp

 

[StrymULTRA]

Can't explained otherwise? Well through your logic, it would downscale a lot of fictional characters to below clothing level. Even if you apply this logic to Azure Lion, it won't work as he was still lifting up the staff and has the capability to fly

I don't even need to explain why this is a false equivalence.

Those two aren't relevant tho? Azure was lifting up the staff that's weight has been amped forcing down on himself, a low multiversal amp

It is relevant, as it's no different than "this character blocked a punch from a planet level dude so he must have Class Z LS".

 

[Sdjlakjh]

I don't even need to explain why this is a false equivalence.

It is relevant, as it's no different than "this character blocked a punch from a planet level dude so he must have Class Z LS".

Elaborate so I can understand by what you input

Pretty sure that's highly a red herring. Considering Azure was lifting up the staff, not blocking

 

[StrymULTRA]

Considering Azure was lifting up the staff, not blocking

That'd be implying the thing literally is heavier than a whole 4D timeline, which is nonsensical for multiple reasons.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

That'd be implying the thing literally is heavier than a whole 4D timeline, which is nonsensical for multiple reasons.

Not the whole staff, only when MK amped it by kicking it downwards to Azure

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Just means the staff is 2-C in dura. Doesn't upscale to Immeasurable