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Introduction to this Thread, the cosmology split for DC comics It's accepted so I created this Thread to explain All the Realms that exist in Comic Vertigo and also the Realms that are not added in the Sandbox so check it carefully
The Presence Creation's/Universes
Universes refers to all of Creation, evidenced by Desire's statement about the afterlife, eternity, and reality as he sees it, will be done
according to Desire's statement (Sandman Overture)
according to Mister's E statement that there is a very infinite number of timelines of all time(The Books of Magic Vol 1 #4 1991)
Lifeweb
The Lifeweb is Spanning to encompass the entire space, time and then stretches even higher. The Lifeweb treats higher dimensions as just an image reflected from a mirror sitting in the timeless sea. The Lifeweb also continues to stretch beyond this level to infinity.
I RECOGNIZE MYSELF IN MIRRORS REFLECTING HIGHER DIMENSIONS.(Animal man Issue 80)
stretching all the way into infinity
(Animal man Issue 80)
The World Soul
Conceptually encompassing the entire Lifeweb as the big idea and the whole amongst wholes is the World Soul,
the World Soul conceptually encompasses Lifeweb as the big idea and transcends it simultaneously as the whole amongst wholes in the mind and body of God.
is the big idea of the whole universe. (Animal Man #86)
It is the whole amongst wholes in the mind and body of god (Animal Man #88)
Is a higher level of consciousness formed from the swarm of ideas spurred from the imagination.
Heaven, Silver City and Hell
Silver city precedes and transcends Creation and is looked down upon as a Shadow that sits in the waters, holds the Tall Endless Tower containing the Logos, and is the birthplace of Will and contemplation. It is explicitly stated that Silver City is not part of the created order,
STARED DOWN INTO THE IMMENSITY OF CREATION,
Lucifer's rebellion occurred in the "darkness before the first dawn" and his fall occurred at the Dawn of Time
Hell is the opposite of Heaven, and is its reflection. Hell is Heaven's dark reflection, and asking its size is meaningless
The Basanos was a living deck of tarot cards created by the angel Meleos after Destiny allowed him to examine his book
They are the lenses through which all infinite possibilities of Creation are focused.(Lucifer #25)
The Basanos has the same workmanship and affinities as the Book of Destiny the Basanos are meant to mimic Destiny's book and the lenses through which all infinite possibilities of Creation are focused. (Lucifer #2)
Mother Night and Father Time
Night and Time are the parents of Endless, and it is their interplay that made all versions of the Universe possible.
Before the beginning there was endless and boundless Night. In the beginning there was Time. When they came together all versions of the universe (Sandman: Overture #4)
Mother Night exists in the vast stretches of unspace and untime beyond every event horizon (Sandman: Overture #4)
"It is a matter of perception. There is no time here. And no space. So all things are layered on themselves endlessly and perception twists around its own axis until its blinded by fullness, crippled by infinite repetition (Lucifer #75)
One and one are not two, if one and one cannot meet." The Void is infinite and eternal and no matter how large Creations you fill it with, they will never take up any room (Lucifer #75)
the Void are basically just versions of the same Creation as time has no real meaning in the Void, they all exist simultaneously, as seen when Lucifer flew into the Void with different versions of himself. (Lucifer #75)
Note:Why are the presence and several characters not included because this has nothing to do with any of these cosmology, so I apologize
Conclusion Tiers:
The Presence Creation's/Universes:2-A because there is an infinite timeline
Lifeweb:High 1-B Possibility Low 1-A
The Lifeweb treats higher dimensions as just an image reflected from a mirror sitting in the timeless sea. The Lifeweb also continues to stretch beyond thisl
Level to infinity.
The World Soul:Low 1-A Conceptually encompassing the entire Lifeweb as the big idea and the whole amongst wholes is the World Soul,the World Soul conceptually encompasses Lifeweb as the big idea and transcends to Lifeweb
Heaven, Silver City and Hell:1-A The city of silver precedes and transcends Creation (Including Lifeweb and The World Soul) and is looked down upon as the Shadow that sits on the waters, holds the Highest Endless Tower containing the Logos, and is the birthplace of Will and contemplation.
The Basanos:1-A+ was a living deck of tarot cards created by the angel Meleos after Destiny allowed him to examine his book They are the lenses through which all infinite possibilities of Creation are focused
Mother Night and Father Time:High 1-A Mother's Night and Father's Time must transcend all Creations and Their Makers Including The Basanos
The Void:High 1-A Possibly 0 as it's beyond space-time and the hierarchy of dimensions and transcends it completely.
The Presence Creation's/Universes
Universes refers to all of Creation, evidenced by Desire's statement about the afterlife, eternity, and reality as he sees it, will be done
according to Desire's statement (Sandman Overture)
according to Mister's E statement that there is a very infinite number of timelines of all time(The Books of Magic Vol 1 #4 1991)
Lifeweb
The Lifeweb is Spanning to encompass the entire space, time and then stretches even higher. The Lifeweb treats higher dimensions as just an image reflected from a mirror sitting in the timeless sea. The Lifeweb also continues to stretch beyond this level to infinity.
I RECOGNIZE MYSELF IN MIRRORS REFLECTING HIGHER DIMENSIONS.(Animal man Issue 80)
stretching all the way into infinity
(Animal man Issue 80)
The World Soul
Conceptually encompassing the entire Lifeweb as the big idea and the whole amongst wholes is the World Soul,
the World Soul conceptually encompasses Lifeweb as the big idea and transcends it simultaneously as the whole amongst wholes in the mind and body of God.
is the big idea of the whole universe. (Animal Man #86)
It is the whole amongst wholes in the mind and body of god (Animal Man #88)
Is a higher level of consciousness formed from the swarm of ideas spurred from the imagination.
Heaven, Silver City and Hell
Silver city precedes and transcends Creation and is looked down upon as a Shadow that sits in the waters, holds the Tall Endless Tower containing the Logos, and is the birthplace of Will and contemplation. It is explicitly stated that Silver City is not part of the created order,
STARED DOWN INTO THE IMMENSITY OF CREATION,
Lucifer's rebellion occurred in the "darkness before the first dawn" and his fall occurred at the Dawn of Time
Hell is the opposite of Heaven, and is its reflection. Hell is Heaven's dark reflection, and asking its size is meaningless
The Basanos
The Basanos was a living deck of tarot cards created by the angel Meleos after Destiny allowed him to examine his book
They are the lenses through which all infinite possibilities of Creation are focused.(Lucifer #25)
The Basanos has the same workmanship and affinities as the Book of Destiny the Basanos are meant to mimic Destiny's book and the lenses through which all infinite possibilities of Creation are focused. (Lucifer #2)
Mother Night and Father Time
Night and Time are the parents of Endless, and it is their interplay that made all versions of the Universe possible.
Before the beginning there was endless and boundless Night. In the beginning there was Time. When they came together all versions of the universe (Sandman: Overture #4)
Mother Night exists in the vast stretches of unspace and untime beyond every event horizon (Sandman: Overture #4)
The Void
The Void is the endless, beginningless expanse of nothingness from which Creations rise and fall."It is a matter of perception. There is no time here. And no space. So all things are layered on themselves endlessly and perception twists around its own axis until its blinded by fullness, crippled by infinite repetition (Lucifer #75)
One and one are not two, if one and one cannot meet." The Void is infinite and eternal and no matter how large Creations you fill it with, they will never take up any room (Lucifer #75)
the Void are basically just versions of the same Creation as time has no real meaning in the Void, they all exist simultaneously, as seen when Lucifer flew into the Void with different versions of himself. (Lucifer #75)
Note:Why are the presence and several characters not included because this has nothing to do with any of these cosmology, so I apologize
Conclusion Tiers:
The Presence Creation's/Universes:2-A because there is an infinite timeline
Lifeweb:High 1-B Possibility Low 1-A
The Lifeweb treats higher dimensions as just an image reflected from a mirror sitting in the timeless sea. The Lifeweb also continues to stretch beyond thisl
Level to infinity.
The World Soul:Low 1-A Conceptually encompassing the entire Lifeweb as the big idea and the whole amongst wholes is the World Soul,the World Soul conceptually encompasses Lifeweb as the big idea and transcends to Lifeweb
Heaven, Silver City and Hell:1-A The city of silver precedes and transcends Creation (Including Lifeweb and The World Soul) and is looked down upon as the Shadow that sits on the waters, holds the Highest Endless Tower containing the Logos, and is the birthplace of Will and contemplation.
The Basanos:1-A+ was a living deck of tarot cards created by the angel Meleos after Destiny allowed him to examine his book They are the lenses through which all infinite possibilities of Creation are focused
Mother Night and Father Time:High 1-A Mother's Night and Father's Time must transcend all Creations and Their Makers Including The Basanos
The Void:High 1-A Possibly 0 as it's beyond space-time and the hierarchy of dimensions and transcends it completely.
