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Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?
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Low 1-C looks good.
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By extension, yeah
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Georredannea15
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Btw it's seems type 1
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Here it is stated that nature is only a greater will that weaves the fabric of reality, it talks about a duality like coldness and warmth based on the above statement and doesn't go any further into the issue of dualities. In short, there is almost no mention of nature and "dualities", only the coldness and warmth coexist. That's all.
I have not seen any statement here that emphasizes "all dualities" in the nature or reality(whatever)
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Coldness and warmth aren't the only dualities that exist tho? It is just giving an example of the dualities that exist in the verse which is just a supporting statement. I think you overlooked this:
But if Coldness and warmth were the only dualities that existed then it would have created all the other dualities that fuels the world
If you look at characters with ND 1, they either have 1 or 2 dualities with them but this verse includes everything that makes up the world, not just coldness and warmth
There are verses with ND 2 that didn't have a statement that emphasizes "all dualities" in the nature of reality but it was still accepted
i don't think it has to be that strict
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Why do you come to such a conclusion based on your own interpretation? I have only mentioned the only part of the statement that emphasizes "dualism" in a tangible, concrete way. Other than that, I don't see that it touches on the issue of duality
It does not emphasize all dualities, it gives examples and statements that reality in the verse contains all dualities, and if character X beyond/transcends and indepented to this plane of reality, it qualifies for type 2.
And also, different verses, different contexts...
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what is the consensus on this mini-debate, by the way? is the nonduality type 2 or does it remain the same? might need to edit the OP
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I agree
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if only the staff are seeing this...
also, bump on this ...
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Agree. It seems fine to me
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As of now, the arguments for Low 1-C are that the World of Dreams exists in another plane of existence that cannot be perceived from the Multiverse and is unreachable to it. In the World of Dreams, there exists an endless number of dreams that are infinite in size, each singular dream parallel to the cosmology in size. Everything else is some ability additions for Cookies, the end part of the thread mentions the Nature of Existence, which is a dream within the world of dreams which explains how reality is rendered as a game and the plot is created. The characters within it gain R>F. However, I disagree with them being above everyone in Cookie Run, since the Nature of Existence is a product of Moonlight Cookies Magic.Can somebody write an easy to understand summary explanation of the arguments here, and inform us about what the staff conclusions here are so far, including a tally for their views here?
Currently, It needs one more staff vote to be applied. 2 Staff members agreed on this thread 8 agree, 0 Neutrals, and 0 disagree.
Based on my perspective, everything should be applied. Just a removal of Non-Duality from Type 2 to Type 1, and making the entities in the Nature of Existence inferior to the top tiers in the verse. Everything else is fine.
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@Antvasima I think the Cookie Run Cosmology blog might need an update. There are many, many issues with it.
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Yeah, pretty much .
As for the Nature of Existence, the characters in it scaling to Low 1-C via Data Manipulation was basically a "possibly" sort of thing, since there's no de facto evidence that they exist outside of the Cookie Run world the way The Player has constantly been described to be across OvenBreak and Kingdom via character dialogue and such. Glass Half Full and Car?rot? wouldn't even get pages because they're so unremarkably minor nothing characters that just scale really high off their own statements.
The Nature of Existence being a spawn of Moonlight Cookie is weird, though, because that would make every Cookie that matters scale to Low 1-C because Moonlight is... fodder compared to DEC narratively. Compared to the rest of the dreams that can be accessed in that area, which are much more tame in comparison to the NoE in what they imply for the World of Dreams and the cosmology as a whole
Legendary Cookies getting Nonduality type 1 is also fine it looks like; the scans for the WoD being unreachable by the TBD is 404'd so IDK if there's still an argument to be made for it
It is very old, made back when Twizzly Gummy Cookie was the newest Cookie in CRK and was never updated after, with everyone cross-scaling to DEC, The Five or GingerBrave somehow. The whole verse is severely outdated as a result, as the most up-to-date profile was last given a content addition two years ago
I'd be willing to update it, but I'd need to comb through a lot of CRK cutscenes considering one about a dream world dropped Low 1-C on us, and to my knowledge a few OvenBreak stories have also gone cosmic as well
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The World of Dreams is unreachable to the TBD which administrates time across the Cookie Run Multiverse, I think it makes sense for the World of Dreams to be above the Multiverse, as it exists in a different plane of existence which cannot be perceived from the Multiverse. Scans for the TBD being unreachable can be found here.
Also, they would be Low 1-C, as Moonlight Cookie embodies the World of Dreams, including dreams like the Nature of Existence. She also powers the realm, thus making the entities within the World of Dreams a product of her Magic, The Nature of Existence as a whole.
IMO, Cookie Run being Low 1-C makes sense. Also, this could grant Moonlight Cookie omnipresence, since she embodies the World of Dreams, including the Nature of Existence which is a reality existing everywhere and nowhere.
FYI, With the new Realm of Apathy update, there are many new abilities to add onto Cookies as well as new characters such as Mystic Flour Cookie.
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@Antvasima can this be applied if u agree?
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2nd image mostly just implies that Baguette Cookie doesn't have the authority or proper clearance to see the records of Moonlight's dreams despite wanting to, implying they do have data of Moonlight Cookie and the WoD somewhere but she just can't access them; either because they're Timekeeper-only knowledge or some other reason. That's just what it looks like to me anyways
3rd image implies there are areas in the verse unaffected by the flow of time and gravity, not necessarily that the TBD can't see them
I suppose everyone would be Low 1-C for scaling to Moonlight for this, since she isn't really portrayed as all that powerful aside from the dream shenanigans she's got going on. Moonlight having Omnipresence also makes sense for this reason, I'll add this to the OP later
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The 1st scan does imply time being null within dreams, and Stardust Cookie in the 3rd scan was in reference to the World of Dreams, I'm gonna remain neutral on the Baguette Cookie scan as we don't have enough evidence to make a full conclusion on one statement, but I'm sure it's enough evidence to determine it's above the Multiverse.
Also, something notable is that there are dreams within a dream that continuously layer, as can be seen here. This can likely go on infinitely. However, I'm not sure where this would scale. (Edit: The dream within dreams can be a matter for another thread.)
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Sugar Swan would also be Omnipresent since shes described as the Nature of All things, as well as the essence and order of the world, I'll get scans for that tomorrow.
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@Ailamiona Should i get some staff to review this?
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Regular users can't ping other people for some reason, but I was following the thread so I still got the notification. If you want to get someone's attention on a thread, send them something on their message wall
Go ahead. I've already sent a bunch of requests to a lot of staff and have either been ghosted or rejected, though, so don't get your hopes up. I am still waiting on Bambu since he said he'd get to it but I am assuming he totally forgot about it or doesn't care anymore
Go ahead. I've already sent a bunch of requests to a lot of staff and have either been ghosted or rejected, though, so don't get your hopes up. I am still waiting on Bambu since he said he'd get to it but I am assuming he totally forgot about it or doesn't care anymore
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Ant is fast at responding, i'll get to him rq
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3 staff agreements are probably needed for a Tier 1 upgrade
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im pretty sure we have 2 already, just 1 more..
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@Ailamiona how many staff agreements do we need and how much do we have right now?
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there is only 1 staff agreement at the moment
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Ok, so the Multiverse is 2-B, and the World of Dreams contains it, seeing it as a story/game?
