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Continuation Steven Universe Revision

@Antonio It resolves all of the issues with the scaling. Warhip Durability > Opal > Garnet = Jasper > Warship's AP > Amethyst and Pearl and the 95% of the Gem population that would be oneshot by the warship
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Antonio It resolves all of the issues with the scaling. Warhip Durability > Opal > Garnet = Jasper > Warship's AP > Amethyst and Pearl and the 95% of the Gem population that would be oneshot by the warship
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This is actually irrelevant for the thread, we aren't evaluating anything above gems like Garnet, what we known is that Red Eye's durability >> Garnet > Amethyst, and Red Eye has like High 6-C durability.

Also, about Low 6-B Amethyst I guess it comes from M-E convertion that is also being questioned here. And where does that number comes from, a woman of Amethyst's size would yield like 6-C, not Low 6-B
 
@Antonio Again no, the Red Eye feat is PIS unnless you want to argue that Alexandrite is below the Red Eye because they didnt try to use her to beat it

Amethyst's feat comes from her turning into a monster the size of a movie theater
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Antonio Again no, the Red Eye feat is PIS unnless you want to argue that Alexandrite is below the Red Eye because they didnt try to use her to beat it
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Alexandrite (or any fusion for that matter) wasn't mentioned at any point in his argument, and he even said "we aren't evaluating anything above gems like Garnet".
 
@Paulo Any Gem being below the Red Eye is PIS or an outlier when they have multiple feats above it

Also just want to point out that the Red Eye was actually calced at one point to be 6-B+ bordering High 6-B but it was recalced by a member who was notorious for trying to make results as low as possible
 
Because by your logic, them saying that the Light Cannon is the only thing that can stop the Red Eye makes the Light Cannon stronger than any of their fusions including Alexandrite, which is wrong as even Amethyst has feats above the current calc for the Red Eye
 
Once again, calculating several time M-E convertion do not counts as several feats, the only feats that were High 6-C were already debunked in the previous thread, including the sun's core and warship ones.
 
Going by feats, Garnet is above the current Red Eye, Amethyst is above the current Red Eye, and Pearl is above the current Red Eye
 
@Antonio No one has debunked the core feats, yall just keep saying 'nah youre wrong' without giving an actual argument
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Ok, and what does Alex have to do with anything we're talking about?
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because by the logic you guys are using she's inferior to the Red Eye

Look at the calc i posted
 
Nobody is saying Alexandrite or other fusions are weaker than the eye, he is saying Garnet and other base form Gems are weaker, nobody mentioned fusions at any point and it was even straight up said that "we aren't evaluating anything above gems like Garnet"; there's really no reason to even mention Alexandrite.
 
Garnet and the others arent weaker as they have feats that prove otherwise

Its amazing how much im being ignored here, truly astounding
 
So why did you mention Alexandrite (who has nothing to do with anything we're talking about) instead of just mentioning those feats from the start? Seriously, Alex has nothing to do with this.
 
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Youre not serious right now are you? Have you just been ignoring every comment i made in this thread?
 
Using outdated calc from over three years old? Also, you may not notice, but rejecting this calculatio means you're rejecting the work the calculation members such Darkanine, Kepekley and me with no more reasons than spite.
 
@Paulo Youre legitimately giving me a headache with how little youre listening to me

I dont care that youre only looking at Garnet Amethyst and Pearl right now. The point is that by the logic you guys are using, the logic that in that episode the only thing that could beat the Red Eye is the Light Cannon, this makes the Light Cannon superior to EVERYTHING in the show other than the god damn Diamonds. Everything. The logic you guys are using makes zero sense when put into context and it falls apart completely the second you stop looking at one small part and actually look at the whole picture. Them being inferior to the Light Cannon/Red Eye is not only nonsensical by a logical standpoint but by a plot standpoint. Pearl knew where Rose's armory was and where the Quartezine Trio were but she also acted like she had no idea where a single Light Cannon was. Its PIS
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Antonio Thats not the one we use, we use xcano's recalc
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Then use the result from that blog since the other bother you so much; o wait... you do not want that, aren't ya? you just want to use the calc with the higher result.

The reason why it was recalculated (by the way, you made the request) was because there was a more accurate instance to calculate the size of the Red Eye, and so it was used.
 
The logic we're using is that Garnet and Amethyst were attacking the eye during the entire episode and couldn't destroy it, this has nothing to do with the other fusions.
 
Them being inferior to the Light Cannon/Red Eye is not only nonsensical by a logical standpoint but by a plot standpoint. Pearl knew where Rose's armory was and where the Quartezine Trio were but she also acted like she had no idea where a single Light Cannon was. Its PIS
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Paulo And that logic is wrong as feat-wise both Garnet and Amethyst are superior to the Red Eye
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Ok, but that's not what I'm asking; I'm asking how Alexandrite got in the middle of this.
 
Oh my god

Just drop Alexandrite already i already explained this like 5 times seriously we're just going in circles seriously
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
I don't see the motivation behind pushing for all these downgrades. I get the impression that the OP thinks that Steven Universe is wall level or smth.
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It wasn't my intention to make it look that way, but few calcs were unusable and the profile need to be updated. Also, not sure is the wall level idea is coming from, I never ignored inferior feats.
 
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