Colossatron vs The Lich

[Yobo_Blue]

Been a while since I've used snake boi

Colossatro vs The Lich (Enter the Gungeon)

Colossatron is 8-B, as well as The Lich

SBA

Speed Equal

Who wins?

The Lich: 1 (Mr. Bambu)

Colossatron:

Inconclusive:

 

[Mr. Bambu]

8-C?

Anyhoo. How does Colossatron manage to bypass timehaxgg?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Variable tier

How does it work again?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Okay. So we don't know his AP. That is... a huge issue.

When Lich is incapped in such a way that it goes against Kaliber's will, time is rewound to the first time the enemy entered the Gungeon.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So in what way do you have to incap him?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

It only works if it's painful.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

How painful?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I've listed a few off before. Freezing is good, assuming there's a good reason he can't break out of it. Pain Manip would also be an excellent choice.

Essentially anything that allows Kaliber to keep him under her thumb... forever. Controlling Lich, memory wiping, killing, etc is no go. The exception is the rare instance where the killing erased him from the past, too, so there was nothing to rewind to, so to speak. That was his match vs Medaka Box.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Freezing is a option, but I don't know if Colossatron has the intellect for that.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

In that case I vote Lich via just spraying and praying him into the ground.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Colossatron has a potential win condition that is unlikely due to intelligence. Meanwhile, Lich can just fire Danmaku until the snek is dead.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Colossatron also has his own Type 6 mind you, as well as those passive force fields and possibly 6-B self destruction if things go wrong.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

1. This thing is assumed to be 8-B here. He doesn't have 6-B self destruct methinks.

2. Eh. I'll bite. How does the Type 6 work? Forcefields aren't going to blot out hundreds of 8-B rounds but still.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

They kind of block out entire armies of people with upgraded weaponry and things enough to harm him for a good while.

When he dies, he explodes and ends up with a new body that flies back to where he was.

6-B self destruction at best, but it requires some charge up and weakens him on return.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

How fast can he fly back?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Prett quick. It's not going to get him sba'd

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Even if the Gungeon where Lich BFRs enemies to is on another planet?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I don't know then. Do we assume they start in the Gungeon?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yep. Integral part of Lich's character is Kaliber and the fact that he is unable to actually leave the Gungeon due to Sealing.

If not, then... Lich does have BFR to bring enemies into it.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Well, it could be, but we never see how long it takes so, it's either inconclusive or Lich victory

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I mean

Assuming speed is equalized, let's say he scales to Lich's speed.

He'd still definitely not reach a "distant planet" with SBA as it is.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think it was agreed "Speed Equal" is ignore starting speed, but I guess that counts.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

True, but still

Distant planets are distant planets.