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Cloud Vs Vegito
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^Janemba had tools to counter much of Clouds arsenal, and I can only think of one that Vegito has, namely, keeping his consciousness as a piece of candy. From that I can infer, he would be one strong frog, so there is one method for cloud gone.
That being said, assuming he has master materia, I am giving it to Cloud for both rounds. The amount of versatility that comes with that magic gives him a lot to work with. Vegito's one advantage may be speed, but haste/slow should counter that. Look forward to more input.
That being said, assuming he has master materia, I am giving it to Cloud for both rounds. The amount of versatility that comes with that magic gives him a lot to work with. Vegito's one advantage may be speed, but haste/slow should counter that. Look forward to more input.
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PostmodernD really encompassed what I was going to say. I say Vegito gets Omnislashed. Heck. Even as a frog, he'd be an easier target. Although he'd be a target with the same strength.
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Cloud destroys via vastly higher AP and Dura.
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Yes he does. Vegito is in the hundreds to low thousands of foe via power scaling to Cell. Cloud is in the Megafoe.aLTB2000 said:
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No he isn't. He's only in the low end. Solar System Level is a huge territory. To be stronger than Cloud, Vegito would have to be 133,928x stronger than SPC.LTB2000 said:
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I'm going to use generous scaling to disprove youLTB2000 said:
Majin Vegeta should be around Cell's level, who is 22.4 Foe. We'll assume he's 30 Foe for this
Multiply that by 4 (SSJ3 Goku) and you get 120.
Multiply that by 8 (SSJ3 Gotenks) and you get 960
Multiply that by 2 (Buuhan is around that powerful) and you get 1,920
Multiply that by 2 (being generous to Base Vegito) and you get 3,840
Multiply that by 400 (assuming Vegito can go SSJ3 for the sake of hypotheticals) and he has 1,536,000 Foe
Cloud is 2X Stronger than Vegito is at his hypothetical best.
I vote Cloud in a stomp.
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Basic scaling. WHat you brought up. Cell is accepted at baseline SS Level which is 22.4 Foe.LTB2000 said:
How does he blitz? He's way weaker, way less durable, and Cloud can kill him in one blow.
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How much faster is Vegito than Cloud? Like, in multiplication. If it's two or less, then BtB is right and Cloud has the AP advantage. Because we don't use multipliers, it's much, much, much lower than that. This is Goku vs Wonder Woman again, but Goku's on the other side of it this time.
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Cloud is 51c. Assuming Vegito is baseline MFTL makes him only 100c.
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Less than 2X so. Doesn't matter when he can't hurt Cloud in any way while Cloud can obliterate him in one hit.LTB2000 said:
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NLF. Vegito has never used it to pierce someone comparable to himself in power, much less far superior.LTB2000 said:
Cloud can touch him. The speed difference isn't that huge with 51c vs possibly 100c
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Yes, but that isn't enough for an outright blitz.LTB2000 said:
Cloud's sword tanks hits from Sephiroth so Vegito's attacks aren't doing shit to it.
You act as if Cloud will lose H2H. He won't. Cloud is logically stronger by several orders of magnitude and is a capable h2h combatant in his own right. Vegito will get pummeled if he tries to fight H2H.
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Cloud is not going to be disarmed. He keeps a very firm handle on his sword and his vastly greater strength means Vegito is not going to disarm him.LTB2000 said:
Doesn't matter when he can't hurt Cloud.
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The odds of that happening are low since nor Goku or Vegeta, nor anybody in DBZ has ever used the solar flare in any effective combo.LTB2000 said:
And cloud's going to dominate H2H due to him being many times stronger. You're going in circles.
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Solar Flare wasn't used in any viable combo like disarming or kienzan.LTB2000 said:
Cloud isn't better in H2H than Swordplay, but he's competent in his own right and the power difference between Cloud and Vegito outweighs Vegito's skill advantage.
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Considering Cloud had military training, and then some, the h2h argument is moot. Both have enough experience to render an advantage in it useless.
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Bump
Votes on Cloud mid-low diff.
Votes on Cloud mid-low diff.
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Doesn't matter, the gap in power is too big.PaChi2 said:
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aight.
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