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Well yes but nevertheless.KLOL506 said:
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CJ vs Violet Evergarden
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Vio fra, military traning would certainly place her skill above CJ's especially if he just beats up cops and gang members.
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"ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS BEAT UP THE DAMN LOLI, CJ!!!!" FRA
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He doesn't just beat up cops and gang members. He can crush FBI members and even fully armored soldiers with helicopters on his own. When he's at 6 stars damn tanks start to attack him.
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The Prince of Counters said:
- Says CJ only fought Gang members and Cops.
- Completely forgets the fact he infiltrated and killed US military trained soliders.
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doesnt CJ have 10 votes now? from what i counted
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In what branch of the military did he infiltrate? How long were said soldiers trained for? Have they seen comabt? How many tours have they been on? What branch of the military do they belong do? You telling me such things seems extremely vague. That's not very impressive depending on the previous questions and how he killed them. Also FBI members aren't anything special, essentially the FBI are just glorified cops, hell they literally walk around with "FBI" on their clothes. Cops aren't anything note worthy, they barely have any traning at least in comparison to those in the military. Also tanks isn't a skill feat, that's more along the lines of something AP based. Unless this dude kills SEALs and Marines with nothing but his bare hands then your definitely overhyping his skill.
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CJ has only fought soldiers once on the aircraft carrier.
Those are navy officers, not soldiers.
Those are navy officers, not soldiers.
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Oh yeah, Still CJ has took on these people in rather complex fasions and should be well trained anyways, I forgot to mention he also took on a horde of the LSPD and can dent the swats armored cars physically at on point.Schnee One said:
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Violet butchered multiple soldiers as a kid but she did it mainly by sneaking to them. Welp, see here, she got some good combat skills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-OSxl-eUAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-OSxl-eUAo
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Yeah, Though despite this I remember CJ doing some complex manuvers also at some points of the game he still fought similiar odds...But in a different fashion then hers but indeed she's good.SpookyShadow said:
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Black Project and Green Goo.Schnee One said:
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The most damning thing for the skill difference, I think, is that Violet as she is now still fodderizes actually trained soldiers. These weren't just trained, the war had finished months if barely a year ago by this point in time, so unless they were fresh recruits or posted at really peaceful places, these were people with experience.
Violet stills falls from a parachute, unarmed, closes the distance without a shot landing on her and neutralizes most of the dudes without them being able to offer much resistance and without killing them, which is way harder than actually killing them, and she does this with seemingly little effort.
Violet stills falls from a parachute, unarmed, closes the distance without a shot landing on her and neutralizes most of the dudes without them being able to offer much resistance and without killing them, which is way harder than actually killing them, and she does this with seemingly little effort.
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Sooooo, How is the voting? thinking about voting Violet rn...
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No clue, there were some changing votes and new votes. Would need to make a count.
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can you Make a TL;DR for why would Violet win against CJ?LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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Actually thinking about it now, Violet kinda takes this. Retracting my vote and changing it to Violet
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- Better skill feats.
- Knowledge in locks and knock outs, so Dura isn't a big issue.
- Way higher lifting strength, so CJ ain't breaking out if he gets caught.
- Close to Baseline AP, so skill difference aside, he isn't killing her in one or two blows if he manages to get the hit in.
- Knowledge in locks and knock outs, so Dura isn't a big issue.
- Way higher lifting strength, so CJ ain't breaking out if he gets caught.
- Close to Baseline AP, so skill difference aside, he isn't killing her in one or two blows if he manages to get the hit in.
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Yep, Changing to violet FRALSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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What's the current vote?
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Small correction, weapons obviously give a boost, but I don't beleiev there's reason to believe it would put CJ close at all to 1 shooting distance. Could be wrong though.
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tbh, CJ's advantage is overall AP. Skillwise, he's kinda toast.
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Looking back at this, would it be better to put Violet against Niko? He's like Carl but far more skilled and doesn't have 9-A dura
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Also any of the soldiers CJ killed are complete jokes compared to Niko
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I actually don't see it ending any differently, personally. But would be closer.
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Niko is just like Violet a child soldier (who served in one of the most bloody wars in history, Bosnian War, and in Yugoslav Wars) but he has even further fighting experiences
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Here's his respect thread, and few more feats on his profile
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Niko fought as a Teenage Soldier. Violet killed people when she was 10.
we see Niko can deal with multiple opponents... as an adult that has already fought in a war and has had training. Violet killed a contingent of trained soldiers without them being able to offer any resistance, while she was unarmed with 10 years of age.
This is before she's actually trained in the military as an official soldier and then sent to war where she became infamous due to the ease with which she shredded though enemy soldiers, this all while the oldest she could have been by the War's end was 14 years old.
Their situations seem similar, but really aren't upon closer look.
we see Niko can deal with multiple opponents... as an adult that has already fought in a war and has had training. Violet killed a contingent of trained soldiers without them being able to offer any resistance, while she was unarmed with 10 years of age.
This is before she's actually trained in the military as an official soldier and then sent to war where she became infamous due to the ease with which she shredded though enemy soldiers, this all while the oldest she could have been by the War's end was 14 years old.
Their situations seem similar, but really aren't upon closer look.
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Age doesn't matter if she doesn't have better feats, Niko was like, almost 12/13 years old when he was a child soldier for probably decade, and he survived the war still, though it was most bloody conflict in Europe since WW2. And has better feats as an adult. We can see what he learned as teenager that he uses as an adult.
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I really have seen nothing better for him though, which is the entire point. Multiple opponents, Violet has done it. Using weapons right away, she has done it. Battling since young, she has done it. Nothing at all.
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Don't ignore his other feats, many others on his RT are skill-based
Wasn't Violet mainly all about sneaking? I remember that from anime. She was really small and undetectable by soldiers and she killed them when they weren't aware of her presence, Niko can kill numerous armed guys that are fully aware of his presence and make them look like a complete joke
Wasn't Violet mainly all about sneaking? I remember that from anime. She was really small and undetectable by soldiers and she killed them when they weren't aware of her presence, Niko can kill numerous armed guys that are fully aware of his presence and make them look like a complete joke
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Actually doesn't Niko just kinda slap violet with his AP? He's 8.8 MJ
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Both are 9-B, but he has better physical strength feats
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Yes but Niko is 8.8 MJ
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