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Cinder vs Hound
- Thread starter Legion350
- Start date
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Alright. Let's see... Both are Small Building level, that much is obvious, but... any clue as to who would have the overall AP advantage here? At any rate, Cinder cetainly has the speed advantage overall, though Hound does have better reactions than Cinder does. Despite this, he wouldn't actually be able to do much anyways in regards to speed, unless Cinder got close enough anyways. The flight may also grant Cinder a nice advantage to an extent. The sleep manipulation possessed by Cinder is rendered irrelevant due to Hound being more or less immune to it unless it's really broken (In other words, unless it can bypass his inability to sleep, it won't work). The telekinesis however does give Cinder another advantage. While resistant to lower level TK, Hound seems to be light enough for CInder's level of TK. Cinder also has a good advantage when it comes to range, but here's the issue with that. Hound is resistant to lower level magic, which would include magic on par with his own stats. Considering the fire manipulation is defined as magic in the weaknesses section, I'd assume that gives Hound a nice advantage over that ability. Hound has the stamina advantage due to being incapable of tiring out. Hound also has the intelligence advantage but that boils down to them being equal intelligence wise in a combat scenario due to his nature in combat.
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His magic resistance ensures that any spells that are completely equal to him or below him in statistics will not work at all. If Cinder has the AP advantage however, that point is rendered entirely irrelevant.
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Well, actually. To an extent Hound can ignore slightly more powerful spells, but if it's a really good AP advantage then Hound can't ignore it. He has shown the ability to resist to far higher god-tier spells, but unlike Ham, that does not include those of offensive natures.
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Alright. Giants are casually able to destroy stone pillars and small buildings. Hound is far stronger than a normal giant by a notable margin. He can enter a berserk state which boosts him by more than tenfold his power (though how much more is not entirely figured out yet by me, so let's say it's not that huge beyond tenfold) if he gets sufficently enraged, and his axe is more powerful than that.
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Although his magic resistance obviously doesn't scale to his axe
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I should also point out while he can ignore non-offensive god-tier spells and he can ignore somewhat more powerful offensive spells, his magic reflection ends at being equal to him.
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Yeah, the usage of range and the mixture of flight and telekinesis does give Cinder a good advantage then. Hound can likely ignore the sleep powers but seeing as they lifted an entire house, and seeing how the resistance to telekinesis is based on mass, I highly doubt that the TK resistance would be an issue for Cinder.
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I'd say the range and telekinesis make Cinder victorious. Mainly FRA. Since King agreed with me in the Discord, I'll factor in that as two votes
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Well, he will, but yeah
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How often is one allowed to bump a page?
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Someone please
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Is that enough votes to add the results to the profiles?
