choosing ap in a key?

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Harry Potter (Character)

Harry James Potter is the title character of J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter series. The majority of the books' plot covers seven years in the life of the orphan Potter, who, on his eleventh birthday, learns he is a wizard. Thus, he attends Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry to learn magic...

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like harry potter has multiple ap's in one key.

is it okay to select one ap from a single key? (you can specifically pick 9-A harry and he can't have spells that go high 8-C)

when is it okay to not pick a specific ap in one key if there are multiple ap's?

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like here there are two ap's but you can't specifically choose one only

Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel)

Rimuru Tempest, formerly known as Mikami Satoru, is the main protagonist of Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken. He is the founder and King of the Monster Country. Also known as the "Tempest of the Great Jura Forest," he is regarded as one of the strongest Demon Lords amongst the Mighty Eight Star...

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also another example. some of rimuru's keys have multiple ap's. but can you pick a specific ap for them?

like i can choose from his second key ap

At least 6-A, High 4-C with the summoning of Veldora Tempest, Varies from High 4-C to Low 2-C with Gluttonous King Beelzebub

(can i choose specifically 6-A or do i have to include those things like veldora and gluttonous) so in this case you can't specifically choose one AP. you have to use all of them. (though if you do use all of them can you pick lower version of gluttonous?) or do you have to use both high 4-C and low 2-C? (because i remember a similar thing with Ruphas Mafahl in that you can't choose 1-B only as it will go to low 1-A as well)


so what are the rules with choosing a specific ap in a single key with multiple AP's. (and what if specific ap is something like 9-B to 9-A, 9-A possibly 8-C, or 9-B will eventually become high 8-C)

so how do i deal with selecting these things.


and what about weapons in their ap. (if a weapon ap is higher then their ap but it's not in a separate key. does it mean you can't restrict it?)

 

[Bernkastelll]

Harry Potter (Character)

Harry James Potter is the title character of J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter series. The majority of the books' plot covers seven years in the life of the orphan Potter, who, on his eleventh birthday, learns he is a wizard. Thus, he attends Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry to learn magic...

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like harry potter has multiple ap's in one key.

is it okay to select one ap from a single key? (you can specifically pick 9-A harry and he can't have spells that go high 8-C)

when is it okay to not pick a specific ap in one key if there are multiple ap's?

Yes, because these different keys are due different arcs

At least 6-A, High 4-C with the summoning of Veldora Tempest, Varies from High 4-C to Low 2-C with Gluttonous King Beelzebub

(can i choose specifically 6-A or do i have to include those things like veldora and gluttonous) so in this case you can't specifically choose one AP. you have to use all of them. (though if you do use all of them can you pick lower version of gluttonous?) or do you have to use both high 4-C and low 2-C? (because i remember a similar thing with Ruphas Mafahl in that you can't choose 1-B only as it will go to low 1-A as well)

Rimuru case, is because was 6-A as Demon Slime, but he can summon Veldora, which is High 4-C, and he also has Gluttonous King Beelzebub, which is an Low 2-C absorption, its not due ''different arcs'', they are in the same key together

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Yes, because these different keys are due different arcs

Rimuru case, is because was 6-A as Demon Slime, but he can summon Veldora, which is High 4-C, and he also has Gluttonous King Beelzebub, which is an Low 2-C absorption, its not due ''different arcs'', they are in the same key together

problem is harry doesn't have those "|" things.

okay but can i choose low level version of gluttonous or is that not allowed as in the case of benetash and staff. where it was 1-B to low 1-A and you can't do that because it will become low 1-A.


and still

"so what are the rules with choosing a specific ap in a single key with multiple AP's. (and what if specific ap is examples like 9-B to 9-A,

another example 9-A possibly 8-C,

or this example 9-B will eventually become high 8-C)"



and what about weapons in their ap. (if a weapon ap is higher then their ap but it's not in a separate key. does it mean you can't restrict it?)

 

[Bernkastelll]

problem is harry doesn't have those "|" things.

Well, his profile does give the separation of the ratings, despite not the |, because both 9-B and 9-A are physically, but 9-A happens latter, but i dont know enough about Harry Potter, sorry

.

okay but can i choose low level version of gluttonous or is that not allowed

No, because it is a matter of control, Beelzebub is usually High 4-C, but thats just because it is being controlled, if Rimuru loses it control, it can devour the entire universe along with the concept of time, as it was stated to work similar to the mobius system control

okay but can i choose low level version of gluttonous or is that not allowed as in the case of benetash and staff. where it was 1-B to low 1-A and you can't do that because it will become low 1-A.

it is similar to Benetash case, yeah, Beelzebub can increase it AP eventually

"so what are the rules with choosing a specific ap in a single key with multiple AP's. (and what if specific ap is examples like 9-B to 9-A,

another example 9-A possibly 8-C,

or this example 9-B will eventually become high 8-C)"



and what about weapons in their ap. (if a weapon ap is higher then their ap but it's not in a separate key. does it mean you can't restrict it?)

Well, u can't restrict standard weapons, but u can restrict the optional ones

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Well, his profile does give the separation of the ratings, despite not the |, because both 9-B and 9-A are physically, but 9-A happens latter, but i dont know enough about Harry Potter, sorry

No, because it is a matter of control, Beelzebub is usually High 4-C, but thats just because it is being controlled, if Rimuru loses it control, it can devour the entire universe along with the concept of time, as it was stated to work similar to the mobius system control

it is similar to Benetash case, yeah, Beelzebub can increase it AP eventually

Well, u can't restrict standard weapons, but u can restrict the optional ones

what about scenarios like

9-B like 8-C or 9-B possibly 8-C

can you just select 9-B instead of 8-C.

also what if we replace high 4-C to low 2-C. (replace the to with "will eventually become") still not specific choose.



Also bern. i got more questions but those are for a different time.

also maybe when i'm doing matches bern, they can point out what AP you can select or not select/restrict.

 

[Bernkastelll]

what about scenarios like

9-B like 8-C or 9-B possibly 8-C

can you just select 9-B instead of 8-C.

Yes

also what if we replace high 4-C to low 2-C. (replace the to with "will eventually become") still not specific choose.

You cant

Also bern. i got more questions but those are for a different time.

'kay

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Yes

You cant

'kay

sorry to bother but also

did you read this


"also maybe when i'm doing matches bern, they can point out what AP you can select or not select/restrict."


(if your not sure you can always ask people. actually before i make a match maybe i ask them first before. instead of asking them or ending up people pointing the ap stuff when i already made the match)

what do you think?

 

[Bernkastelll]

sorry to bother but also

did you read this


"also maybe when i'm doing matches bern, they can point out what AP you can select or not select/restrict."


(if your not sure you can always ask people. actually before i make a match maybe i ask them first before. instead of asking them or ending up people pointing the ap stuff when i already made the match)

what do you think?

I dunno about that

 

[Daddybrawl]

You can restrict anything that would set someone to a different Tier than they already are. For example, i can say ‘Rimuru can’t use Beezlebub’ because doing so would make him 2-C, but I can’t say ‘DIO can’t stop Time’ because it has nothing to do with his tier.

 

[Bernkastelll]

‘Rimuru can’t summon Beezlebub’ because doing so would make him 2-C

Beelzebub is the absorption

 

[Daddybrawl]

Beelzebub is the absorption

Shhhhhh I made 0 mistakes absolutely none

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Shhhhhh I made 0 mistakes absolutely none

what about this

Low 1-C to High 1-C with their strongest superweapons. (it's something i found on the time lords page)

their power depends on their weapons.

can i choose for a battle low 1-C weapons only. (there are some weapons that are high 1-C) but i can i choose low 1-C weapons only if the opponent is low 1-C civilization?

 

[Daddybrawl]

can i choose for a battle low 1-C weapons only. (there are some weapons that are high 1-C) but i can i choose low 1-C weapons only if the opponent is low 1-C civilization?

You can choose to use only their low 1-C Weapons, yes. I’m not sure what the latter part is asking, my apologies.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-xeelee-vs-the-time-lords-1-vote-left.123136/

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

that's what i was saying.



Also two more questions.


Does BFR matter sometimes if both opponents have the same range?


also remember that yogiri dude from instant death. i have a question about him.

Yogiri's ability doesn't instantly activate against people he cares for (that's base form)

couldn't you just create a scenario in the op where yogiri cares about the opponent but the opponent later decides to backstab him? (that way at least the effects won't happen instantly, thus making the fight a bit fair)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Can anyone answer the questions in my last reply?

 

[Daddybrawl]

I don’t know much about Yogiri, but, considering most matches will be against someone from another verse, I’m inclined to say No.

As for BFR, BFR is far too varied to answer reliably. Any number of variables would change the outcome. How does the BFR work? Where does the BFR send you? Does that place have any special effects? What powers does the opponent have that much range on? Do they need to see the opponent to use them? Etc. (these are Rhetorical Questions, please do not actually answer them 1 by 1 lol)