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Monika plots.

Not sure if Chara can do much to Monika when she becomes nonexistent, or incap her before that either.
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
Monika plots.
Not sure if Chara can do much to Monika when she becomes nonexistent, or incap her before that either.
Chara's acausality makes plot manipulation nearly worthless since Chara is not bound by cause and effect that Plot Manipulation can give control to.

So, this reasoning should be invalid
 
@Edwardtruong2006,

Monika is not bypassing Chara's mid-goldy regen by Existence Erasure . And Chara cannot be bypassed Monika's defense. So, I agree.

Although validity , Monika can win by her Mind Manipulation since Chara has no resistance to it.

That would be the best argument.

I will for Monika FTA
 
Nedge1000 said:
@Edwardtruong2006,

Monika is not bypassing Chara's mid-goldy regen by Existence Erasure . And Chara cannot be bypassed Monika's defense. So, I agree.

Although validity , Monika can win by her Mind Manipulation since Chara has no resistance to it.

That would be the best argument.

I will for Monika FTA
Not really true. Chara is completely uneffected by the memory wipe caused by a true reset, which not even Flowey (who minds you resists the normal version of this as well) can resist. Incon since neither has a way to kill the other.
 
Lightbuster30 said:
Not really true. Chara is completely uneffected by the memory wipe caused by a true reset, which not even Flowey (who minds you resists the normal version of this as well) can resist. Incon since neither has a way to kill the other.
Plot Manipulation can be used to Incapacitate.
 
>Plot Manip is a reasoning

>Monika only uses plot by error, and openly erases it.


Yeah no. Monika either:

Erases everything and chara just comes back, winning (monika doesn't really care about anything, and the only way for her to permanently erase chara would be killing the player.... yeah no).

Tries her BFR, chara simply uses frisks experience in charsimatic persuasion and convinces monika that for her soul she can have entire timelines to enjoy herself.
 
Its their type 8, but even whitout that this doesn't matter (weird, I remember itbeing mentioned when she was up against khorne)
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Its their type 8, but even whitout that this doesn't matter (weird, I remember itbeing mentioned when she was up against khorne)
But the page dose not say that. Is should state they are a conceptual being in some way instead of listing reliant immortality with no context.
 
I mean, there are some hints to it:


Omnipresent after reaching their "absolute" (Exists as an abstract entity whose influence is everywhere in all possible timelines, as well as continuing to exist everywhere in the empty void after reality has been destroyed)


In their true form, Chara exists as an abstract concept capable of manifesting no matter what as long as someone experiences the drive, will, and feelings they embody, thus making them nearly impossible to actually destroy or get rid of
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
I mean, there are some hints to it:


Omnipresent after reaching their "absolute" (Exists as an abstract entity whose influence is everywhere in all possible timelines, as well as continuing to exist everywhere in the empty void after reality has been destroyed)


In their true form, Chara exists as an abstract concept capable of manifesting no matter what as long as someone experiences the drive, will, and feelings they embody, thus making them nearly impossible to actually destroy or get rid of
I'm not aguing about what the statistic should be just that if the page should be revised that fights should probably be saved for later.
 
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