Chaos Users

[Arkenis]

So I looked over the Chaos Manipulation users and most are absent of any explanation. These should be removed or supporters should be advised to add the scans.

• Chaos King and many others (Marvel Comics)

Doesn't say anything for his chaos manip or what it is.

• Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel) (Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken)

His page says zero about Chaos manip but has it listed for him being a chaos user and doesn't explain this or what chaos subset it even is. So that should be removed.
Being worked on. Likely removed completed

• Lucifer Morningstar and many others (DC Comics)

His has it and is very blatant, just no ref or scan.

• Jack Garland and many others (Final Fantasy)

Has it and its through him absorbing Chaos the character, but when you go to his page, he doesn't have it either.

• Nahobino and many others (Megami Tensei)

I can only assume his comes from having Lucifer's abilities but when going to Lucifer's page his Chaos Manip is also blank.

• The Noita (Noita)

His Chaos Manip comes from "Chaos Magic" and this is very simply just a spell that randomly throws out 1 of 25 spells. Not at all Chaos Manip and should be removed.

 

[Re5yh]

Agree

 

[Lycoris4812]

Rimuru used to have it for Turn Null (His strongest ability), but it was removed for mtl. Not that it was wrong. They used the wrong scan anyways, we had the otl of it at that time but they didn't use it.

 

[Arkenis]

Is it gonna be readded or clarified in a crt?

 

[Lycoris4812]

Is it gonna be readded or clarified in a crt?

Yeah, verse-specific ability and all. @PrimeHydra64 is working on it.

 

[Thermor]

Agree.

 

[Eseseso]

Scarlet Witch is admittedly a much better example given that her powers are literally focused on Chaos Magic

 

[Excellence616]

Chaos King and many others (Marvel Comics)

Chaos King literally represent chaos.

 

[Arkenis]

Chaos King literally represent chaos.

Still need to show the aspects he has ? Or provide reasoning why its all.

 

[Excellence616]

Still need to show the aspects he has ? Or provide reasoning why its all.

Abstract Existence (Type 1) & Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, All Aspects; Is an aspect of Oblivion himself<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_King_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-21"><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a>, represents the Chaos and Primordial Darkness where everything was born, the Void opposite to Creation <a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_King_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-22"><span>[</span>22<span>]</span></a>)

 

[Arkenis]

Abstract Existence (Type 1) & Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, All Aspects; Is an aspect of Oblivion himself<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_King_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-21"><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a>, represents the Chaos and Primordial Darkness where everything was born, the Void opposite to Creation <a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_King_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-22"><span>[</span>22<span>]</span></a>)

If the page is unlocked can you just put chaos manip there

 

[Excellence616]

If the page is unlocked can you just put chaos manip there

It's already there tho

 

[Arkenis]

It's already there tho

It's in a different section from where chaos manip is.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Being worked on.

Rimuru's Void/Imaginary Collapse (Turn Null) is a textbook example of this. But first, Chaos Manipulation needs to be added back to Rimuru's profile.

• Primordial Chaos: The user can tap into the undifferentiated, formless state of the universe that existed before the dawn of creation. In this period, all matter and energy were unified in an indistinguishable mass of pure potential, lacking structure, order, or form. It s characterized by high energy and low entropy, predating the emergence of creation itself, including the fundamental laws of physics, space, and time.

Originally, "Nihility Collapse" was a phenomenon that was impossible to control. It was as if Testarossa was forcefully using the "void" she had poured her heart and soul into controlling as pure energy. Nihility Collapse's true nature could be said to be of the chaos before the Abyss of Hell collapsed, or rather- "the chaos of before Hell was birthed". ~Volume 22 Translation Helpers Translation

Void Collapse: the ultimate destructive force, driving a world of chaos.
Requires a manas to fully control. ~Volume 16 OTL

Complex Space: a world of chaos. A superpowered version of my Stomach and Isolate abilities; a prison cell that locks away anything that must be isolated. ~Vol 16 OTL

There was a good reason for it, too-he was circulating the energy from Void Collapse within his body, like blood. This power coursing in his veins was so dangerous, a single mistake in controlling it could very well destroy the whole world. ~Volume 21 OTL

That is correct. Time has stopped in this place. The expansion of space has also reached its end. The law of entropy has guided this
universe into its final stasis. ~Volume 21 OTL

A great deal of time has passed, so the energy derived from the Void Collapse has accumulated to a massive extent. Veldanava lost Void Collapse when he created the world, but since you have Complex Space, that was not a problem. ~Volume 21 OTL

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Gods from Trinity Seven: need to get the CRT accepted first.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Rimuru's Void/Imaginary Collapse (Turn Null) is a textbook example of this. But first, Chaos Manipulation needs to be added back to Rimuru's profile.

• Primordial Chaos: The user can tap into the undifferentiated, formless state of the universe that existed before the dawn of creation. In this period, all matter and energy were unified in an indistinguishable mass of pure potential, lacking structure, order, or form. It s characterized by high energy and low entropy, predating the emergence of creation itself, including the fundamental laws of physics, space, and time.

Note:

While the primordial universe lacked structured matter or observable energy, it is not accurate to describe it as a void state or state of nothingness.

Feats that imply the total absence or destruction of matter and energy, such as creating voids or erasing existence, are disqualified. Anything that implies the annihilation of these elements violates the core tenets of thermodynamic law and thus incompatible with the concept of entropy.

Note: I hadn't considered these points when making this comment, and frankly, in Rimuru's case, Imaginary Collapse/Void Collapse (Primordial Chaos) is also nothingness/void and it's create negative energy from nothingness/void that annihilate all matter and energy.

Therefore, technically, as it is currently being handled, it seems like a bad example of Primordial Chaos under Entropy Manipulation.

Abstract Existence (Type 1) & Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, All Aspects; Is an aspect of Oblivion himself, represents the Chaos and Primordial Darkness where everything was born, the Void opposite to Creation)

However, this situation isn't unique to Rimuru. Chaos King would suffer from this too.

Also this guy.

Probably many more characters. However, these characters are definitely manipulating the Primordial Chaos of nothingness that precedes existence, which is why the page itself probably needs revision; otherwise, even some most obvious examples don't fit this description.

 

[Arkenis]

Makes sense. Those are likely just void manip full on