Chainsaw Man possible concept manip upgrade

[Rez]

So one of the concepts that Chainsaw man erased includes the "four possible conclusion other than death living at the end of an living beings life span" meaning it's a concept equivalent to the concept of death and is universally applicable since Makima mentions living beings in general not just humans (even if it was just humans it would have still qualified as type 2 nothing so changes even than)

In the same panel it's also stated he erased the sixth sense humans used to have so it's an concept that applies to all of humanity another feat for type 2.
So, basically Denji's concept manip should type 2 concept destruction

 

[Bernkastelll]

Agreed

 

[Sus]

seems fine

 

[Rez]

Bump

 

[QuasiYuri]

Looks good

 

[Rez]

Bump

 

[Catzlaflame]

Agreed

 

[DarlingAurora]

I agree.

 

[Rez]

Also Makima's resistance should be changed to limited resistance. Description of her resistance should tell you why

 

[Delta333]

agree

 

[Rez]

Bump

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I don't think the literal concept was erased. Makima mentioned that when a Devil is eaten, people forget that concept exists. That does not mean it did not happen.

Case in point, Makima's reincarnated Devil. Society didn't collapse as a whole because Denji ate Makima, the concept of control continued to persist because people will always fear it.

Devils will always be tied to cognition rather than literal concepts. So the 5 other things that happen to you after death still exist, people just don't know what they are because nobody fears them.

 

[Rez]

Case in point, Makima's reincarnated Devil. Society didn't collapse as a whole because Denji ate Makima, the concept of control continued to persist because people will always fear it.

It was Denji who ate Makima not the chainsaw devil

 

[Rez]

And the concepts themselves are erased since the devil's embody the concepts of their name and will simply reincarnate in hell as long as the concept exist

 

[Rez]

I don't think the literal concept was erased. Makima mentioned that when a Devil is eaten, people forget that concept exists. That does not mean it did not happen.

Case in point, Makima's reincarnated Devil. Society didn't collapse as a whole because Denji ate Makima, the concept of control continued to persist because people will always fear it.

Devils will always be tied to cognition rather than literal concepts. So the 5 other things that happen to you after death still exist, people just don't know what they are because nobody fears them.

They are erased from past, future and memories and if they weren't erased they will simply reincarnate in hell

 

[Rez]

I don't think the literal concept was erased. Makima mentioned that when a Devil is eaten, people forget that concept exists. That does not mean it did not happen.

Case in point, Makima's reincarnated Devil. Society didn't collapse as a whole because Denji ate Makima, the concept of control continued to persist because people will always fear it.

Devils will always be tied to cognition rather than literal concepts. So the 5 other things that happen to you after death still exist, people just don't know what they are because nobody fears them.

All of these once existed and were feared every bit as much as the devils with their name
meaning it isn't just the devil's that are getting erased everything related to their name is too

 

[Dereck03]

Yep, i agree with this

 

[Rez]

All of these once existed and were feared every bit as much as the devils with their name
meaning it isn't just the devil's that are getting erased everything related to their name is too

So the 5 other things after death are also gone

 

[QuasiYuri]

I don't think the literal concept was erased. Makima mentioned that when a Devil is eaten, people forget that concept exists. That does not mean it did not happen.

Case in point, Makima's reincarnated Devil. Society didn't collapse as a whole because Denji ate Makima, the concept of control continued to persist because people will always fear it.

Devils will always be tied to cognition rather than literal concepts. So the 5 other things that happen to you after death still exist, people just don't know what they are because nobody fears them.

Denji has a different kind, "downgraded version" in comparison to the Chainsaw Devil.
Aids litteraly don't exist anymore in Chainsaw Man for instance.

 

[Rez]

I don't think the literal concept was erased. Makima mentioned that when a Devil is eaten, people forget that concept exists. That does not mean it did not happen.

Case in point, Makima's reincarnated Devil. Society didn't collapse as a whole because Denji ate Makima, the concept of control continued to persist because people will always fear it.

Devils will always be tied to cognition rather than literal concepts. So the 5 other things that happen to you after death still exist, people just don't know what they are because nobody fears them.

Also Makima's whole plan is to use chainsaw man to remove death from the world (i seriously can't believe I missed these panels in previous crt)

 

[Sir_Ovens]

It was Denji who ate Makima not the chainsaw devil

I don't see how this makes a difference? What would Denji accomplish doing this if not to erase Makima from existence?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Also if true, the Chainsaw Devil wouldn't be able to eat concepts that do not have a conceptual embodiment.

 

[Rez]

I don't see how this makes a difference? What would Denji accomplish doing this if not to erase Makima from existence?

His goal wasn't to erase Makima it was to just get rid of her and Denji in his human form isn't the Chainsaw devil hell he can even separate chainsaw devil from himself and I already gave you the scan showing that chainsaw man does erases concepts as everything else related to Devil's name is also erased

 

[Rez]

Also if true, the Chainsaw Devil wouldn't be able to eat concepts that do not have a conceptual embodiment.

Why? Devil's embodies their concept that's just abstract existence type 2

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Why? Devil's embodies their concept that's just abstract existence type 2

Because we have not seen the Chainsaw Devil bite the air and consume the concept of fish. He needs to consume the being that embodies the concept in order to erase it.

 

[Rez]

Because we have not seen the Chainsaw Devil bite the air and consume the concept of fish. He needs to consume the being that embodies the concept in order to erase it.

He needs to eat it biting≠eating and I believe you meant to write concept of air

 

[Rez]

Devil's will receive type 2 abstract existence for their concept embodiment part but I don't care about that and concept manipulation is just one of few ways to kill ae type 2 characters makes sense to me

 

[Rez]

Anyway can I change type 3 to 2 now?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Also, I'd like to throw this in.

I'm ready to post the page and we can apply it to the relevant pages.

 

[Rez]

Also, I'd like to throw this in.

The concept manip part just needs to be changed to type 2 and the description needs to be changed a bit too since the concept isn't just being erased from human cognition it's being erased entirely as explained by Makima in this panel:

All of these once existed and were feared every bit as much as the devils with their name
meaning it isn't just the devil's that are getting erased everything related to their name is too

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Also, I'd like to throw this in.

Is the beam profile included? if it is, it has yami's notable attacks and age and some others

 

[Rez]

Is the beam profile included? if it is, it has yami's notable attacks and age and some others

I think they were just talking about devil physiology since the beam profile is clearly incomplete

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I'm working on it but it's not complete.

 

[Rez]

Oh Denji's page is locked gonna need someone to open it. @Sir_Ovens can you do it?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Yeah sure.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Denji's page is unlocked.

 

[Rez]

Oh I wasn't logged in into fandom

 

[Rez]

Made the edit this crt can be closed now