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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

All that speed for low teirs with 9-A AP because they have near to no screen time. Especially Power, she only has 1 major fightscene in the entire manga and it's against some zombies.

She kinda doesn't get to grasp the new scaling like Beam and Galgali considering she doesn't have any fights to help us make a comparison or decision. Aki could no diff her in a serious fight.
 
GunshyFever said:
All that speed for low teirs with 9-A AP because they have near to no screen time. Especially Power, she only has 1 major fightscene in the entire manga and it's against some zombies.

She kinda doesn't get to grasp the new scaling like Beam and Galgali considering she doesn't have any fights to help us make a comparison or decision. Aki could no diff her in a serious fight.
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Makes up for her Devil form having one of the most broken hax in the series
 
If Makima uses Eternity Devil on somebody, can she disable the weakness of how the ED is vulnerable to pain by just offing his pain receptors or making him not say "No" to how much pain the ED gets?
 
Aaaaa11112222 said:
I mean she has full control over the person and their mind, wouldn't that be enough of a reason to conclude she could? And for the emotion thing, isn't that enough substance
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Again, as Gunshy said, it's a NLF to say she can do something without the feat of doing it.
It can't be argued a wincon in any matchups ever since she's never done it and if she ever wins a matchup from said non-existent wincon, it'll quickly be removed due to NLF
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
Again, as Gunshy said, it's a NLF to say she can do something without the feat of doing it.
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How is it an NLF if you can logically conclude it given a substantiated premise? She has full control over the mind, so she can disable functions of the mind that has pain receptors or emotions as per her full control over it. And as Gunshy said, you've even seen her minions fight with no emotions
 
Aaaaa11112222 said:
If Makima uses Eternity Devil on somebody, can she disable the weakness of how the ED is vulnerable to pain by just offing his pain receptors or making him not say "No" to how much pain the ED gets?
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No she could just tell it not to show itself lol, which eliminates that weakness. It even did this while under Death's command in Part 2.
 
Considering the movie has been out for a while now, it is not a stretch to say that we are still very disorganized. If we want to be progressive, with even a chance of seeing the speed CRT anytime soon, we need an agenda. We need something that helps us clearly see what feats and calcs from the movie still need to be covered, especially those that will affect scaling.

It is important that I do this now because as next year begins, it will be a very serious time in my life. I will have to spend more time focusing on other things, meaning I will be far less active. This way, even when I am in and out, we still know exactly what needs to be covered.

Like I did when I first came here, I created a chart for feats and thankfully it worked as it helped us get to where we are today through everyone's combined efforts, so I will attempt to do the same thing here with the movie.

Disclaimer: I will likely list every relevant feat I can find, not all of them will be necessary. Some will only serve as supporting feats. Feel free to cherry pick which calculations you would like to attempt or which ones you think need to be attempted. I will also be posting some of these in the calculation requests thread to see how much progress we can make over time.

Feats (Uncalculated):
  • Fiend form Beam dashes fast toward Reze
    (This can also be interpreted as a speed feat for Reze, as she completely statues him in slow motion without using explosions. Beam still performs a fast dash here, so this could serve as a base speed feat for him if anything solid comes from it)
  • Galgali's axe kick gets blocked by Reze
    (That's one hell of an upgrade. Pretty strong, and would end up scaling to those as strong as or stronger than Reze in lifting strength)
  • Reze's Big Boom
    (Exclusive to Reze's AP with her dynamite stick setup)
Wow, thats really it, I thought there would be much more, considering how vibrant the movie was at the time, and the bright flashing colors and eye candy made it seem longer.

Feats (Calculated):
  • Angel throws his spear fast
    (Mach 6.35) (Hypersonic)
    Scales to Angel's attack speed with these weapons, I don't think they scale to anyone else.
    (Awaiting Evaluation)
  • Reze Torpedo AP
    (512 tons of TNT) Multi City Block level
    Scales in AP for Reze's torpedoes and durability for Reze, Denji and transformed Beam.
    (Awaiting Evaluation)
  • Typhoon Devil LS, speed, and AP
    (47,807.52 metric tons | 82.52543012 tons of TNT) Class M and City Block level+
    Beam and Denji are literally inside the typhoon resisting its force and not getting blown away. Both are shown moving forward and dodging obstacles, so the lifting strength scaling is solid. The AP only scales to his chainsaws which already scale higher, so this mainly serves as a supporting AP feat.
    (Awaiting Evaluation)
  • Reze's torpedo speed
    (Mach 3) Supersonic+
    Supporting feat
    (Accepted)
  • Reze Blitzes Beam
    (Mach 157.687) Massively Hypersonic
    Scales to Reze's base speed and anyone who scales to her base speed.
    (Awaiting Evaluation)
  • Reze Blitzes Denji
    (Mach 3,026.86) Massively Hypersonic+
    The MHS+ scales to Reze's explosive speed.
    (Awaiting Evaluation)
This is everything we currently have from the movie.
 
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I got another version of the Angel spear speed feat sent to my wall, havent evaluated it yet, just saying one should be picked.
Calculating based on the falling blood or based on Reze
 
I mixed up the Reze calculation blogs, as Phantom made an updated ver with everything, so I updated my post. I'm gonna place it as incomplete as they did mention that they weren't finished.
 
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