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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Justkeepwading said:
The main point was that Makima wanted a one on one fight with pochita and if she just stood from a distance and used her sacrificial hax that defeats the point, since we also know that she wouldn't mind losing to pochita and getting eaten as well since she admires him that much. Her weakening pochita still accomplishes that because in her head, she would've been stronger than that weakened pochita and as such would be able to control him, also as others have said, mole devil probably wouldn't work since pochita could just do the same thing reze did and form a whole new body, it could also be a case where pochita would've been too fast for Makima and her pawns to actually land that mole devil thing since they have to point at the person.


I don't see why she wouldn't have Cosmo, since she blitzed her and quanxi after the international assassins arc, and had no trouble subjugating quanxi, Makima didn't really need Cosmo in any of her major fights anyways. And for the fights she could've used her in, she didn't want to use any abilities in that fight.
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So if Makima is willing to take indirect actions to attack Pochita then abusing hax to do so should be on the table. Really there’s no difference between using media to weaken him and then win and using crazy hax from a distance before moving in for the finish. Pochita has a limited blood pool, forcing him to grow a new body is a very good tactic. Pochita doesn’t constantly move about in battle. If Reze could get her hands on him then Makima can get an
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Makima doesn’t just control everyone she beats. We even know that Public Safety still has Cosmo and other Fiends bodies as that’s how they’re blackmailing Quanxi in part 2
 
It's almost like Makima is the one that eliminated them on screen, captured them for Public Safety's custody and could summon their corpses under her chains and use their powers any time
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
So if Makima is willing to take indirect actions to attack Pochita then abusing hax to do so should be on the table. Really there’s no difference between using media to weaken him and then win and using crazy hax from a distance before moving in for the finish. Pochita has a limited blood pool, forcing him to grow a new body is a very good tactic. Pochita doesn’t constantly move about in battle. If Reze could get her hands on him then Makima can get an
Opening for mold.

Makima doesn’t just control everyone she beats. We even know that Public Safety still has Cosmo and other Fiends bodies as that’s how they’re blackmailing Quanxi in part 2
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The point is and has always been that Makima, admires pochita alot, she wants a direct fight with pochita, not some easy kill that last like 2 minutes, and she states multiple times in the fight that she also desires to be eaten by him, so while she has a desire to accomplish her goals of making a better world with pochita's power, she isn't opposed to getting defeated and killed by pochita since she's that much of a fan, this is even more evident when she decides to do cqc with Denji instead of using something like bang to just kill him right there, because even though she thinks it's Denji in that moment, she admires chainsawman so much that she's willing to have a one on one dragged out fight with him. I don't see why you're bringing up reze, she wasn't fast enough to tag him, pochita just happened to be in the air and reze caught him while he was falling. In character pochita does constantly move around, I don't think this should be a point of debate.

Someone else answered Ur second point I think
 
The spear assumed to be accelerating in that entire scene to earth and Denji scales to its acceleration, right?
 
Epiccheev said:
How did the world's most underwhelming nuke even reach gigaton range 😭😭😭 (unless it's uoscaling gun goddess)
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Definitely not by sheer DC, Eljo calced that to be around like 10 Kilotons at best. That's weaker than an average WWII nuke. It upscales from the Gun Goddess from doing equivalent damage to a healthier Pochita.
 
Epiccheev said:
How did the world's most underwhelming nuke even reach gigaton range 😭😭😭 (unless it's uoscaling gun goddess)
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GunshyFever said:
Definitely not by sheer DC, Eljo calced that to be around like 10 Kilotons at best. That's weaker than an average WWII nuke. It upscales from the Gun Goddess from doing equivalent damage to a healthier Pochita.
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I feel like another justification would be Yoru's sheer affectuation of America (transmuting people of Virginia into nuclear energy) would have more power then any of her aforementioned weapons (excluding Oregon sword), on the same principle that Asa's guilt = stronger weapons, I think more Yoru's ecstasy over certain things = stronger things ingeneral
 
GunshyFever said:
You'd need definitive proof
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I think you can make a case off of the importance of America, Yoru's character and the fact that the weapons get crazier based off of it icl, I'll try to dig (actually re-read the story) and make a proposal? But I don't think it's less of a cut-clear-case but more of something that is alluded to in the story
 
GunshyFever said:
Yeah, outright as well, he dodges it several times.
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Then the calc is formatted wrong. For the 3 second end no panel counting end I agree with the acceleration would be 8.53 e6 m/s^2 with a final speed of 85.5% c, 5 end which we might get because CGMs would rather play it safe than make the most sense 30.8e6 m/s^2 acceleration and a final velocity of 51.3% of c. If you really wanna panel count and make sense aka mesosphere end the acceleration is around twice the speed of light and with the same peak speed.

a= (2*s) / t^2
v^2 = u^2 + 2*a*s
 
Would Pochita and Yoru get Radiation resistance (more than what he has now for Pochita) or do we just think their regen is just cancelling it out
 
PhantomØ4 said:
Then the calc is formatted wrong. For the 3 second end no panel counting end I agree with the acceleration would be 8.53 e6 m/s^2 with a final speed of 85.5% c, 5 end which we might get because CGMs would rather play it safe than make the most sense 30.8e6 m/s^2 acceleration and a final velocity of 51.3% of c. If you really wanna panel count and make sense aka mesosphere end the acceleration is around twice the speed of light and with the same peak speed.

a= (2*s) / t^2
v^2 = u^2 + 2*a*s
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I tried it
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Yoru spears Denji

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Bruh said:
Would Pochita and Yoru get Radiation resistance (more than what he has now for Pochita) or do we just think their regen is just cancelling it out
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Would be resistance as it's not noted or particularly shown affecting them beyond the initial explosion.
 
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