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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

The States Sword should definitely upscale from Gun Goddess considering
a. Yoru and her ability is stronger
b. The sacrafice is much larger than a statue and some fingers
LS should be Class G via upscaling from pt1 Pochita and the Octopus Devil
Her ability being strong doesn't necessarily mean that the weapon is stronger than the Gun Goddess. For all we know, the Gun Goddess was not created by Yoru. It had relations with the Gun Devil, which is why Yoru was able to summon it with the Gun Gauntlet and its power comes from the fact that it shoots intercontinental bullets. The only thing you can really get out of the Oregon sword is that it is durable, which it is shown to be respectively.

We also do not have definitive proof that Yoru would scale to the LS of the Octopus Devil, considering how octopuses function and the surface area of Pochita's body they were able to grip. They were only able to hold him for a brief moment before being erased themselves.
 
Alright, so I know us Chainsaw Man fans are tired of the environmental destruction and are hungry for some AP feats, so I thought of a nice solution that could give us a solid tier regarding Yoru and Pochita only. For this, we would have to take into account the durability of the Oregon Sword, which, using the kinetic energy of its formation, comes out to High 6-A. From there we can scale that to Pochita's chainsaws, since both blades show relativity during their clash. Yoru also needed the power of the people of Oregon to assist her once Pochita began overpowering the Oregon Sword. We can then upscale the Nuclear Punch from this as well.
I'm confused didn't you and Zab both say that the energy of the sword =/= the energy of the thing she's transmutating meaning her sword isn't like outputting country levels of energy since her weapons don't scale to the thing she's converting? So why would the durability of her sword scale to the energy of Michigan
 
I'm confused didn't you and Zab both say that the energy of the sword =/= the energy of the thing she's transmutating meaning her sword isn't like outputting country levels of energy since her weapons don't scale to the thing she's converting? So why would the durability of her sword scale to the energy of Michigan
Because the method of formation does require the material to endure that energy, which is why it does scale to durability.
Nobody said anything about outputting. Anyways put this under wraps, that idea never lasted long.
 
Your sentences are not connecting, what are you asking and what are you trying to tell me?
I was trying to say two different stuff, but first of all, isn't the durability of something still scaling to energy? Like a baseball bat's durability can be 1J, some guy can tank 7KJ of energy, so on.
Second of all, is the idea of even the durability of the Michigan sword not being High 6A lost now?
 
I was trying to say two different stuff, but first of all, isn't the durability of something still scaling to energy? Like a baseball bat's durability can be 1J, some guy can tank 7KJ of energy, so on.
If someone tanks 7 kj of energy, that does not mean they can survive any 7 kJ attack. There's different ways it can be applied like blunt impact, heat, piercing force or explosion which all transfer energy differently. But durability does scale to energy but it is not just raw energy by itself but it's about how much energy an object can withstand without failing and that depends on how the energy is applied.

So in the case of Oregon sword's durability, it should scale to at least the energy involved in its formation.
 
But doesn't the stuff Yoru transmutates into swords get pinned down by cars/smaller buildings? Isn't that runing the durability aspect of the sword?
No, because weight and durability are two different things. As long as the buildings or vehicles don't damage the weapons, there are no anti-feats.
 
No, because weight and durability are two different things. As long as the buildings or vehicles don't damage the weapons, there are no anti-feats.
I mean, the Michigan sword just the state of Michigan compressed into a single sword, so doesn't it hold the same density when you think about it?
 
I have repeatedly told you no. The answer is no. If it had the same mass of Michigan in that tiny volume, it would be heavy as ****. Every other weapon Yoru ever made shows they are not particularly dense or heavy.
Yes it's contradicted in the narrative multiple times but speaking from the feat alone, doesn't it show Michigan is just condensed into a sword thus having the same density? Like what would explain why her weapons aren't heavy when we see Michigan just compressing into a smaller sword.
 
Though I'm a bit confused even on the durability of the sword scaling to the kinetic energy of what formed it. Why is the energy that is causing the formation of something equated to the energy the result can withstand? For instance, if you shoot a bullet at high speeds and it hits a surface it gets flattened, but the resulting bullet doesn't scale to the energy of the impact. A car can drive at super fast speeds and like crash something and be deformed, but the resulting car doesn't scale to the impact.
 
I agree with both of the scales tbh, I see the vision of the Multi-Continential chainscale but I don't think it'd fly on this site
But everything else? Hell yeah, you cooked Gunshy!
 
Depending on how much of the moon gets chunked and how fast it goes, yeah. As long as it doesn't come down faster than a second, you will be able to get some stupidly high K.E
 
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