Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[ElJoaki5]

I doubt the calc will be accepted anyways. If you really want it evaluated you can put it on Rusty’s wall.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I was thinking about the scaling ramifications if this calc gets accepted, and who would scale to it. So far I’ve got:
Falling’s Gravity (of course, her activated uses would likely be stronger than the passive effect)
Death (Considered the strongest devil and would’ve killed Falling in the past as Falling is one of her pawns)
Potentially Yoru (Was confident she could defeat Falling despite knowing of her gravity causing a world wide inversion, survived a building being thrown onto her by Falling’s gravity)
Potentially Old Age (Should be stronger than a weakened Falling, far stronger than Yoru)
Potentially Pochita (Fought the horsemen and weapons in hell in the past, comparable in fear to Old Age)
Potentially Darkness (Should be stronger than a weakened Falling)
All this is assuming it isn’t an outlier of course

Planetary CSM, are we deadass?
(Not mad at you btw.)

 

[ElJoaki5]

Planetary CSM, are we deadass?
(Not mad at you btw.)

On god we need a Giannysmag for this verse.

 

[That_moron2]

Falling’s gravity manip =/= fallings telekinesis.

How do you think Falling does telekinesis

 

[That_moron2]

Planetary CSM, are we deadass?
(Not mad at you btw.)

I dunno

 

[Epiccheev]

If it gets accepted all it takes is falling using her "full power" against denji only to make an 8-C crater in the ground and we are getting 5-B base Denji. Let that sink in.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

On god we need a Giannysmag for this verse.

At best, we have @ElajRuengies, but...

 

[That_moron2]

If it gets accepted all it takes is falling using her "full power" against denji only to make an 8-C crater in the ground and we are getting 5-B base Denji. Let that sink in.

Debunked by an entirely hypothetical scenario

 

[That_moron2]

I doubt the calc will be accepted anyways. If you really want it evaluated you can put it on Rusty’s wall.

Don’t get it twisted I have like 0 confidence in this calc

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

If it gets accepted all it takes is falling using her "full power" against denji only to make an 8-C crater in the ground and we are getting 5-B base Denji. Let that sink in.

Base Denji being 5-B won't happen and will be rejected so long as i live

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Debunked by an entirely hypothetical scenario

A very probable scenario for this verse, to be fair. I mean, i doubt anyone expected for Fakesaw man to redirect FP Yoru 28% Gun bangs back-to-back

 

[ElJoaki5]

Mathematically speaking, it doesnt make sense for all of Falling's gravity attacks to be the same energy anyway. Falling does not apply an energy, she applies an acceleration, which then leads to KE/PE, which depends on the objects mass too. This means that when Falling affects the entire world with gravity fluctuations the energy is way higher than we affecting an individual person.

 

[ElJoaki5]

At best, we have @ElajRuengies, but...

Seats taken. I already have a downgrade crt up.

 

[That_moron2]

Mathematically speaking, it doesnt make sense for all of Falling's gravity attacks to be the same energy anyway. Falling does not apply an energy, she applies an acceleration, which then leads to KE/PE, which depends on the objects mass too. This means that when Falling affects the entire world with gravity fluctuations the energy is way higher than we affecting an individual person.

I don’t know if that’s how we treat gravity manipulation, but this is a good point

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Seats taken. I already have a downgrade crt up.

Then i'm guess i'll be stealing your body then and claim your seat instead...

 

[ElajRuengies]

Said this somewhere else, repeating it here:
The issue with Falling's gravity reversal is that she doesn't passively invert gravity on everything within a volumn of space like the calc suggests- the chapter itself with her shows her collateral mostly effecting people. And while it must be able to effect some land given the statement about landslides and cave ins, we have no clue how much that is, making the feat uncalcable.

 

[That_moron2]

Said this somewhere else, repeating it here:
The issue with Falling's gravity reversal is that she doesn't passively invert gravity on everything within a volumn of space like the calc suggests- the chapter itself with her shows her collateral mostly effecting people. And while it must be able to effect some land given the statement about landslides and cave ins, we have no clue how much that is, making the feat uncalcable.

Yoru said it was worldwide

 

[ElJoaki5]

Yoru said it was worldwide

It affected specific things through the entire world, not the entire world.

 

[That_moron2]

It affected specific things through the entire world, not the entire world.

While that's true, its notable that this was happening even after Falling's defeat. Why? Because she significantly affected the entire world's gravity, causing fluctuations.

 

[ElajRuengies]

While that's true, its notable that this was happening even after Falling's defeat. Why? Because she significantly affected the entire world's gravity, causing fluctuations.

"Fluctuations" literally means irregular changes, which a uniform reversal of gravity on everything would not be.

 

[That_moron2]

"Fluctuations" literally means irregular changes, which a uniform reversal of gravity on everything would not be.

To cause fluctuations in the first place the gravity would need to have been destabilized

 

[Zabazab]

To cause fluctuations in the first place the gravity would need to have been destabilized

Gravity in location X need not be destabilized in order for the gravity in location Y to fluctuate. You can't even calculate this theoretical "destabilization" (which is not supported by the manga).

Basically: Just drop it. Planetary CSM is wank for now.

 

[That_moron2]

Gravity in location X need not be destabilized in order for the gravity in location Y to fluctuate.

It was happening all over the world and it wasn't targeted, since Falling wasn't even active at the time. They are random, and not limited to one specific area as your point would suggest, it seems more likely this phenomenon is caused by Falling messing up Earth's gravity worldwide. To be fair that doesn't really equate to what I calced, which would be a reversal on all landmass.

You can't even calculate this theoretical "destabilization" (which is not supported by the manga).

I think you might be able to but I'd have to do more research into it, it might be just equal to Earth's gravitational force

Basically: Just drop it. Planetary CSM is wank for now.

Could the calc work if I limited it to inhabited areas?

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Then i'm guess i'll be stealing your body then and claim your seat instead...

stitches on Eljoaki5's head

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

stitches on Eljoaki5's head

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Quick question.
if we've all agreed that the 1K Angel spear is only applicaple to Makima, shouldn't it's ablities be removed from his profile? Sure his ablities created the spear but what's the point of it being on his page if he can't ever use it

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Quick question.
if we've all agreed that the 1K Angel spear is only applicaple to Makima, shouldn't it's ablities be removed from his profile? Sure his ablities created the spear but what's the point of it being on his page if he can't ever use it

The fact that his ability created the spear?

like if there was another factor that made it only so that Makima can do that then its reasonable but Iirc there isn't anything that implied that Angel couldn't do it it would just be a case that he simply doesn't use it often use it in character

 

[Zabazab]

Quick question.
if we've all agreed that the 1K Angel spear is only applicaple to Makima, shouldn't it's ablities be removed from his profile? Sure his ablities created the spear but what's the point of it being on his page if he can't ever use it

Did I miss this?

He absolutely should have Usage: 1000 Years because he can absorb 1000 years of life and then use it.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

He absolutely should have Usage: 1000 Years because he can absorb 1000 years of life and then use it.

Then make a crt and add it to his profile since he only has a 100 year sword

 

[ElajRuengies]

Did I miss this?

He absolutely should have Usage: 1000 Years because he can absorb 1000 years of life and then use it.

He doesn't have that many years stocked up normally though, considering how many people Makima had chained to herself before making the spear. And I feel like draining 1000 Years would already kill most opponents in VS Matchups anywho.

 

[GunshyFever]

He doesn't have that many years stocked up normally though, considering how many people Makima had chained to herself before making the spear. And I feel like draining 1000 Years would already kill most opponents in VS Matchups anywho.

Key word most, it would still be useful against immortals or characters with longevity. However, I still don't think we should include it because if a second of contact drains up to 2 months of the opponent's life, then siphoning 1000 years would take 1 hour and 40 minutes, which is unrealistic for a vs matchup. I'd say it's best to stick with what he's actually shown to use or create or we'd be merging into headcannon territory.

 

[Zabazab]

He doesn't have that many years stocked up normally though, considering how many people Makima had chained to herself before making the spear. And I feel like draining 1000 Years would already kill most opponents in VS Matchups anywho.

He can still do it, and as an indexing wiki we must include everything his powers can do. Thinking it's unlikely to come up in a vs match isn't a disqualifier.

 

[VoidGoji]

Hm. Should Gun Devil get "possibly contracted with Gun Goddess" or some stuff on its profile? Since Yoru used the contracted through it, and we saw that Gun already made a contract with the USA

 

[GunshyFever]

Hm. Should Gun Devil get "possibly contracted with Gun Goddess" or some stuff on its profile? Since Yoru used the contracted through it, and we saw that Gun already made a contract with the USA

Yoru used the Gun Devil's contracts to create the Gun Goddess

 

[GunshyFever]

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

I'm eating those

 

[VoidGoji]

Yoru used the Gun Devil's contracts to create the Gun Goddess

Yeah,mb. Very bad wording on my part. Meant like,giving Gun access to GG. Guess not then

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

It's practically finished, I'm working on Asa's profile tho so I haven't formatted the CRT yet. (Some calcs haven't been evaluated either)

So, what are you working on with the Asa profile? Is it the tank stuff or is there something more going on that i might've missed?
(Also, has the unevaluated calcs been evaluated)

 

[GunshyFever]

So, what are you working on with the Asa profile? Is it the tank stuff or is there something more going on that i might've missed?
(Also, has the unevaluated calcs been evaluated)

I'm doing a complete profile rework. I've been feeling a bit burned out when it comes to creating profiles or working on the verse in general, so I haven't been very active with progression.
(Edit: Read that wrong. No they haven't)

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I'm doing a complete profile rework. I've been feeling a bit burned out when it comes to creating profiles or working on the verse in general, so I haven't been very active with progression.

Oh, i get it. Powerscaling is sometimes quite tasking on the brain. I ain't rushing. Say, if you're feeling bummed out, would you say Asa's profile would need?

(Edit: Read that wrong. No they haven't)

I see. hmm. I'll see what i can do to request for them to be evaluated