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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

DrGreyman said:
holy
Fakesaw deflected the shot like Pochita did

though he did get cut by denji
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though he did get cut by denji
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haven't we not seen a post fear amped denji fight? not sure if there is a "though" statement here. Denji could just be that fast as well. (Of course we should wait for more chapters for anything defenitive.)
 
ElajRuengies said:
Pochita blocked it and got knocked on his ass.
Fakesaw swatted it like it was a baseball.
... And then he lost an arm to Denji.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Chainsaw Man - Chainsaw Man - Chainsaw Man scaling triangle!
Denji < Pochita < Fakesaw < Denji
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This would all be fixed if Denji gets his ass beaten next chapter :sneaky:
 
Fakesaw accurately slashed it in half, Pochita blocked and deflected it instead, thus causing allthis. So yeah let's go with the bullet splitting in two, it will help resolves everything. Denji just has more skills and speed than Fakesaw, that's why he could match Fakesaw. Piercing power vs Flesh body go brrr, Denji just got impressive piercing power while Fakesaw's flesh sucks at tanking those, that's all.
 
ElajRuengies said:
Again, I'd change that to 50% of the building went into it's mouth, tops. Because most of the building was just wrecked.
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Back to Fox, I'd still go with what the manga had shown which is about 10%, could be 20% but it doesn't really matter much, as large as Fox is it could lift much more that what's shown in the calc anyways (plus it matches the fox destroy building calc, using the anime would annihilate that calc).

Also what's happening with the wiki?
 
ElajRuengies said:
If you still held on to your Fakesaw Stocks, I think Jeff Bezos would be asking you for a loan now.
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Fakesaw on top
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Acertainbcplayer said:
Back to Fox, I'd still go with what the manga had shown which is about 10%, could be 20% but it doesn't really matter much, as large as Fox is it could lift much more that what's shown in the calc anyways
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If only 10 - 20% went into its mouth, then that's what should be calc'd. You don't base a calculation based on what a character could do, you base it on what they did.

Anywho, updating profiles is tedious work but it's getting done slowly.
 
man...imagine how funny it will be for Aza to actually hit the sun and cause a bit of a explosion on it (not big enough to be problematic, but big enough to be visible)
 
YeahhBoyee said:
Why does everyone always mentally nerf Asa, she literally punched Yoru with the Gun Gauntlet, she has full control. As for "skill/output", what is there to it? You literally point at a target and say "Bang". Even if it required skill, we've seen Asa use Yoru's own Weaponizing powers better than Yoru on multiple occasions, why would she suck at using this one?
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Punching and using devil powers is different so that's why. Bang's just something different entirely that as of now we know two horsemen can use so I think its somewhat special and shouldn't be assumed to be used equally. And we know the attack can be adjusted so that's likely what happened here, Yoru just didn't put as much as say against Csm, the main guy she wants to kill.
 
Arkenis said:
Punching and using devil powers is different so that's why.
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Nothing you said showed why they would have different output, they have the same physicals and access to the same Devil powers.
Bang's just something different entirely that as of now we know two horsemen can use so I think its somewhat special and shouldn't be assumed to be used equally.
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Its the Gun Gauntlet ability but that aside, anything Yoru (a horsemen) can use is also usable by Asa. They literally share body and mind, note the We and Our in these sentences. Burden of proof is on you to assume they cant use it equally.

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And we know the attack can be adjusted so that's likely what happened here, Yoru just didn't put as much as say against Csm, the main guy she wants to kill.
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That has nothing to do with your claim of saying Asa couldn't match Yoru's highest output.

I agree Yoru can tune her output up or down, but you have no way to prove that even happened; it also causes a contradiction with this panel (Denji saying its a big shot followed by Yoru tuning her output down?).

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Also the projectile she fired was pretty powerful; it destroyed a building even after being deflected and losing momentum. And she cares nothing for collateral damage as she fires holes into buildings for fun. Only reason to assume its not high output which Yoru would logically use here is defending your agenda/interpretation.
 
YeahhBoyee said:
Nothing you said showed why they would have different output, they have the same physicals and access to the same Devil powers.
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Same physicals don't matter lol, its about if they're using the some output each time and like Makima they can control the output.

YeahhBoyee said:
That has nothing to do with your claim of saying Asa couldn't match Yoru's highest output.
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Didn't say that, I said I doubt they have the same output.

YeahhBoyee said:
Also the projectile she fired was pretty powerful; it destroyed a building even after being deflected and losing momentum. And she cares nothing for collateral damage as she fires holes into buildings for fun. Only reason to assume its not max output which Yoru would logically use her is defending your agenda/interpretation.
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Prove the momentum it lost was significant enough to matter. What the hell are you talking about agenda lol, I don't think they have the same output thats all.
 
YeahhBoyee said:
I agree Yoru can tune her output up or down, but you have no way to prove that even happened; it also causes a contradiction with this panel (Denji saying its a big shot followed by Yoru tuning her output down?).

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Also the projectile she fired was pretty powerful; it destroyed a building even after being deflected and losing momentum. And she cares nothing for collateral damage as she fires holes into buildings for fun. Only reason to assume its not high output which Yoru would logically use here is defending your agenda/interpretation.
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Nothing besides the Scaling Triangle Problem that would exist even without any calcs.
 
Arkenis said:
Same physicals don't matter lol, its about if they're using the some output each time and like Makima they can control the output.


Didn't say that, I said I doubt they have the same output.


Prove the momentum it lost was significant enough to matter. What the hell are you talking about agenda lol, I don't think they have the same output thats all.
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They can control the output, you havent shown any proof that Yoru did.

You did say that; you said "[Bang] shouldn't be assumed to be used equally." You even said it again here: "I don't think they have the same output thats all."

"Prove..." I dont have to prove squat, you have the burden of proof about your claims since they share the same body and brain. "What the hell are you talking about agenda lol" Agenda aka. defending your interpretation, its pretty common forum terminology.
 
you think fujimoto is doing this on purpose
he already mocked powerscalers with barem's lines, what if he's purpousfully making things confusing just for the lols

either way, we now need to wait 2 weeks to find out if fakesaw is really strong or a fraud, so that'll be fun
we should get back to updating the profiles, currently scouting for a good candidate for yoru to launch intercontinental artillery at
 
YeahhBoyee said:
Yep, but that's the same as output of guns varying between City-Block-tier and being blockable by base Denji's transformed head.
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Ap isn't the problem here, it's speed. Fakesawman's chainsaws were able to slice through the bullet, Denji left that area unharmed, so we don't know if he could scale to the output of that attack.

However, a Denji mid transformation was able to dodge Fakesawma's attack. This is the actual problem. Best we can do is go for the outlier card, considering that Denji has no consistent MHS+ feats and is mostly in the HH+ category. However, if the jump in speed can be justified, I guess it can work? Unlikely though.
 
GunshyFever said:
Ap isn't the problem here, it's speed. Fakesawman's chainsaws were able to slice through the bullet, Denji left that area unharmed, so we don't know if he could scale to the output of that attack.

However, a Denji mid transformation was able to dodge Fakesawma's attack. This is the actual problem. Best we can do is go for the outlier card, considering that Denji has no consistent MHS+ feats and is mostly in the HH+ category. However, if the jump in speed can be justified, I guess it can work? Unlikely though.
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Obviously Fakesaw Man just has really, really good Linear Trajectory Prediction (which naturally upscales Fami). Aim-parry go brrrrrr.
 
YeahhBoyee said:
They can control the output, you havent shown any proof that Yoru did.

You did say that; you said "[Bang] shouldn't be assumed to be used equally." You even said it again here: "I don't think they have the same output thats all."

"Prove..." I dont have to prove squat, you have the burden of proof about your claims since they share the same body and brain. "What the hell are you talking about agenda lol" Agenda aka. defending your interpretation, its pretty common forum terminology.
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Are you even reading what you're saying? Shooting it means she controlled how much output she put into it. This is like asking me to prove Goku didn't control how much ki he put into his kamehameha.

And what I said isn't what you said.
YeahhBoyee said:
That has nothing to do with your claim of saying Asa couldn't match Yoru's highest output.
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Never said anything about matching highest output.
 
Idk how to feel about Denji x Yoru…….


Anyways fakesawman shouldn’t pull the makima way please just make it so this dude is genuinely curious
 
GunshyFever said:
Yall are going to crucify me for saying this, but, it appears that Denji is happier with Yoru compared to Asa due to her chaotic nature.
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Nah, Denji's gotten so used to unreasonable, aggressive girls, that he's almost looking forward to it. Remember when he was disappointed Fumiko wasn't trying to kill him?

(Also a reason why he and Reze wouldn't work in the long run. Denji's a City Mouse while Reze is a Country Mouse, he'd legit get bored being with her after a while. Happy, but also very bored. Kinda like when he was just raising Nayuta without being Chainsaw Man.)
 
GunshyFever said:
Ap isn't the problem here, it's speed. Fakesawman's chainsaws were able to slice through the bullet, Denji left that area unharmed, so we don't know if he could scale to the output of that attack.

However, a Denji mid transformation was able to dodge Fakesawma's attack. This is the actual problem. Best we can do is go for the outlier card, considering that Denji has no consistent MHS+ feats and is mostly in the HH+ category. However, if the jump in speed can be justified, I guess it can work? Unlikely though.
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I fully get your logic but there are some things that can explain this; 1) FakeSaw is fighting 2v1 (presumably) so not fully focused on Denji 2) Denji isn't faster, he just landed one hit (Yoshida landed a hit on Quanxi, shortly before he got bodied) 3) FakeSaw is simply not going all-out yet. He's slowly walking towards Denji and Yoru while talking, not exactly in a hurry to kill Denji.

All memeing aside, i do not think Denji is on FakeSaw's level.
Arkenis said:
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Im sorry but im not entertaining this anymore, please go find actual proof for what you are saying before we continue this discussion.
 
YeahhBoyee said:
Im sorry but im not entertaining this anymore, please go find actual proof for what you are saying before we continue this discussion.
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You're not gonna entertain what's in the manga? You're either confused or willingly being ignorant on this.
 
Arkenis said:
You're not gonna entertain what's in the manga? You're either confused or willingly being ignorant on this.
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I'm assuming your talking about whether she used full power against fakesawman?



She used the left arm anyway right? Couldn't it just be that it's weaker than the right arm which is the gun devil?
 
Arkenis said:
Yeah. No reason to shoot a random fakesawman with full power or even amped.
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I mean, makima could control her bangs? Why can't yoru. Also I might be wrong but aren't the bullets she used against aging like REALLY f*cking big, how are they only decapitating fakers
 
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