Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[ElajRuengies]

Alright, who decided to add Fox and Eternity's pages without telling everyone else?

The values aren't accurate since the Mega CRT hasn't passed yet, and Fox's LS calc isn't evaluated so it can't be used. Looking at the feat in the Anime, most of the building doesn't go in Fox's mouth anyway- I'd use 10% to 50% tops. Also what's up with the shaped crop?

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Alright, who decided to add Fox and Eternity's pages without telling everyone else?

The values aren't accurate since the Mega CRT hasn't passed yet, and Fox's LS calc isn't evaluated so it can't be used. Looking at the feat in the Anime, most of the building doesn't go in Fox's mouth anyway- I'd use 10% to 50% tops. Also what's up with the shaped crop?

Bruh, that ain't even finished yet, I only created the profiles to make things faster later on, why would anyone add that into the page bruh... Wait, how would they even find those? Those are completely hidden on search result of google...

Crop? Eh idk how to deal with fox's profile pic so I decided to crop it like that.

For fox's LS, I need everyone's opinion on that tbh, the calc isn't even evaluated yet and I'm planning for it to stay that way until more input, it's here

 

[SlendVeny]

If she just reversed gravity he would just fall from the floor to the ceiling, sure its a big of a drop but not kill a person big


Typical retail ceiling height starts at twelve feet and up.

Idk, that person seems kinda old, old people shatter easily.

 

[GunshyFever]

Alright, who decided to add Fox and Eternity's pages without telling everyone else?

The values aren't accurate since the Mega CRT hasn't passed yet, and Fox's LS calc isn't evaluated so it can't be used. Looking at the feat in the Anime, most of the building doesn't go in Fox's mouth anyway- I'd use 10% to 50% tops. Also what's up with the shaped crop?

Fox shouldn't even have a profile

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Fox shouldn't even have a profile

Now I kinda wonder... Since public safety hunters should all have access to contract devils, why wouldn't we just give all contract devils a profile and place them into the "Contracts" section, similar to how lots of verses has their "weapon" section with profiles for the weapons? Gonna guess that it's obviously because it will be a hard time dealing with allat, yeah I'm starting to see it now.

 

[GunshyFever]

why wouldn't we just give all contract devils a profile and place them into the "Contracts" section, similar to how lots of verses has their "weapon" section with profiles for the weapons?

It's work's I guess

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Christian Cage (AEW/TNA) vs Asa Mitaka (Chainsaw Man)

Why not? Christian Cage vs Maehwa (AEW/TNA vs Chainsaw Man) Christian will be in his AEW/TNA key Asa will be in her Pre-Chainsaw Man Church Arc key None of Asa's optional equipment will be used Speed will be equalized Christian Cage: Asa Mitaka: Inconclusive:

vsbattles.com

For anyone that's interested

 

[DrGreyman]

Hol up, his writing is FIRE?

 

[Epiccheev]

Birth devil = death's womb?

 

[YeahhBoyee]

Hol up, his writing is FIRE?

posted on reddit so automatically wrong + the entire secret to pochita's ultimate power being a handout from death is too boring for fujimoto

 

[ElajRuengies]

Now I kinda wonder... Since public safety hunters should all have access to contract devils, why wouldn't we just give all contract devils a profile and place them into the "Contracts" section, similar to how lots of verses has their "weapon" section with profiles for the weapons? Gonna guess that it's obviously because it will be a hard time dealing with allat, yeah I'm starting to see it now.

In that case, the "Devils" section should really be called "Other Devils" considering that it doesn't include Contractors, Horsemen, or Primals.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

In that case, the "Devils" section should really be called "Other Devils" considering that it doesn't include Contractors, Horsemen, or Primals.

Yeah, devils whose showcase in the series are purely through contracts, they'll be in the contract section, for devils like darkness for example, we would just put them into the primal section like normal. Contract devils would also be super easy to deal with since aside from fox and maybe snake or mantis if we were to add it, the rest are purely ability. We have future devil that doesn't even have stats, curse devil whose only relevant stats is AP for the nail, skin devil that only has hax and so on. Ofc contracts that only appeared in a single panel like judgement that hax isn't even clear wouldn't need a profile. But all and all, Fox should clearly be the one to be in the contract section, definitely need a profile.

Anyways, shouldn't we remove eternity and fox from the main page for the time being? They shouldn't be there for now when mega crt and fox LS aren't even approved yet.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Anyways, shouldn't we remove eternity and fox from the main page for the time being? They shouldn't be there for now when mega crt and fox LS aren't even approved yet.

Already done.

Every day this fan concept becomes funnier and funnier in hindsight.

Been trying to think about how a [King of Dread - The Unknown Devil] would actually work, and I think the most faithful-to-name way to pull it off is with an SCP-3125 like deal, where it's a Roko's Basilisk that kills anyone/anything that realizes it exists.

The only time it appears in the story is Cosmo deciding to name drop it in order to kill herself and anyone who had the misfortune of hearing her hypothesize about it's existence based on the gaps in her knowledge, Megumi summoning Mahoraga-style.

 

[Epiccheev]

Weird question, but how do we treat concepts Pochita has already eaten in vsbattle?

Like, say, the sixth sense he erased from mankind is revealed to be the ability to see ghosts/precognition, if he fights a character from another verse with these same abilities ( granted they are similar to CSM's sixth sense) would the character just get those passively deleted by Pochita at the start of the match or we treat it like an "empty Pochita"?

 

[DrGreyman]

that would entirely depend on if it was a 1-1 comparison imo
like, if pochita was from right in the middle of the aging fight, then snow would be easy, it's snow everyone can agree on what snow is
but we just dont know anything about the sixth sense, or the star, or the other ends to life

though honestly, imagining him going up against a nazi character and the moment the fight starts 'no ww2 gg ez' and he wins
is really funny

 

[ElajRuengies]

Man if y'all thought scaling AP was hard, Speed is gonna be a whole other beast. Currently having to wrestle with how, since Human Quanxi blitzed Hybrid Miri, she blitzes Post Fear-Boost Hybrid Denji.

Like, at this rate it might just be easier to give Quanxi a Part 1 and Part 2 Key in order to rationalize how the literal Hell this is the same woman who got her nose caved in by f*cking Yoshida.

 

[Zabazab]

Man if y'all thought scaling AP was hard, Speed is gonna be a whole other beast. Currently having to wrestle with how, since Human Quanxi blitzed Hybrid Miri, she blitzes Post Fear-Boost Hybrid Denji.

Does this create issues?

 

[ElajRuengies]

Does this create issues?

Kinda yeah, because Unmasked Violence does way better than Human Quanxi against Darkness, and the Gun Fiend scales to Unmasked Violence, and Post-Reze Fight Denji scales to the Gun Fiend.

 

[Zabazab]

Kinda yeah, because Unmasked Violence does way better than Human Quanxi against Darkness, and the Gun Fiend scales to Unmasked Violence, and Post-Reze Fight Denji scales to the Gun Fiend.

This doesn't create contradictions. "Doing way better" is just a matter of not being dismembered by Darkness, which is just on a whim. Power in a sense "did way better" than Quanxi given she didn't die in the attack that killed Quanxi (she got clipped at the edge while Quanxi was in the centre).

If Violence and Quanxi swapped physical positions in that "fight", Violence would be one-shot and Quanxi would get two-shot.

 

[ElajRuengies]

This doesn't create contradictions. "Doing way better" is just a matter of not being dismembered by Darkness, which is just on a whim. Power in a sense "did way better" than Quanxi given she didn't die in the attack that killed Quanxi (she got clipped at the edge while Quanxi was in the centre).

If Violence and Quanxi swapped physical positions in that "fight", Violence would be one-shot and Quanxi would get two-shot.

That's why I said "kinda." That said, Darkness would not have had to have brought out the sword against Human Quanxi after hitting her with a scrabble attack.

 

[Zabazab]

That's why I said "kinda." That said, Darkness would not have had to have brought out the sword against Human Quanxi after hitting her with a scrabble attack.

You doubt the King of Mid-Tier and for what? She'd be fiiiine.

And if she wouldn't be fine, it's just a Fiend vitality diff.

 

[Saqphire]

Found something while re-reading CSM
https://vsbattles.com/threads/chainsaw-man-minor-asa-addition.178611/

 

[ElajRuengies]

Here's a draft of what the Speed CRT Scaling's gonna look like. Note that we need to get like 5 speed calcs evaluated for it. Can't wait to finish the scaling for this Verse so I can finally be free of VSBattleWiki again-

 

[Pearly0nsams]

Can't we just massively upscale some characters to MHS? Katanas blitz dash was joke to base Quanxi.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Can't we just massively upscale some characters to MHS? Katanas blitz dash was joke to base Quanxi.

He can only move in a straight line while doing it, and the set up of him crouching first gives a huge flag that he's gonna dash before it happens. All you need to do to counter it is see what direction he's facing when he crouches and then put a blade in front of it.

Right now Quanxi's at least High Hypersonic+ based on Yoru and Katana Man's Quick Draw reaching Pochita at basically the same time from similar distances, and even then that's questionable since Jumping Shots in Chainsaw Man usually ignore individual's speed in favor of all the jumpers reaching the jumpee at the same time (see the first shot in the Weapons vs. Pochita) for the cool shot.

 

[Pearly0nsams]

Reze Movie bring us that MHS scaling

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Reze Movie bring us that MHS scaling

I hope the animators go crazy and blows everything up (the more they blow stuff up the higher best girl scales)

 

[Zabazab]

Chainsaw Man

 

[Zabazab]

AHHHH THE CROWS REALLY ARE A SIGN OF HER! THE THEORY IS REAL!!

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Turned out Famine truly just want to save humanity one way or another huh?

My theory was right huh? Death got a true form... kinda

 

[Alexander]

SALVATION SALVATION, DEATH IS SALVATION (Fami was right)

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Aight guys, Famine now physically scales below Nail, bonkers! Oh wait, she was weakened already...

Fami for now will get death manip, Famine can die from being eaten, that's interesting. And the crows scales above fakesawman (I don't even know how to scale eating feats lmao).

Craziest of them all, Falling died. If Falling can't be dead by anything humanity has and Fami also ate Falling, then that explains how Famine died from getting eaten by Fami, Death manip it is.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Aight guys, Famine now physically scales below Nail, bonkers! Oh wait, she was weakened already...

Fauxmi saying she'll "awaken" gave me One Punch Man flashbacks.

Fami for now will get death manip, Famine can die from being eaten, that's interesting. And the crows scales above fakesawman (I don't even know how to scale eating feats lmao).

Craziest of them all, Falling died. If Falling can't be dead by anything humanity has and Fami also ate Falling, then that explains how Famine died from getting eaten by Fami, Death manip it is.

Cannibalism in Chainsaw Man (Pochita eating devils, Denji eating Makima, Death eating her sister, Fakesaw Man, Falling, etc...) is inherently a hax-breaker because this is a manga made by the dude who ate his dead goldfish out of love, so Rule of Symbolism go Brrrrrrr-

 

[Arkenis]

Dd just became t1 in the verse. Also a funny name we could call her is didi which in Hindi means older sister which she is though I’m not sure of any Hindi or Indian references for her.

 

[Alexander]

Fauxmi saying she'll "awaken" gave me One Punch Man flashbacks.

Cannibalism in Chainsaw Man (Pochita eating devils, Denji eating Makima, Death eating her sister, Fakesaw Man, Falling, etc...) is inherently a hax-breaker because this is a manga made by the dude who ate his dead goldfish out of love, so Rule of Symbolism go Brrrrrrr-

does this mean that Fujimoto also secretly loves his sister?

 

[ElajRuengies]

does this mean that Fujimoto also secretly loves his sister?

Considering that "Fujimoto's sister" was actually just Fujimoto roleplaying as his nonexistent sister, that depends on whether or not Fujimoto loves himself. So hopefully?

 

[Alexander]

Considering that "Fujimoto's sister" was actually just Fujimoto roleplaying as his nonexistent sister, that depends on whether or not Fujimoto loves himself. So hopefully?

It would only be missing that Fujimoto is also a narcissist.

 

[DrGreyman]

soooooo

falling is standard equipment?
famine and fakesaw are optional dolls lol

also falling's getup is because death wanted her to be that way!

 

[DrGreyman]

Aight guys, Famine now physically scales below Nail, bonkers! Oh wait, she was weakened already...

Fami for now will get death manip, Famine can die from being eaten, that's interesting. And the crows scales above fakesawman (I don't even know how to scale eating feats lmao).

Craziest of them all, Falling died. If Falling can't be dead by anything humanity has and Fami also ate Falling, then that explains how Famine died from getting eaten by Fami, Death manip it is.

I think the crows ate the humans used as garnish? and death was the one to eat famine and fakesaw?
honestly idk

 

[Epiccheev]

Curse devil death manip looked cooler