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Chainsaw Man discussion thread
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DrGreyman
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I am going to have an aneurysm if this goes on any longer
we're going to get the movie to come out before this gets accepted at this rate
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Used to work on Webcomic Verses; over 2 months of waiting for staff votes is the norm for me.
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Same way she speaks despite having no lungs and stands despite having no spine. Soft magic system go brrrrrr.
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She sacrificedd them so Denji could eat high quality sushi while he was feeling down.
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It was a shueisha thing. By the official publishers, not by Fujimoto or the fans.
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Just wait until the manga ends tbh, allthis ain't going anywhere with all the crazy stuff that's about to happen
Also I realize that Fami can talk despite having disposed all of her organs. So maybe that hole that she has can just kinda open and close on it's own or something and we can still hear her stomach growling despite no stomach at all cause she's just built like that, so yeah Nail ain't mountain level anymore.
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Guys, if Fami wants to save the world through death by killing everyone... Then why would she want Death to die? Is it because she'll bring eternal suffering? But no, the prophecy stated that she will bring about the age of devils, so humans are still saved regardless. What is Fami cooking? Is she just stupid or what?
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Now that I think about it, maybe Fami will return to her true form on the day of the prophecy? Like there is no reason for her to just go and kill the whole world when she only want to savor life or die, either way she did not need to do allat. I think something much bigger than just the "Death Devil" is waiting us on that day, I'm so not prepared for the cultural festival arc.
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Please god let this be the case
Let Death have a one winged angel form for when the prophecy pops
Let her appearence as Fami be a disguise beyond just her name
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Guys WE all know that fakesawman and the real Fami is the best ship in csm. WE ALL are repping fakesawman x Fami for the endgame ship
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Just seen a post on reddit (welp, there goes fakesaw, bro ain't alive anymore)
Anyways, never forget that aside from this crazy reveal, we still have Kobeni's secret contract, and most importantly is Kishibe (he will come back next chap, contracted with the pain devil and solo Death, saving everyone).
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Nah fakesawman lives fr
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Maybe it's an ability that was erased by Pochita... Imagine
Also, I think most of the verse are just vulnerable to piercing/slashing attacks, and Chainsaws are somehow extremely good at that.
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Falling should have borderline absolute control over whether or not gravity hurts her targets. If she just wants to subdue them, then it makes total sense why Famine is ok.
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Tbh that is just a stomp
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She hit the ground so hard it cratered, there is no reason to think Falling has some speed-force type thing to protect people she makes fall.
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There is, which is that she's a Primal devil and we've literally seen her do that before lol (old grocery store man who was pinned to the ceiling but completely unharmed)
If she wants to tie Fami down without actually hurting her while exerting a gravity amp on the ground itself she can do that easily. It wouldn't even be close to the craziest gravity manipulation we've seen from her, Falling can send gravity side-ways, disable it completely for herself or tie its strength to how bad someone is feeling (while also reversing it).
Plus Death (and by extension Falling, her Pokémon) clearly don't want to kill Fami, at least not for now, because Death is talking to her, sharing info and even apologized. Also Falling moved her and FakeSaw from the crater to a dinner plate and FakeSaw is still pinned while the infinitely more fragile dishware and human heads aren't even touched by her gravity amp (logically if you exerted enough gravity to completely pin down the massively superhuman FakeSaw who could no-diff Yuko before getting a massive fear amp through the CSM Church, the heads would be red stains on the ground but Falling ignores logic when it comes to gravity). Obviously she can do similar illogical feats with Fami and the ground. I also want to note how she casually finetuned her output to equally crater FakeSaw and Fami despite FakeSaw's physicals making Fami's look like an ant.
I understand your logic; "Fami tanked gravity intense enough to crater the floor, so she has superhuman dura", it would make sense if anyone else did it, but Falling could bury Fami into the earth's mantle without harming her, if she wanted to.
Idk if you watch Black clover, but it reminds me of
a character, Mereoleona, grabbing people with a fist made out of fire without actually burning them. We later see her burn darkness, light, even other Fire, with Fire. Also a character who just has complete control of her power, in this case, fire and whether it burns anyone or not.
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I mean normally fiction treats any flesh and blood character without outright invulnerability or a durability boosting ability as having some amount of susceptibility to being harmed by normal weaponry. They can get battered around by city block level punches and whatnot all day, but then they get shot n they're like "ow oof ouchie I'm just a normal guy why'd you do that to just a normal guy :'("
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Grocery Lady evidently did not crater the ceiling. There isn't even an implication that Falling protects people she gravity-crushes so that whatever they hit can be damaged while her target is unaffected.
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Grocery guy (could be a lady too ig, hard to tell) was a old person hanging 7-8 meters off the ceiling and unharmed. If she just reversed gravity on him he would have been severely hurt/killed. We saw Quanxi break her legs from a comparable fall. The fact that Fami is alive is the implication itself. Its inconceivable that the Falling Devil would launch an attack against her and fail to damage her. She was just meant to be subdued so that's all that happened. Other than this random panel which even ignoring Fallings capability could easily be an outlier, Fami has 0 dura feats and 2 chapters of being fodderized and called weak and easy by FakeSaw, so i rly doubt she has higher dura than the likes of Yuko who could be hurt by Devil Hunter club kids. If you want to upscale her anyway thats your choice, i typed out everything already & dont want to repeat myself.
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It's 3 metres max.
Not how indexing works. We do not assume a characters strength and then take that as indication of an observable feat's tier. We calculate the observable feat and then scale the character to that, unless it's an obscene outlier.
Is this a misunderstanding I smell? Nobody is suggesting scaling Kiga to Falling, I'm talking about the 9-B to 9-A crater that Kiga made upon hitting the ground (unharmed).
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If she just reversed gravity he would just fall from the floor to the ceiling, sure its a big of a drop but not kill a person big
Typical retail ceiling height starts at twelve feet and up.
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Few questions.
First of all, who wins between Darkness Devil and Makima, and why? I've been seeing people claim Makima was winning against Darkness until she had to bail.
Second of all, what does this calc hold as merit for Island level Yoru?
Third of all, if Aging views Yoru's bullet, which is Sub Relativistic at slow motion, shouldn't this mean Aging is at least FTL to FTL+? (I've seen calcs that got it that high)
And same for Pochita saving Kobeni to Makima's spear at near point blank, who was throwing it at Mach 1790 speeds or something if we say Makima was throwing the spear with the same velocity as her reaction timings.
First of all, who wins between Darkness Devil and Makima, and why? I've been seeing people claim Makima was winning against Darkness until she had to bail.
Second of all, what does this calc hold as merit for Island level Yoru?
Third of all, if Aging views Yoru's bullet, which is Sub Relativistic at slow motion, shouldn't this mean Aging is at least FTL to FTL+? (I've seen calcs that got it that high)
And same for Pochita saving Kobeni to Makima's spear at near point blank, who was throwing it at Mach 1790 speeds or something if we say Makima was throwing the spear with the same velocity as her reaction timings.
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Nobody says that. Or at least nobody in the Chainsaw Man discussion thread here, on the Chainsaw Man TVTropes page, or the Chainsaw Man Wiki.
Nevermind I thought you were gonna take about a calc that was in a blog here, because that would make sense. Actually clicking the link, I see another Discord Calc that is wanked to high Hell.
One cannot apply pulverization to a cloud of dust and act like it's an entire solid mass of stone. In addition, you can't inverse-square law within the same volume you already found the energy value for destroying to get an even higher value.
Time Stop hax, not perception speed.
1.) Makima's ultra high reactions are getting nixxed when the Speed CRT comes out.
2.) Her throwing speed wouldn't be related to her reaction speeds anyway.
3.) Even if they were, using one to calculate weakened Pochita's speed would be calc stacking, and thus still not allowed.
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I cant see the tweet and hard to check for me atm because im on mobile. will just let it lie because how the ceiling height is irrelevant the main point anyway.
It is an outlier as fami has been portrayed as fodder + wildly overconfident + called easy and weak just to hammer home the point its NOT just FakeSaw mogging her, shes not surviving a attack from Falling (like i said earlier, inconceivable)
To me the only reason shes unharmed is because Falling (or Death, really) wants her to be. And Falling could easily apply more gravity on the ground than to fami or make the gravity not crush her.
"Ok but why would i assume that?" you will probably ask,
Because its very difficult to believe Fami has physicals like that if her kick doesnt even slow FakeSaw down let alone move him. In a verse where devils primary defense is regenerating their bodies back to normal. Not even Pre-Weakening Pochita (who is wayyy stronger than FakeSaw and could fight Death and beat Prime War) could completely no sell superhuman attacks like that, the hybrids at least managed to pierce his skin (spear) and move him with their attacks to set up Pochitas position for Makimas bang.
And Fami was even called weak, to me thats just underlining that no, FakeSaw cant just walk through and no sell superhuman kicks, Fami is just that bad.
The ground cracking and Fami being unharmed falls to me in the same category as Famis clothes, a normal school uniform, regenning with her body, and also being unharmed by the "9-b to 9-a" crater, either inconsistency or there for story reasons (like "it would be stupid for her to fight naked").
Fami is just to ass physically for me to take that panel as anything but an outlier/incon. If Fami had any or gets any further superhuman feat (like kicking a character into a wall and the wall cracks) i would be fine with it.
It is an outlier as fami has been portrayed as fodder + wildly overconfident + called easy and weak just to hammer home the point its NOT just FakeSaw mogging her, shes not surviving a attack from Falling (like i said earlier, inconceivable)
i thought you were both scaling her to the crater and also trying to scale Fami to have survived a Primal attack (as in, Falling tried to hurt her and even though the attack cratered the ground she was unharmed And she also scales to the crater itself.)
To me the only reason shes unharmed is because Falling (or Death, really) wants her to be. And Falling could easily apply more gravity on the ground than to fami or make the gravity not crush her.
"Ok but why would i assume that?" you will probably ask,
Because its very difficult to believe Fami has physicals like that if her kick doesnt even slow FakeSaw down let alone move him. In a verse where devils primary defense is regenerating their bodies back to normal. Not even Pre-Weakening Pochita (who is wayyy stronger than FakeSaw and could fight Death and beat Prime War) could completely no sell superhuman attacks like that, the hybrids at least managed to pierce his skin (spear) and move him with their attacks to set up Pochitas position for Makimas bang.
And Fami was even called weak, to me thats just underlining that no, FakeSaw cant just walk through and no sell superhuman kicks, Fami is just that bad.
The ground cracking and Fami being unharmed falls to me in the same category as Famis clothes, a normal school uniform, regenning with her body, and also being unharmed by the "9-b to 9-a" crater, either inconsistency or there for story reasons (like "it would be stupid for her to fight naked").
Fami is just to ass physically for me to take that panel as anything but an outlier/incon. If Fami had any or gets any further superhuman feat (like kicking a character into a wall and the wall cracks) i would be fine with it.
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Edit: I clicked on the link. No.
It's clearly timestop, because: Yoru can kinda match Pochita a bit or at least not getting completely blitzes to oblivion with her finger gun, which would be way slower than her Gun Goddess bang (MHS+ vs Sub Rel) -> If Aging metroman'd Yoru -> Aging also metroman Pochita too -> But Aging ain't built like that as shown physically -> Time Stop is the answer.
Supported by the fact that Yoru's face before and after Aging stopping her bullet and yaps are the same, the pose and the hair is also in the same position and only slightly shifted, is also the reason why the calc above could even be possible to begin with.
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That was my bad actually, I thought that they were gonna link a calc that was actually on the Wiki, like a reasonable person, and jumped the gun. What they actually linked was another Discord Calc that makes absolutely no sense, again.
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Wait...
What the heck, I thought people were finding my calc, what the heck is this abomination? Should've clicked on the link smh smh, my bad too.
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