Cecils Segmud upgrade.

[Lgamer099_99]

Cecils Segmund is currently ranked as Large Building level and comparable to Wilhelm Van Astrea at his prime, which is of course wrong.
That's why Cecils should be At least City level+, likely Mountain level:
1) Cecils is described as one of the few people who come close to Reinhard's strength.

Ram:「If we put confidence in Barusu and Emilia-sama’s words then our enemy is of the same caliber as the Knight Reinhardt… If as said they truly are equal to the world’s strongest man, then there’s one that’s at least close to his level in every part of the world.」

Subaru:「So essentially Reinhardt is the strongest in the Kingdom and each of the other three countries have their own strongest.」

Ram:「In the Vollachian Empire there’s the First General, the『Blue Lightning』Cecilus Segmunt; in the Holy Kingdom of Gusteko there’s the『Crazed Prince』; and in the Kararagi City States there’s the『Admirer』Halibel. But each have different traits to them.]"

2) Cecils has some good feats against Reinhard.
Reinhard and Cecilis fought the first time, Reinhard easily dealt with him, but Cecilis didn't have his 2 best swords.
Next fight Reinhard drawed Reid, Cecilis had his best swords, at the end Blue Lightning lost.
In Oboreru they had an other fight and Cecils heavily injured Reinhard to the point that Puck fought that now he could stand a chance against him (when he would normally be one-shotted), The Blue Lightning even survived the duel against the Sword Saint.
Keep in mind that the ifs are written by Tappei, the author of Re:zero.

3) Murasame and Masayume should be comparable to the Dragon Sword Reid in term of Attack Potency, since they're all part of the 10 swords of power. They're not ordinary swords and they give Cecils a considerable boost.

4) Cecils was confirmed to be the strongest warrior in Vollachia and capable of defeating the entire Vollachian Army alone. Now, how strong is the Vollachian Army? Well, the other generals are all comparable to the 4 spirits, this is confirmed by the existence of Arakiya, the spirit eater, she has the power to eat spirits and use their powers as her own without needing to form a contract with them. Her power is so strong that it even allowed her to take in one of the Four Great Spirits' (Musper) power without losing her sanity.
And all the other generals should be at least comparable to Arakiya, since Crisha Gold who is noted to be weak comparte to the other generals, could still keep up with Arakiya.
There is also Moguro Hagane, an other general, who is that durable that has been mentioned that around the world, Reinhard may have been the only person who was capable of breaking Moguro's hard metal with his bare hands.

So Cecils can defeat 8 people who are at least comparable to the Four Great Spirits and the rest of the Vollachian Army all alone.
I know that Tappei said that Cecils is comparable to Peak Wilhelm in Q&A but this is really inconsistent with the other stuff, since Wilhelm shouldn't even be capable of defeating 1 Puck, do not even think about him taking on 8 Pucks.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Are we really doing this again? The answer is still no, he has multiple statements from WOG as being Wilhelm/Theresia level, and the only confirmation to the contrary is from a what if story line.

Ram has no knowledge to know how powerful Reinhard is, her statement has no value, Reinhard himself constantly downplays himself, saying stuff like even 2 Vollachian Generals is too much for him, then low diff them, Reinhard is Lugnica's strongest, Cecilis is Vollachia's strongest, they are close in powerful according to those titles from Ram's perspective but Reinhard isn't just Lugnica's strongest but the world's strongest, again not buying the Ram statement, she isn't knowledgeable on the subject.

There is nothing that proves Murasame and Masayume should be comparable to the Dragon Sword Reid , this is frankly absurd, Reid is the strongest, nothing is comparable to it, this is stated as much.

Cecilis got no diff when they fought in the ex novel, then also lost again when they fought the 2nd time, arguing how exactly that went in the 2nd fight besides that he lost, is unknown, so we can't speculate.

Never heard of this Arakiya eater, is that from the Rem If? Also the other generals being Great Spirit level is also another absurd statement since in Ex Novel 4, Julius was able to take them on, and he isn't Great Spirit level cause if he is, that means everyone in the series is, so gonna have to ask you to provide where this claims is coming from.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

There is nothing that proves Murasame and Masayume should be comparable to the Dragon Sword Reid , this is frankly absurd, Reid is the strongest, nothing is comparable to it, this is stated as much.

Murasame and Masayume are part of the same collection of Dragon Sword Reid, of course Reid is the strongest blade, but the other two or of the same rank.

Ram has no knowledge to know how powerful Reinhard is, her statement has no value, Reinhard himself constantly downplays himself, saying stuff like even 2 Vollachian Generals is too much for him

Wait, we need context here. Does he say that in general or he said that after the idea of fighting Cecils and an other general? Because this would just prove that Cecils + an other general > Reinhard, but of course if one of the two generals is not Cecils, then Reinhard would destroy them since even Cecils himself can defeat the vollachian army alone.

Never heard of this Arakiya eater, is that from the Rem If?

No, she appears in Crimson Afterglow. Cecils could also easily deal with her, so say what you say, Cecils is above 4 great spirits level.

Also the other generals being Great Spirit level is also another absurd statement since in Ex Novel 4, Julius was able to take them on

Which ones did Julius take on? I remember Ballroy saying that Julius would be a 2ND LEVEL GENERAL, so well below the 9 Divine Generals.

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

What I and Pegasus have told you like three times already.

Also, Arakiya eating Muspel is incredible vague in what she actually did to Muspel (we've never even seen the guy to see him get eaten) and how strong it made her. Muspel also has no confirmed power level and is most definitely way weaker than Puck when Melakuera, who was stated to be one of the stronger Great Spirits at the time, got wrecked when he faced the Beast of the End.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Also, Arakiya eating Muspel is incredible vague in what she actually did to

It isn't.
She eats the spirits and uses their own power like a contract, but without making It.

Muspel also has no confirmed power level and is most definitely way weaker than Puck when Melakuera, who was stated to be one of the stronger Great Spirits at the time, got wrecked when he faced the Beast of the End.

Muspel should still at least be comparable to Roswaal who was said to be equal to the 4 Great Spirits, so Arakiya scales to Roswaal.
And Cecils easily stopped Arakiya from defeating Crisha Gold.
Conclusion?
At very bare minum Cecils scales above Arakiya, who uses the strength of Muspel, who should be comparable to Roswaal since Puck said that Roswaal is equal to the 4 Great Spirits.
Enough?

 

[Lgamer099_99]

So...?
Have you already finished your arguments?
Since my scaling works, I think that Cecils can be upgraded to At Least Small City Level, and the reasons would be "easily blocked Arakiya's blows with just one of his swords, then stopped her from killing Crisha. His title of strongest of Vollachia confirms that he's Indeed stronger than Arakiya."

Arakiya should be Small City Level and the reasons would be: "has eaten Muspel and can use its power, Muspel should be comparable to Roswaal" because Puck said that Roswaal = 4 Great Spirits.

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

Cecilus wasn't even in that fight with Arakiya and Chisha last I remember.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Cecilus wasn't even in that fight with Arakiya and Chisha last I remember.

Cecils and Arakiya had a clash without Crisha being there, then Crisha had his fight against Arakiya (The Blue Lightning wasn't there).
Cecils then stopped Arakiya from attacking Crisha, in an other occasion, this stuff happens after Crisha vs Arakiya the first time.
And well, Cecils still the strongest of Vollachia, can't scale him below Arakiya, lmao.

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

Arakiya only had Muspel's power temporarily for that one fight.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Arakiya only had Muspel's power temporarily for that one fight.

Well, Crisha (who is noted to be not that strong for a Divine General), still could deal with Arakiya.

Chisha: [EVERYONE, FALL BACK. I’LL TAKE CARE OF HER NOW]

After the order for them to retreat is called out, Arakiya stopped in her tracks, still on all fours like a dog. Now she’s staring at Chisha.
They call each other’s names and positions out, and clash with each other. Chisha launches himself underneath Arakiya as if he’s crawling underneath her. Then, he struck his iron-ribbed fan towards her head with enough force to break her skull. Just before it hit Arakiya opened her mouth and swallowed a light. And the next instant she vanished from his sight.

Also, Cecils was described as the highlight of the show, suggesting again, that he was Indeed the strongest dude there.

From her vantage point the battlefield appears pretty small, like specks of sand. But Prisca can make out what’s happening pretty clearly. She realises that this swordsman is Vincent’s hidden jewel that he’d shown off to her before the Ceremony started. She comments something along the lines that he’s pretty much the highlight of the show here. After all he’s literally fighting against a whole battalion by himself."

Also, Cecils was at the very least comparable to Arakiya:

However, he also recognises that there are people who can transcend tactics and strength in numbers. He knows that Cecilus is one of those kinds of people, people who can wreak havoc irrespective of those things, and now he recognises that Arakiya is one too.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

I have two other proofs.
1. In volume 4, Felix confirms that Reinhard Is the only one capable of dealing with Cecils.

"And besides reinhard, basically no one can win against him"

This means that Cecils is way stronger than even Marcos, who Is said to be equal to Roswaal, which makes sense, since Crisha said that Marcos was really scary.
It makes sense, since Crisha lost against Arakiya, who has the power of Muspel, and we know that the 4 Great Spirits are equal to Roswaal.
So we have:

Crisha < Arakiya = 4 Great Spirits = Marcos = Roswaal < Cecils.

2. Reinhard for the first time in his life, he's telling the truth by saying that Cecils is in fact strong.

"...You are the powerful opponent chosen by the sword.
Reinhard always maximize the strengths of others. But this time the praise had more sincere feelings than the literal meaning"

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

Dunno what you'd need to cite Felix for. We know that Ceci > Marcos, but no one takes that stupid WoG about Marcos = Roswaal in power seriously, chiefly because of other comments where Tappei stated that if Roswaal was to fight someone like Garf or Wil, the winner will be decided by the starting distance. It is probably such logic that lead Tappei to say that Marcos and Roswaal are roughly equal in combat power, just like he said that a Carmilla vs Capella battle would be a narrow win for Carmilla, despite admitting that Carmilla has zero combat power of her own and makes others fight for her.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but last I remember Arakiya was, with the power of Muspel, able to block a giant **** off explosion that would have easily killed everyone there, including Chisha, but despite being able to block such an explosion, she couldn't one-shot Chisha. AP-Dura difference much?

And I dunno what that last quote is even there for.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Dunno what you'd need to cite Felix for. We know that Ceci > Marcos, but no one takes that stupid WoG about Marcos = Roswaal in power seriously, chiefly because of other comments where Tappei stated that if Roswaal was to fight someone like Garf or Wil, the winner will be decided by the starting distance. It is probably such logic that lead Tappei to say that Marcos and Roswaal are roughly equal in combat power, just like he said that a Carmilla vs Capella battle would be a narrow win for Carmilla, despite admitting that Carmilla has zero combat power of her own and makes others fight for her.

But you still think that Cecils is seriously equal to Wilhelm, when they're equal just in a swordmanship fight, they would draw in a duel like the one we saw bewtween Julius and Subaru with wood swords, but
Cecils would outclass Wilhelm with his 2 best swords and this Is highly suggested by statements in the series, like the one Ram made.
Ram doesn't know anything about Cecils? Of course she doesn't, she talks about their reputation, but if Cecils is known to be close to Reinhard It means that he has done something to have this reputation, we know that they had a duel with spectators, so people of Lugunica should have seen the fight and then they have talked about It that much that Cecils got this reputation of being close to Reinhard.
Even the author when he had to explain why Reid Dragon sword Is particular, and doesn't draw even with strong opponents, chose to use the strongest of other nations like an example, which is literally a way to say: "yeah, even with people who come close to Reinhard the sword cannot be drawn sometimes", that was the meaning of It.
The entire thing said by the author wouldn't make sense if Cecils, Halibel and the Mad Prince aren't close to Reinhard, tell me what that would mean:

Q: For Reinhard to be able to draw his sword against someone, around whose level of strength would they be?

A: There's situations where he can't draw it even against the strongest in the various nations. At the very least, it's beyond the majority of Re: Zero characters.

The question talks about strength, Tappei wanted to say that It isn't just related to strength, in fact he explained that Reinhard wouldn't use draw it even against the strongest in the various nations.
I dunno how to explain that to you because english isn't my 1st language, but the author intention was clear, he had to explain that Reid sword isn't related to power, so he chose to say that even against Cecils, Halibel and Mad Prince he may not draw Reid, a way to say that doesn't care how strong you are, even against them who come close to him he may not use that sword.
Also, I dunno why you are so sure that Marcos can't be Roswaal level overall when Marcos Is way stronger than Julius and considered scary even by people like Crisha, the one who could still fight Arakiya for some time before losing.
Oh, and there's still Moguro Hagane, an other general, who is that durable that has been mentioned that around the world, Reinhard may have been the only person who was capable of breaking Moguro's hard metal.
The generals of Vollachia are just insane and Cecils is easily way stronger than all of them, including Arakiya.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but last I remember Arakiya was, with the power of Muspel, able to block a giant **** off explosion that would have easily killed everyone there, including Chisha

The explotion could have killed a beaten-up Crisha, who still should just partially scale to Arakiya and not completely.
But remember that Crisha is likely the weakest general, since he admits that he's not that strong but stil kept his general's position.