Carnage Updates

[Ascha'Vovina]

In the years since Absolute Carnage, Cletus Kasady and the Carnage symbiote have parted ways and cultivated their own sets of powers.

Cletus Kasady bonded to the Extrembiote (a symbiote dragon augmented by Extremis nanites by Iron Man) and stayed on Earth:

While the Carnage symbiote decided to steal a bunch of powers from a bunch of super-villains, forge its own Necrosword-type weapon, and is currently hunting Venoms across the Multiverse in order to purge its weaknesses, with the end goal of usurping the throne of King in Black from Earth-616's Eddie Brock:

Should these forms not be covered on the Carnage (Marvel Comics) page, and if so how should they be handled?

 

[Antvasima]

@Emirp sumitpo @Armorchompy @M3X_2.0 @LordTracer @KLOL506

 

[KLOL506]

I wouldn't know, haven't read comics in over half a decade.

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah, I haven’t touched Marvel since 2020.

 

[M3X_2.0]

You need to gather feats from both of these versions. It would be helpful in order to know how to handle both of them.

 

[Ascha'Vovina]

Feats... OK,

Extreme Carnage (Cletus Kasady)

• The result of Cletus Kasady's "codex" indwelling the Extrembiote--a fusion between an Extremis-mutated symbiote dragon and an Iron Man Model 70 suit
• As a symbiote dragon, the Extrembiote should have all the feats associated with the Grendel and its ilk
• Cletus can use a fragment of Knull's power he inherited from Absolute Carnage to impose his will on other symbiotes, corrupting and even outright controlling them, though it's possible for the symbiotes and/or their hosts to resist.
• Can use the Extrembiote to read people's memories via a sample of their blood
• Can merge the Extrembiote with buildings to create elaborate illusions
• Can create duplicates of himself and shapeshift them to resemble other people
• Survived the assimilated armour's RT Node being overloaded by a Venom Strike from Spider-Man (Miles Morales), which created an explosion powerful enough to turn a diner into a crater.
• Can create plasma constructs using the RT nodes on the assimilated Iron Man suit
• When powered up, can hack into Stark Industries' communications network
• Can broadcast a signal that turns anyone who hears it into a bloodthirsty berserker under Cletus' control
• Can infect people with offshoots of the Extrembiote, which can merge with technology to create cyborg symbiotes under Cletus' control
• Can assimilate other technology into the Extrembiote--replacing the damaged Iron Man armor with a Mark II Stark Sentinel
• Strong enough to tear through Mark II Stark Sentinels modified to combat the Extrembiote
• After upgrading, could withstand and absorb Miles Morales' full-power Venom Strike
• Speed-blitzed the Scorpion, Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Taskmaster, and Electro (Francine Frye)
• Can transform into an armoured symbiote-dragon
• Iron Man--whose Dragonslayer Armor was created for the express purpose of slaying the Extrembiote--blasted him with everything his suit had, requiring Miles to recharge it with his Venom Strike, and Extreme Carnage got back up like it was nothing.
• Can fire energy beams powerful enough to push back Iron Man from its mouth
• Took a Hail Mary plan from Iron Man turning his suit into an EMP to defeat it, but even then a piece survived and was able to regenerate

God-Butcher Carnage

• The Carnage symbiote resurrected by assimilating a piece of the Grendel symbiote-dragon
• Its very existence taints the Web of Life and Destiny, corrupting the strands into tendrils of red and black slime
• Can infect others with offshoots of itself either under its direct control or indwelled by a copy of Cletus Kasady's consciousness
• Ripped out Hydro-Man's core and assimilated it--effects never specified, but gave it the ability to create red lightning and appears to have augmented its ability to stay in its humanoid form sans host
• Dismembered the Spot; tore off and absorbed one of his Darkforce portals, letting him access the Spotted Dimension to teleport and create portals
• Easily killed and reanimated Kilereth, Morveita, Y'Dreis, and Varuen (Dark Elves belonging to the Black Bile Clan); laughed off a fireball spell cast by the latter.
• Mind-bombed the Rosvelg, a god whose duty is to punish sinners by performing an oratory version of the Penance Stare, driving it insane and causing it to lapse into a coma.
• Defeated Malekith the Accursed and extracted his Venom/All-Black codex
• Survived being engulfed in the plasma of magical stars used to smelt uru for a prolonged period, though it caused the symbiote extreme pain and would've ultimately killed it
• Assimilated uru by consuming the corpses of dead dwarves--becoming able to withstand stellar plasma in the process--and used it to create All-Blood the Necrospear, a divine weapon on-par with Mjolnir, Gungnir, and All-Black the Necrosword
  • All-Blood was stated to have the same properties as All-Black; can seemingly negate healing factors, and can one-shot gods and cosmic entities
• Travelled the Multiverse testing and honing its new powers by hunting and killing variants of Venom, assimilating their symbiotes if it thought they would augment it:
  • Absorbed Powers: Wolverine (Laura Kinney)'s healing factor, Ant-Man's size-shifting, Mania's Hell-Mark (letting it conjure hellfire and summon demons, and making it immune to flames), Shriek's sonic powers (making it immune to sonics), Venoman-Thing's empathic corrosive touch, Anti-Carnage's antibodies (making it immune to anti-symbiotes), the Silver Surfer's Power Cosmic, Knull's King in Black/Necro-Power
• Fought evenly with Knull (though Knull wasn't using the full extent of his power), and one-shot him by impaling him from behind with All-Blood

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Feats... OK,

Extreme Carnage (Cletus Kasady)

• The result of Cletus Kasady's "codex" indwelling the Extrembiote--a fusion between an Extremis-mutated symbiote dragon and an Iron Man Model 70 suit
• As a symbiote dragon, the Extrembiote should have all the feats associated with the Grendel and its ilk
• Cletus can use a fragment of Knull's power he inherited from Absolute Carnage to impose his will on other symbiotes, corrupting and even outright controlling them, though it's possible for the symbiotes and/or their hosts to resist.
• Can use the Extrembiote to read people's memories via a sample of their blood
• Can merge the Extrembiote with buildings to create elaborate illusions
• Can create duplicates of himself and shapeshift them to resemble other people
• Survived the assimilated armour's RT Node being overloaded by a Venom Strike from Spider-Man (Miles Morales), which created an explosion powerful enough to turn a diner into a crater.
• Can create plasma constructs using the RT nodes on the assimilated Iron Man suit
• When powered up, can hack into Stark Industries' communications network
• Can broadcast a signal that turns anyone who hears it into a bloodthirsty berserker under Cletus' control
• Can infect people with offshoots of the Extrembiote, which can merge with technology to create cyborg symbiotes under Cletus' control
• Can assimilate other technology into the Extrembiote--replacing the damaged Iron Man armor with a Mark II Stark Sentinel
• Strong enough to tear through Mark II Stark Sentinels modified to combat the Extrembiote
• After upgrading, could withstand and absorb Miles Morales' full-power Venom Strike
• Speed-blitzed the Scorpion, Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Taskmaster, and Electro (Francine Frye)
• Can transform into an armoured symbiote-dragon
• Iron Man--whose Dragonslayer Armor was created for the express purpose of slaying the Extrembiote--blasted him with everything his suit had, requiring Miles to recharge it with his Venom Strike, and Extreme Carnage got back up like it was nothing.
• Can fire energy beams powerful enough to push back Iron Man from its mouth
• Took a Hail Mary plan from Iron Man turning his suit into an EMP to defeat it, but even then a piece survived and was able to regenerate

God-Butcher Carnage

• The Carnage symbiote resurrected by assimilating a piece of the Grendel symbiote-dragon
• Its very existence taints the Web of Life and Destiny, corrupting the strands into tendrils of red and black slime
• Can infect others with offshoots of itself either under its direct control or indwelled by a copy of Cletus Kasady's consciousness
• Ripped out Hydro-Man's core and assimilated it--effects never specified, but gave it the ability to create red lightning and appears to have augmented its ability to stay in its humanoid form sans host
• Dismembered the Spot; tore off and absorbed one of his Darkforce portals, letting him access the Spotted Dimension to teleport and create portals
• Easily killed and reanimated Kilereth, Morveita, Y'Dreis, and Varuen (Dark Elves belonging to the Black Bile Clan); laughed off a fireball spell cast by the latter.
• Mind-bombed the Rosvelg, a god whose duty is to punish sinners by performing an oratory version of the Penance Stare, driving it insane and causing it to lapse into a coma.
• Defeated Malekith the Accursed and extracted his Venom/All-Black codex
• Survived being engulfed in the plasma of magical stars used to smelt uru for a prolonged period, though it caused the symbiote extreme pain and would've ultimately killed it
• Assimilated uru by consuming the corpses of dead dwarves--becoming able to withstand stellar plasma in the process--and used it to create All-Blood the Necrospear, a divine weapon on-par with Mjolnir, Gungnir, and All-Black the Necrosword
  • All-Blood was stated to have the same properties as All-Black; can seemingly negate healing factors, and can one-shot gods and cosmic entities
• Travelled the Multiverse testing and honing its new powers by hunting and killing variants of Venom, assimilating their symbiotes if it thought they would augment it:
  • Absorbed Powers: Wolverine (Laura Kinney)'s healing factor, Ant-Man's size-shifting, Mania's Hell-Mark (letting it conjure hellfire and summon demons, and making it immune to flames), Shriek's sonic powers (making it immune to sonics), Venoman-Thing's empathic corrosive touch, Anti-Carnage's antibodies (making it immune to anti-symbiotes), the Silver Surfer's Power Cosmic, Knull's King in Black/Necro-Power
• Fought evenly with Knull (though Knull wasn't using the full extent of his power), and one-shot him by impaling him from behind with All-Blood

Not that I don't believe you but when staff ask for Feats, that usually means to bring scans for these too.

 

[Ascha'Vovina]

I'll see what I can scrounge up when I have time. This is gonna take a while.

 

[Ascha'Vovina]

How's this for scans?

Extreme Carnage (Cletus Kasady)

• The result of Cletus Kasady's "codex" indwelling the Extrembiote--a fusion between an Extremis-mutated symbiote dragon and an Iron Man Model 70 suit
  
  
  
  
  
• As a symbiote dragon, the Extrembiote should have all the feats associated with the Grendel and its ilk, as well as the Iron Man Armor Model 70 or Stark Sentinel Mark II depending on what it's merged with
• Cletus can use a fragment of Knull's power he inherited from Absolute Carnage to impose his will on other symbiotes, corrupting and even outright controlling them (shown below are the Carnageized versions of the Scream, Agony, Phage, Riot, and Lasher symbiotes), though it's possible for the symbiotes and/or their hosts to resist.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Can use the Extrembiote to read people's memories via a sample of their blood
• Can merge the Extrembiote with buildings and reshape their interior at-will
  
  
• Can create duplicates of himself and shapeshift them to resemble other people
  
  
• Survived the assimilated Iron Man armour's RT Node/Arc Reactor being overloaded by a Venom Strike from Spider-Man (Miles Morales), which created an explosion powerful enough to turn a diner into a crater.
  
  
• Can create plasma constructs using the RT nodes on the assimilated Iron Man suit, and coat them in symbiote matter to augment them further
  
  
• When powered up, can hack into Stark Industries' communications network
  
  
  
  
  
• Can broadcast a signal that turns anyone who hears it into a bloodthirsty berserker under Cletus' control
  
  
  
• Can infect people with offshoots of the Extrembiote, which can merge with technology to create cyborg symbiotes under Cletus' control
  
  
• Can assimilate other technology into the Extrembiote--replacing the damaged Iron Man Model 70 armor with a Mark II Stark Sentinel
  
  

 

[Ascha'Vovina]

• Mind-bombed the Rascal Symbiote (which is an offshoot of Eddie Brock's Bedlam persona and should thus be more powerful than the average symbiote), causing it to become more feral and aggressive as a result
  
  
  
  
  
• Strong enough to tear through Mark II Stark Sentinels modified to combat the Extrembiote
  
  
• After merging with the Stark Sentinel Mark II, could withstand and absorb Miles Morales' full-power Venom Strike
  
  
• Kept up with and tanked attacks from the Scorpion, Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Taskmaster, and Electro (Francine Frye) -- whose powers are identical to Max Dillon's
  
  
  
  
• Can transform into an armoured symbiote-dragon
  
  
  
• Iron Man--whose Dragonslayer Armor was created for the express purpose of slaying the Extrembiote--blasted him with everything his suit had, requiring Miles to recharge it with his Venom Strike, and Extreme Carnage got back up like it was nothing.
  
  
  
• Can withstand being blasted by Iron Man and Iron Spider's Repulsor beams, and fire energy beams powerful enough to slam them into the ground hard enough to crater it from its mouth
  
  
• Tanked an Iron Spider-augmented Venom Strike from Miles and said it tickled
  
  
• Took a Hail Mary plan from Iron Man flying his Dragonslayer Suit into the Extrembiote's chest and using it as an EMP to defeat it, but even then a piece survived and was able to regenerate
  
  
  
  

 

[Ascha'Vovina]

God-Butcher Carnage

• The Carnage symbiote resurrected by assimilating a piece of the Grendel symbiote-dragon, imbuing it with some of Knull's power
  
  
  
• Its very existence taints the Web of Life and Destiny, corrupting the strands into tendrils of red and black slime
  
  
• Can infect others with offshoots of itself either under its direct control or indwelled by a copy of Cletus Kasady's consciousness
  
  
• Restrained and subdued Hydro-Man despite him being made of living water, then ripped out his core and assimilated it--effects never specified, but seemingly gave it the ability to create red lightning and appears to have augmented its ability to stay in its humanoid form sans host
  
  
  
• Tore the Spot to shreds and absorbed one of his Darkforce portals, letting him access the Spotted Dimension to teleport and create portals
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Easily killed and reanimated Kilereth, Morveita, Y'Dreis, and Varuen (Dark Elves belonging to the Black Bile Clan); laughed off a fire-blast spell cast by the latter.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Mind-bombed the Rosvelg, a god whose duty is to punish sinners by performing an oratory version of the Penance Stare, driving it insane and causing it to lapse into a coma.
  
  
  
  
• Defeated Malekith the Accursed and extracted his Venom/All-Black codex
  
  
  

 

[Ascha'Vovina]

• Massacred the surviving dwarves of Nidavellir
  
  
• Survived being engulfed in the plasma of magical stars used to smelt uru and imbue divine weapons with planet-destroying power for a prolonged period, though it caused the symbiote extreme pain and would've ultimately killed it
  
  
  
• Assimilated uru by consuming the corpses of dead dwarves--becoming able to withstand the power of the magical stellar plasma in the process--and used it to create All-Blood the Necrospear, a divine weapon on-par with Mjolnir, Gungnir, and All-Black the Necrosword. All-Blood was intended to have the same properties as All-Black (and was even initially intended to be a sword), and can seemingly negate healing factors (as seen with Venomized Wolverine) and immortality, letting Carnage kill beings as powerful as gods and cosmic entities with a single stab (as seen with the Silver Surfer and Knull).
  
  
  
  
  
• Travelled the Multiverse testing and honing its new powers by hunting and killing dozens of variants of Venom, assimilating their symbiotes if it thought they would augment it (including the likes of King-Pain (Wilson Fisk) and a Venomized Bodega Bandit):
  • Absorbed Powers: Wolverine (Laura Kinney)'s healing factor, Ant-Man's size-shifting, Mania's Hell-Mark (letting it conjure hellfire and summon demons, and making it immune to flames), Electro's electrokinesis, Shriek's sonic powers (making it immune to sonics), Man-Thing's empathic corrosive touch, Anti-Carnage's antibodies (making it immune to anti-symbiotes), the Silver Surfer's Power Cosmic, and Knull's King in Black/Necro-Power (which also should technically give it all of Eddie Brock's current set of powers, such as mental time-travel and temporal duplicate/offshoot creation).
    
    
• Fought evenly with Knull (though Knull wasn't using the full extent of his power) and instantaneously healed from being cut in half by All-Black (which can slay gods per Gorr the God Butcher and Knull's feats); withstood being blasted with a beam of Necro-Power without injury; though they took time out to kill Captain America (impaled by Carnage's arm-blade), Magneto (decapitated by Knull using All-Black), Thor (cut in half by Knull using All-Black), Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Clea the Sorceress Supreme (all one-shot by being impaled by Carnage's tendrils)
  
  
  
• Decapitated a symbiote-controlled Celestial with a single slash after growing to match it in height
  
  
• Killed Knull with a single stab from All-Blood, absorbing his symbiote (All-Black the Necrosword) and powers
  
  
• Effortlessly defeated over a dozen Venom variants & related symbiotes (pictured: Venom Dreamstone + Symbiote Spider-Man (Eddie Brock), Silence (Andi Benton), Agent Anti-Venom (Flash Thompson) -- who is himself bonded to a symbiote-dragon and capable of fighting with eldritch gods like Set, Gwenompool (Gwen Poole), Life-Model Venom (Eddie Brock Life-Model Decoy), Venomized Jeff the Landshark, Kid Venom (Kintaro), Venom Noir (Eddie Brock), Venomsaurus Rex (Eddie Brockiosaurus), Chaos Engine (???), Black Fang (Dilann), Host Rider (Robbie Reyes + Spirit of Vengeance), Necroko (Ellie Ellison), and Major Leagues Venom (Ed Brock); not pictured Asgardia (the daughter of Agent Venom and Valkyrie; wielding a Necrosword and Mjolnir), and a battalion of Venomized Valkyries); killing almost all of them with little-to-no effort.
  
  
  
  
  

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

That all looks good to me.

 

[Ascha'Vovina]

OK, so... what comes next?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

OK, so... what comes next?

Make a CRT and link the scans with sources?

 

[Ascha'Vovina]

Make a CRT and link the scans with sources?

CRT standing for "Content Revision Thread", I assume? Hmm. I suppose I should've posted this thread there to begin with.

Edit: Done.