Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) vs Kai (Ninjago) [2-9-0] (GRACE ENDED)

[Lloydblitzed]

Kai vs Carol Danvers (Comics). Who would win a fight?

Kai: Staff of Element key is used and he has acess to all his hax
Captain Marvel: Modern/Binary key is used

Rules:
Both Kai and Carol are limited to 4-C attacks, durability and other stats
Speed is equalized
Fight takes place in a random empty city
SBA for everything else

Kai: @TheOrangeGuy09 @TheReal7Cris @LifeRiderthe1 @MrVenomYTX @EL_xWatcher1234x @Axorandom0 @REX9097 @Lloydblitzed @Noyotix
Carol: @Suigetsuhyugs @Overlord_Darkness
Inconclusive:

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Carol got decent hax, but Kai just has better and higher in numbers. I vote for Kai.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Carol got decent hax, but Kai just has better and higher in numbers. I vote for Kai.

counted

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Vote for Carol. She has resistance to most of Kai's hax, her regeneration is way too high for Kai to deal, and looking at stamina which is weird Kai is "high" which I guess technically thats equals to superhuman, but by the justification (Parkour large distances vs fight 9 days straight non stop) she has a huge advantage, she get's another huge advantage in range and lifting strengh since he is "Unknown" while she is class T. I don't see anyway Kai could actually win at best I can see him using invisibility to stay alive longer. It's more likely that Carol just blasts him off from hundreds of meters away.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Vote for Carol. She has resistance to most of Kai's hax, her regeneration is way too high for Kai to deal, and looking at stamina which is weird Kai is "high" which I guess technically thats equals to superhuman, but by the justification (Parkour large distances vs fight 9 days straight non stop) she has a huge advantage, she get's another huge advantage in range and lifting strengh since he is "Unknown" while she is class T. I don't see anyway Kai could actually win at best I can see him using invisibility to stay alive longer. It's more likely that Carol just blasts him off from hundreds of meters away.

I mean Kai got poison and dura neg which idk if Carol can counter (Also Kai can survive a whole week in the desert with 0 water and food as a stamina feat)

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Vote for Carol. She has resistance to most of Kai's hax, her regeneration is way too high for Kai to deal, and looking at stamina which is weird Kai is "high" which I guess technically thats equals to superhuman, but by the justification (Parkour large distances vs fight 9 days straight non stop) she has a huge advantage, she get's another huge advantage in range and lifting strengh since he is "Unknown" while she is class T. I don't see anyway Kai could actually win at best I can see him using invisibility to stay alive longer. It's more likely that Carol just blasts him off from hundreds of meters away.

How Lifting Strength is gonna help? Also Kai should have same Lifting Strength as Skylor. And Carol does not have resistance to ALL of Kai's haxes.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I mean Kai got poison and dura neg which idk if Carol can counter (Also Kai can survive a whole week in the desert with 0 water and food as a stamina feat)

She has resistance to poison and as far as I can tell his dura neg is lightning based not a good ideia against someone who's main power is absorb and she also has electricity resistance, the other kind of Dura neg he has is against intangible beings not the case here

How Lifting Strength is gonna help? Also Kai should have same Lifting Strength as Skylor. And Carol does not have resistance to ALL of Kai's haxes.

Pin him down and absorb his brain's eletric synapses like she did to She hulk. What counts is what's on the profile but even if he had the same as Skylor he is class K which is way to low compared to class T. I specifically said "most"

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Pin him down and absorb his brain's eletric synapses like she did to She hulk. What counts is what's on the profile but even if he had the same as Skylor he is class K which is way to low compared to class T. I specifically said "most"

He can use Spinjitzu and push her away

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

She has resistance to poison and as far as I can tell his dura neg is lightning based not a good ideia against someone who's main power is absorb and she also has electricity resistance, the other kind of Dura neg he has is against intangible beings not the case here

Pin him down and absorb his brain's eletric synapses like she did to She hulk. What counts is what's on the profile but even if he had the same as Skylor he is class K which is way to low compared to class T. I specifically said "most"

I don't see how Lifting Strength must help. Also I should note that Extrasensory Perception and Smoke Manip/Invisibility/Teleportation/Shadow Manip should help Kai to dodge the attacks. He also should have speed advantage (not by much tho) (their base speed is equalized but the Speed Element makes him faster than his base)

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

He can use Spinjitzu and push her away

What good would that do? Just delay his end.

I don't see how Lifting Strength must help. Also I should note that Extrasensory Perception and Smoke Manip/Invisibility/Teleportation/Shadow Manip should help Kai to dodge the attacks. He also should have speed advantage (not by much tho) (their base speed is equalized but the Speed Element makes him faster than his base)

Just ways to delay his defeat. And even with that speed hardly usable since she can just fly and absorb any attack he throws at her and with her Stamina she is gonna outlast him in anyway it matters

 

[Lloydblitzed]

She has resistance to poison and as far as I can tell his dura neg is lightning based not a good ideia against someone who's main power is absorb and she also has electricity resistance, the other kind of Dura neg he has is against intangible beings not the case here

Good point. Tho if SOE Kai got Power Mimicry so if he touch her he could copy her powers and hax

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

What good would that do? Just delay his end.

Just ways to delay his defeat. And even with that speed hardly usable since she can just fly and absorb any attack he throws at her and with her Stamina she is gonna outlast him in anyway it matters

Does she have resistance to Power Mimicry?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

What good would that do? Just delay his end.

It amps his statistics + he can use gravity to pull her back

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

It amps his statistics + he can use gravity to pull her back

She has resistance to Gravity manip

 

[Lloydblitzed]

She has resistance to Gravity manip

Damn that's true

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Does she have resistance to Power Mimicry?

Isn't his power mimicry based on copying elemental powers? I don't think that can work

Damn that's true

REsistance to Black hole level gravity manipulation so not gonna do anything even if he throws a black hole at her

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

also what is Carol's first attack?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Isn't his power mimicry based on copying elemental powers? I don't think that can work

REsistance to Black hole level gravity manipulation so not gonna do anything even if he throws a black hole at her

Amber can copy elemental essence (Garmadon's power which is stated NOT to be an element), so it is not bounded by elemental powers alone. Why this can't work? I see this as a win con tbh

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

also what is Carol's first attack?

She's standard is flight, close combat and blasts depending on starting distance

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Kai could also repell Carols Energy Beams with Metal Form

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

She's standard is flight, close combat and blasts depending on starting distance

Okay

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Amber can copy elemental essence (Garmadon's power which is stated NOT to be an element), so it is not bounded by elemental powers alone. Why this can't work? I see this as a win con tbh

Completly forgot about that feat ngl

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Amber can copy elemental essence (Garmadon's power which is stated NOT to be an element), so it is not bounded by elemental powers alone. Why this can't work? I see this as a win con tbh

The description on Skylor's profile states that is only towards elemental attacks. And it wouldn't do him much good at best would turn into an infinite fight.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

The description on Skylor's profile states that is only towards elemental attacks. And it wouldn't do him much good at best would turn into an infinite fight.

Gotta fix that. Although the profile clearly says she can/did absorb Destruction if I remember correctly. Also given speed advantage and overall better abilities I think eventually Kai will make it.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Kai could also repell Carols Energy Beams with Metal Form

Again just delaying at best.

Gotta fix that. Although the profile clearly says she can/did absorb Destruction if I remember correctly. Also given speed advantage and overall better abilities I think eventually Kai will make it.

Well, what's on the profile is what counts, but again it wouldnt do much good power mimecry doesn't copy stats or the ability at using them, and doesn't copy stamina.
She has destruction and range advantage, and technically her stats amp from absortion amp all her stats including speed which means there would be no actual advantage in speed, also "eventually" is assuming he can outlast her stamina and regeneration which as I said previously would very clearly not be the case

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Again just delaying at best.

Well, what's on the profile is what counts, but again it wouldnt do much good power mimecry doesn't copy stats or the ability at using them, and doesn't copy stamina.
She has destruction and range advantage, and technically her stats amp from absortion amp all her stats including speed which means there would be no actual advantage in speed, also "eventually" is assuming he can outlast her stamina and regeneration which as I said previously would very clearly not be the case

He can copy power absorption which would be VERY useful. Also Destruction is on Skylor's page.
Kai has better abilities and initial Speed advantage. And they are not immortals or smth, what prevents Kai from using Speed Element, copy Carol's absorption and then start beating her to death? His abilities such as Teleportation and Smoke Manipulation, and mentioned above initial Speed Advantage would help him to achieve this.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

He can copy power absorption which would be VERY useful. Also Destruction is on Skylor's page.

Kai has better abilities and initial Speed advantage. And they are not immortals or smth, what prevents Kai from using Speed Element, copy Carol's absorption and then start beating her to death? His abilities such as Teleportation and Smoke Manipulation, and mentioned above initial Speed Advantage would help him to achieve this.

He can try, but power absortion doesn't copy stamina and her's is far higher, also she can just create a copy of her to fight Kai, which would make him waste even more time and waste more stamina.
And her regeneration is "Mid" higher than Wolverine saying that she is not immortal is not true considering mid regeneration can regenerate from decapitation.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

He can try, but power absortion doesn't copy stamina and her's is far higher, also she can just create a copy of her to fight Kai, which would make him waste even more time and waste more stamina.
And her regeneration is "Mid" higher than Wolverine saying that she is not immortal is not true considering mid regeneration can regenerate from decapitation.

Power absorption is a disavantage for Carol since she will be rendered powerless

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Power absorption is a disavantage for Carol since she will be rendered powerless

She has resistance to power absortion.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

He can copy power absorption which would be VERY useful. Also Destruction is on Skylor's page.
Kai has better abilities and initial Speed advantage. And they are not immortals or smth, what prevents Kai from using Speed Element, copy Carol's absorption and then start beating her to death? His abilities such as Teleportation and Smoke Manipulation, and mentioned above initial Speed Advantage would help him to achieve this.

Btw what's stopping Carol from just flying while using Kai to train her aim? And remember to keep in mind that she can target people from a planet's orbit which would null anything Kai has since his power mimicry depends on touch and Kai doesn't have self sustainance to go to space, and again his stamina wouldn't last

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Btw what's stopping Carol from just flying while using Kai to train her aim?

His Metal form will basically bypass all her Energy blasts so nah

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

His Metal form will basically bypass all her Energy blasts so nah

Which she can outlast with her stamina and power

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Btw what's stopping Carol from just flying while using Kai to train her aim? And remember to keep in mind that she can target people from a planet's orbit which would null anything Kai has since his power mimicry depends on touch and Kai doesn't have self sustainance to go to space, and again his stamina wouldn't last

Kai can spam his intangibility attacks and use sound manip on her to break her ears, and proceed to amp his statistics with Spinjitzu or Metal Form and she done for, and if she tries to flee, he use telekinesis to bring her back down

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

What intangibility attacks? And good use of sound until I remind you Carol absorbs sound, telekinisis is useless unless you can prove that he has at least class T telekinisis otherwise she can just overpower his telekinisis with her flight

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Kai can spam his intangibility attacks and use sound manip on her to break her ears, and proceed to amp his statistics with Spinjitzu or Metal Form and she done for, and if she tries to flee, he use telekinesis to bring her back down

Forgot to tag

 

[Lloydblitzed]

What intangibility attacks? And good use of sound until I remind you Carol absorbs sound, telekinisis is useless unless you can prove that he has at least class T telekinisis otherwise she can just overpower his telekinisis with her flight

His Smoke manipulation

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

His Smoke manipulation

Just delaying his defeat

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

He can try, but power absortion doesn't copy stamina and her's is far higher, also she can just create a copy of her to fight Kai, which would make him waste even more time and waste more stamina.
And her regeneration is "Mid" higher than Wolverine saying that she is not immortal is not true considering mid regeneration can regenerate from decapitation.

Power mimicry, not power absorption (Carol got the resistance to the latter). Doesn't this mean Kai can copy Duplication too? Not sure about Regeneration though because it seems less of an ability and more something Carol has naturally.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Btw what's stopping Carol from just flying while using Kai to train her aim? And remember to keep in mind that she can target people from a planet's orbit which would null anything Kai has since his power mimicry depends on touch and Kai doesn't have self sustainance to go to space, and again his stamina wouldn't last

Kai can use Invisibility/Smoke Manip/Teleportation in order to touch her. Her flying will make a problem for Kai, but he has Flying too via Elemental Dragon (one of them, again, of a Speed Element which is above base Speed so initial speed advantage once again). Also, what is the degree of Carol's mind manip resistance?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Power mimicry, not power absorption (Carol got the resistance to the latter). Doesn't this mean Kai can copy Duplication too? Not sure about Regeneration though because it seems less of an ability and more something Carol has naturally.

All of Carol's powers are natural, all of them are a result of adaptation/reactive evolution, all of them are biological

Kai can use Invisibility/Smoke Manip/Teleportation in order to touch her. Her flying will make a problem for Kai, but he has Flying too via Elemental Dragon (one of them, again, of a Speed Element which is above base Speed so initial speed advantage once again). Also, what is the degree of Carol's mind manip resistance?

Teleportation only works on shadows if she is flying her shadow is on the ground so teleportation won't work.
Elemental dragon ain't using element speed at the same time, also good luck trying to use it on space.
Don't even start Marvel has so many layers on mind manipulation that is ridiculous, some literally have Low 1-A mind manipulation hax, Im not even gonna pretend I know how far she is, but she resisted MODOK and Brood who I know have multiple layers already