Can someone explain Reality-Fiction?

[Iamunanimousinthat]

I don't really understand why viewing a lower plane, or dimension as being fiction grants such high tiering? Is it really just that or is there are some other specifications that go with it?

In the real world, we view things as fiction all the time, that doesn't mean we can affect them. They're still abstract. I can't destroy the spongebob series. The most I could do is destroy all related spongebob materials, get rid of everyone who remembers or take their memories away. But even then, I'm not destroying the series, just burying it in history so its lost forever. Something that no one knows existed still existed.

But of course fiction is fiction. A character can simply reality warp and get rid of spongebob and make it so that it never existed in the first place. This however brings me to my next question:

Is the high tiering because the character who views lower planes as fiction, can do whatever they want to the lower plane and the lower planes can't effect them? If so what is the difference between a character B than can do that do a plane that they view as just as real as them? Does that character B get the same high tiering?

 

[Vietthai96]

Just being Reality-Fiction doesn't grant higher tier by default, you need to prove that the plane that view another plane as fiction to be superior to get that tier, and sure you need feat of affecting said structure, no one give you Outerverse tier just because you living on an Outerverse plane. Anyway it is depend contexts

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

General Bump.

Just being Reality-Fiction doesn't grant higher tier by default, you need to prove that the plane that view another plane as fiction to be superior to get that tier, and sure you need feat of affecting said structure, no one give you Outerverse tier just because you living on an Outerverse plane. Anyway it is depend contexts

what’s the difference between affecting a structure you see as fiction and are superior to it, and then doing the same thing to a structure that you’re not superior to or is real?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

One scales you a Tier above sed structures size, the other scales you directly to the size of sed structure.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

One scales you a Tier above sed structures size, the other scales you directly to the size of sed structure.

but why does viewing a structure as fiction put you above a tier above it?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

but why does viewing a structure as fiction put you above a tier above it?

Viewing something as fiction "alone" does not tier you above it. I can view our universe as fiction, but I'm still not superior to it.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Viewing something as fiction "alone" does not tier you above it. I can view our universe as fiction, but I'm still not superior to it.

So What gives the higher tier?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

So What gives the higher tier?

Viewing something as fiction and having valid context that it means transcendence in some way. If I view a Low 2-C Structure as fiction and transcend it, that means I'm beyond the logical framework a Low 2-C Structure is built on. It doesn't matter if there are 5, or Infinite, we are simply not on the same level.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Viewing something as fiction and having valid context that it means transcendence in some way. If I view a Low 2-C Structure as fiction and transcend it, that means I'm beyond the logical framework a Low 2-C Structure is built on. It doesn't matter if there are 5, or Infinite, we are simply not on the same level.

So what feats are used to confirm transcendence in this case?

 

[Vietthai96]

That case by case situation, depend on context, general description can't fully explain

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

If a character A views Structure B as being fiction, and transcends it in someway, let's say by being able to do Action C to Structure B. That can warrant them to be a tier above Structure B?

So, if character D views Structure B as being real and doesn't transcend it in the same way character A transcend structure B, but Character D can do Action C to Structure B, does character D get the same tier as character A?

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Bump.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Bump.