Can higher dimensional AP negate invulnerability?

[Johner2133451]

A lot of people saying yes such as these

Post in thread 'Unohana Vs Zoro'

Yesterday at 16:50

To answer that, no. Higher dimensional AP cannot override hax, you need higher dimensional hax or resistences

Wait then why is everyone here saying Higher dimensional AP can negate invulnerability?

• Johner2133451

Post in thread 'Unohana Vs Zoro'

Yesterday at 17:03

They're DB fans, what did you expect?

Also the comment right below debunks that.

So these comments are also wrong?

• Johner2133451

While others say no

Post in thread 'Unohana Vs Zoro'

Yesterday at 17:19

So these comments are also wrong?

Yes. You are being led astray by false prophets.

To be clear, specific invulnerability such as soul-based invuln would require you to have Soul Manipulation or NPI for souls, just being 2-C ain't enough, you need to be shown to hurt souls since it's essentially a way to bypass conventional damage. Higher dimensional AP cannot interact with everything in lower dimensions, such as NEP, AE, or types of...

• ReaperAndBlues

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Post in thread 'Unohana Vs Zoro'

Yesterday at 19:00

That might need a Q&A thread with more knowledgeable members on the topic to be accepted before I do so. I can't open a closed thread cause of a one off comment (although I do agree with reaper)

• KingTempest

Not sure who I can believe in

 

[Baabasaplar95]

Don't take my word for it, but as far as I know Higher Dimensional Ap > Lower Dimensional EVERYTHING

 

[CelestialVortex01]

Don't take my word for it, but as far as I know Higher Dimensional Ap > Lower Dimensional EVERYTHING

Smurf Hax though

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Simple answer, usually yes. If a character is invulnerable to everything on a 3D level, it won't circumvent a 4D attack. But there are cases where just being higher D isn't enough, usually with certain physiologies like whacky non-existence. But in that case it's not even invulnerability anymore, you straight up don't exist. There are cases where nuking their reality can get around it, but vice versa as well.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

No, Invulnerably cannot be Bypassed simply by punching harder imo

 

[Apotheosis69]

Don't take my word for it, but as far as I know Higher Dimensional Ap > Lower Dimensional EVERYTHING

This.

its like 2-D paper drawing to us. No matter what it can('t) do, it wont do anything to/against a 3-D object.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Probably depends on context

Imagine a 1D being that has a 1D invulnerable dot in front of it. A 2D being could just go above or below that dot and hit the being without having to actual deal with the invulnerability.
Now imagine a 2D being surrounded by an invulnerable square. Other 2D beings might be unable to access that being but us 3D beings could just punch the 2D being from left or right, directions which the 2D invulnerable square doesn't cover.

Similarly if you're surrounded by a 3D shield, hell let's say your 3D skin is invulnerable, a 4D being could just punch your organs directly from a direction where it's not protected by your invulnerable skin.

 

[Apotheosis69]

No, Invulnerably cannot be Bypassed simply by punching harder imo

Its not even punching harder, its on a completely higher transcendental plane.

 

[Grgrgrgrgergerg]

Probably depends on context

Imagine a 1D being that has a 1D invulnerable dot in front of it. A 2D being could just go above or below that dot and hit the being without having to actual deal with the invulnerability.
Now imagine a 2D being surrounded by an invulnerable square. Other 2D beings might be unable to access that being but us 3D beings could just punch the 2D being from left or right, directions which the 2D invulnerable square doesn't cover.

Similarly if you're surrounded by a 3D shield, hell let's say your 3D skin is invulnerable, a 4D being could just punch your organs directly from a direction where it's not protected by your invulnerable skin.

Invulnerable organs would be safe with this logic then?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Its not even punching harder, its on a completely higher transcendental plane.

see, that would work if they had Higher D hax, not AP imo

 

[SweetDao]

The only reason a 4D being would bypass a 3D being invulnerability is because we don't NLF the latter. Simply punching harder wouldn't work if both were equal, unless specified.