Caleb VS The Saint Of Killers

[MrKingOfNegativity]

I couldn't resist. Good God, I hope this isn't a stomp

Speed is equalized and Saint is in his 8-C key. Both characters are bloodlusted. Battle takes place here.

Battle to the death.

Caleb: 0

Saint: 0

Draw: 0

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Why is the Saint of Killers At least 8-C for a feat that is 9-A at best?

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

I've kind of been wondering that myself, but his profile is locked, so I assumed it was something set in stone.

And actually, I don't even really know why that's considered an AP feat seeing as-- unless I'm remembering incorrectly-- it comes from his guns' ability to supposedly 'kill' anything they shoot. Through hax, not raw AP. (He's basically the embodiment of Death in the Preacher comics if I'm not mistaken.)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1150436

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Actually, I think completely destroying a tank was calculated at baseline Building level so it might still count.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dark It was? I thought we go by the durability of the M1 Abrams?

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Lets see, quick calc time.

It weighs 65 tons, so 58,967.0081 kg

Steel has a density of 8,050 kg/m^3

58,967.0081 / 8,050 = 7.325 m^3 = 7,325,000 cm^3

Fragmentation of steel: 208 j/cm^3

7,325,000 * 208 = 1,523,600,000 J

0.36 Tons

So slightly above baseline Building level.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Huh, cool, might want to put that in a blog cuz i think that would upgrade a few characters

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

In this case, not really. Everyone in Preacher who gets hit by Saint's bullets...well, they die. Hard.

Which brings me to the other thing; That still doesn't explain why it's treated as a raw AP feat. Don't Saint's guns have the specific function of OHKing/instant-death-touching anything they hit? (With the exception of God when he's on the throne)

EDIT: Realized the above may have been referring to verses outside of DC/Preacher. My bad.

 

[The_Everlasting]

You are correct. They're melted down from the Sword of Azrael, the Angel of Death, so anything they hit (And they never miss, mind you) die on the spot.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

I figured as much. His AP with those shouldn't be anything short of Unknown, then. The way those weapons function makes them unquantifiable.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I mean theyre still guns, wouldnt they be street or wall level?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Actually, he does have a High 6-A feat (His heart literally froze Hell), but I don't remember where the calc was on NF.

But yeah, all his direct combat is through instant death hax.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I mean theyre still guns, wouldnt they be street or wall level?

They're guns with bullets made from the sword of the Angel of Death.

They ain't exactly regular bullets.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Actually, he does have a High 6-A feat (His heart literally froze Hell), but I don't remember where the calc was on NF.

But yeah, all his direct combat is through instant death hax.

Saint of Killers vs Fiamma of the Right when ovo?

(Wait, that would actually be a darn good match...)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ah

Also i love how we're having this conversation here when there's literally a revision thread going on at the same time

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Well, from what I can see, all of the experts on Saint (and Preacher in general) are divided between the two threads at the moment.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Also, RIP this matchup. Holy ****.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hehe, sorry ^^;

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

I mean, the main gimmick behind it was more or less 'OHK VS potential Attack Reflection & Death/Soul Manip', but still.

And I say it was that because...Yeah, Caleb isn't killing Saint with raw AP. That dude took a nuke to the face and was completely unharmed to the point that his clothes weren't even damaged. (He responded by saying "Not enough gun.".)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Who says I can't brute force my way to victory...

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Well...

Bloodlust means Caleb (<_<) would be using his best weapons/items right away, and his hax items are actually treated as that in-game, so...

Maybe the match is still salvageable? Possibly?

I don't even know anymore.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Bump because I still feel like this could be fair, maybe.