Blue Whale vs Megalodon

[TugiaTheNarrator]

Megalodon

Megalodon was a species of giant shark that lived around the world from the late Oligocene to the early Pleistocene periods. The exact classification of Megalodon has been disputed for decades, mostly concerning whether it should be placed in the species Carcharodon megalodon (thus classifying...

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Blue Whale

The blue whale (Balaenoptera musculus) is a marine mammal belonging to the parvorder Mysticeti, the baleen whales. At up to 29.9 meters in length and a maximum recorded weight of 173 tonnes, it is the largest animal to have ever existed. Tier: 9-B Name: Blue whale, Balaenoptera musculus Origin...

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Both are 9-B+
Fight takes place in the North Pacific Ocean
They are 20 meters away from each other
Let the games begin!

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(Blue Whale's unimpressed):
Incon:

 

[Deadguy999]

The blue whale has absolutely no way of hurting megalodon. It is like putting a lion vs a giraffe

 

[Deadguy999]

And why would u put them 20 meters from each other the blue whale is 29m bro

 

[Greatsage13th]

The blue whale has absolutely no way of hurting megalodon. It is like putting a lion vs a giraffe

It's 14 (Blue whale) Vs 11 (Megalodon) Megajoules. With comparable speed (Megalodon has 10% faster swimming speed than Blue Whale). Blue Whale obviously has the higher durability due to sheer bulk.

Seems quite close.

 

[Deadguy999]

It's 14 (Blue whale) Vs 11 (Megalodon) Megajoules. With comparable speed (Megalodon has 10% faster swimming speed than Blue Whale). Blue Whale obviously has the higher durability due to sheer bulk.

Seems quite close.

An underwater battle is entirely different from a ground one. On ground, if a smaller character fight a larger character with similar stats, it is very likely that the bigger character will win since he will has a bigger range and the smaller character cant reach his vulnerable spots like the head or something.

But now underwater, range wont be a problem. The megalodon can swim and attack the blue whale at multiple angles. Blue whale can also do that too but he can only headbutt or tail-swing and the kinetic force will be reduced by a lot since they are underwater.

 

[Greatsage13th]

An underwater battle is entirely different from a ground one. On ground, if a smaller character fight a larger character with similar stats, it is very likely that the bigger character will win since he will has a bigger range and the smaller character cant reach his vulnerable spots like the head or something.

I understand that

But now underwater, range wont be a problem. The megalodon can swim and attack the blue whale at multiple angles. Blue whale can also do that too but he can only headbutt and the kinetic force will be reduced by a lot since they are underwater.

Don't forget about its other defense mechanism. That should make the Megalodon less able to attack from the back and make it a focus to attack from the front sides.

 

[Deadguy999]

That should make the Megalodon less able to attack from the back and make it a focus to attack from the front sides

I just found out that a blue whale’s main attack is actually a devastating tail-swing. Headbutts wont do anything and will only give the megalodon a chance to bite. Tail-swings would be hard to control and it would be difficult for a blue whale cant see behind his back.

 

[Greatsage13th]

I just found out that a blue whale’s main attack is actually a devastating tail-swing. Headbutts wont do anything and will only give the megalodon a chance to bite. Tail-swings would be hard to control and it would be difficult for a blue whale cant see behind his back.

Its headbutts would be far stronger than Megalodon's anyway so it does not matter. the tail swing. Not really a sure fire win when great whites with an edge in speed fail more times than if they to succeed in biting chunks off the tail.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Like, didn't megalodons used to hunt whales similar to blue whales?

 

[Random-Helper323]

The blue whale has absolutely no way of hurting megalodon. It is like putting a lion vs a giraffe

Uh, which one of those two can't hurt the other? Because lions and giraffes are both capable of killing each other.

Still, the Megalodon definitely has a big advantage packing that mouthful of teeth.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Like, didn't megalodons used to hunt wailes similar to blue wailes?

By ambushing, yes. But those were whales far smaller than itself. Whereas the Blue whale exceeds its size by a sizeable bulk.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Like, didn't megalodons used to hunt wailes similar to blue wailes?

Its primary competition was a toothed whale which was smaller than its modern relative, the sperm whale. The blue whale is far bigger than both. Trade-off however is the blue whale has no teeth.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Still find hard to belive the megalodon wouldn't just go to the blue whale side and bite chunks out of It's body

 

[Greatsage13th]

Still find hard to belive the megalodon wouldn't just go to the blue whale side and bite chunks out of It's body

It'd get the deep sea equivalent of a spinning back kick if it were to do so.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I really can't see It, isn't like adult blue whales have experience defending against giant carnivores to do this consistently

 

[Greatsage13th]

I really can't see It, isn't like adult blue whales have experience defending against giant carnivores to do this consistently .

Can't see what?

 

[Random-Helper323]

The blue whale isn't used to a predatory enemy as large as a Megalodon.

 

[Greatsage13th]

The blue whale isn't used to a predatory enemy as large as a Megalodon.

Neither is the Megalodon used to hunting a whale larger than itself.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Neither is the Megalodon used to hunting a whale larger than itself.

As far as we know. It does however have experience against an enemy able to fight it.

Blue whale is still far larger though.

 

[Greatsage13th]

As far as we know. It does however have experience against an enemy able to fight it.

Blue whale is still far larger though.

Yeah, and it can defend both front and back.

 

[Phoenks]

Blue whale doesn't have any really good ways to capitalize on its attack potency against a megalodon. It's a massive target and a sitting duck against a predator which is also believed to have eaten whales during its life on Earth. It can easily stealth attack by diving below the whale and then ramming at it, similar to a great white shark. Blue whale meanwhile has to basically just rely on getting a lucky tail strike against a creature that primarily attacks using stealth.

Megalodon wins like 8/10 times.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Blue whale doesn't have any really good ways to capitalize on its attack potency against a megalodon. It's a massive target and a sitting duck against a predator which is also believed to have eaten whales during its life on Earth.

More than believed. The first hint that it existed was huge numbers of whale bones with deep lacerations inflicted by a giant shark. All different types of whales, app different sizes, all over the planet. Clear evidence that something was massacring whales. Then they found the huge shark teeth to match the enormous lacerations.

It can easily stealth attack by diving below the whale and then ramming at it, similar to a great white shark. Blue whale meanwhile has to basically just rely on getting a lucky tail strike against a creature that primarily attacks using stealth.

Megalodon wins like 8/10 times.

I do think this is true, honestly.

 

[Greatsage13th]

More than believed. The first hint that it existed was huge numbers of whale bones with deep lacerations inflicted by a giant shark. All different types of whales, app different sizes, all over the planet. Clear evidence that something was massacring whales. Then they found the huge shark teeth to match the enormous lacerations.

We see that. But this is different. Since none of those whales from that era long gone, remotely compare to the Megalodon in terms of bulk (mass and size, not density). The lacerations this time around would be less impressive due to sudden increase in whale height.

I do think this is true, honestly.

Sonar. Sonar is going to negate that.

 

[Phoenks]

We see that. But this is different. Since none of those whales from that era long gone, remotely compare to the Megalodon in terms of bulk (mass and size, not density). The lacerations this time around would be less impressive due to sudden increase in whale height.

Size is not much of an advantage here as the Blue Whale is simply a much bigger target for the shark to continuously bully and bite until it bleeds out. And blue whale has no real method of capitalizing on its superior size that is effective against megalodon.

Doesn't help that megalodon has a speed advantage and is a comparatively smaller target.

Sonar. Sonar is going to negate that.

Negate what, exactly?

Sonar will likely not be of much help considering that megalodon is known to have preyed on whales in the past, which also had sonar capabilities.

And it's not like the blue whale has the maneuverability to react to its sonar signals in time to prevent a stealth attack coming from below. Especially since even it's burst speed is lower than the megalodon's.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Okay, let's look at the AP levels and size difference. Figure out how long it'll take the Megalodon to kill the whale versus how effectively the whale can land a hit in return.

 

[Phoenks]

Sharks attack whales by targeting their fins and tail. Every attack from a megalodon will make it more difficult for the whale to do anything in response or even escape an encounter.

The AP gap is not really anything on the pages. 11 mega joules for megalodon vs 14 mega joules for maximum size blue whale. (based on kinetic energy)

Blue whales primarily defend themselves by trying to out endure attackers and swim into depths. Since they are very large, most smaller creatures today can not even effectively bite them. They can also use their tail but given that their full body KE is already around equivalent to the megalodon, just the tail by itself is probably far lower.

Megalodon is completely different from modern predators. Every bite from it will be devastating. It actually has the jaw size to be capable of carving a chunk out of the whale.

Going to vote megalodon on this one.

 

[Greatsage13th]

I say-I say, the Megalodon is only 10% faster which is barely better than the blue whale, beside that, it's stamina is also far worse than a blue whale due to the severe lactic acid build up with each charge it does while a blue whale can sustain it's own speed much better.

I'd also like to point out that studies have shown blue whales are surprisingly manueverable for so much bulk. Which basically means it has no issue holding off attacks coming from most directions like the sides, top, bottom and back with this degree of control to do complex movements.

Don't downplay the tail slap as well. It is only roughly 1.8—3.0 weaker than the Megalodon's own bite force, still nothing to scoff at considering the fact that the tail swipe covers quite a lot of area compared to a mere bite.

 

[Phoenks]

I say-I say, the Megalodon is only 10% faster which is barely better than the blue whale, beside that, it's stamina is also far worse than a blue whale due to the severe lactic acid build up with each charge it does while a blue whale can sustain it's own speed much better.

I'd also like to point out that studies have shown blue whales are surprisingly manueverable for so much bulk. Which basically means it has no issue holding off attacks coming from most directions like the sides, top, bottom and back with this degree of control to do complex movements.

Don't downplay the tail slap as well. It is only roughly 1.8—3.0 weaker than the Megalodon's own bite force, still nothing to scoff at considering the fact that the tail swipe covers quite a lot of area compared to a mere bite.

Megalodon bite force comes paired with piercing damage which can carve into the whale. It's not even remotely the same..

 

[Greatsage13th]

I'll vote for the Megalodon. I just found out how small of a tail the blue whales have compared to the body size, I severely overestimated the tail size (the winged portion especially)

All in all, blue whales have:

• Better stamina.
• Better maneuverability
• Slightly higher stats.
• Defensive mechanism in the form of a tail slap.

But the Megalodon takes the win due to:

• Slightly higher speed
• Lore accurate piercing damage that is applicable in a fight which is spammable in the form of a bite.

 

[Phoenks]

Better maneuverability

Not true btw. Shark maneuverability>>>>whales.

 

[Qurbonboev]

Let the games begin!

How high does Meg dura scale? Profile have 292,494 joules(withstands other Megalodon bites) and 2.78 Mjoules(KE of Livyatan, with whom they fought). Seems serious dura disadvantage

 

[Greatsage13th]

Not true btw. Shark maneuverability>>>>whales.

In terms of body control and complex movements under water I mean. Sharks can't even roll themselves or go completely vertical when moving.

 

[Deadguy999]

Yeah, and it can defend both front and back.

Tail-swings would be hard to control and it would be difficult for a blue whale cant see behind his back.

Blue whale’s tails cant bend at an angle as large as an akylosaurus. He cant see behind himself. So 90% of the hits would miss considering this is underwater and thus a 3d battlefield. Megalodon can just bite his back or his stomach. Swinging the tail also needs much more time to do so than using the head

 

[Greatsage13th]

Blue whale’s tails cant bend at an angle as large as an akylosaurus. He cant see behind himself. So 90% of the hits would miss considering this is underwater and thus a 3d battlefield. Megalodon can just bite his back or his stomach. Swinging the tail also needs much more time to do so than using the head

I'll vote for the Megalodon. I just found out how small of a tail the blue whales have compared to the body size, I severely overestimated the tail size (the winged portion especially)

 

[Deadguy999]

We all forgot that, where does those ap data come from? Kinetic energy. How distant are the two aquatic lifeforms from each other now? 20m. Even shorter than not only blue whale but megalodon as well. They cant accelerate to that kind of kinetic energy. Megalodon’s bites ap would be much than the whale in this case.

 

[Deadguy999]

There is also stamina. Blue whale can only generate that level of kinetic energy by charging at full speed. But he would soon tire out in minutes and the ap of him would be weaker and weaker. Megalodon on the other hand, can generate the bite ap constantly without tiring out after at least an hour. Megalodon can easily out-last him.

 

[Greatsage13th]

The Megalodon does need to position itself correctly to bite the appropriate spots otherwise it'd accidentally get flipped down under when a whale who attempts to get away accidentally snacks it aside.

Does it not have the worse stamina here tho between it and the whale?

 

[Deadguy999]

Does it not have the worse stamina here tho between it and the whale?

Its since for megalodon, his bites can already generate a high ap. However, for the whale, he need to charage at full speed to generate the ap on his page. Running at full speed takes way more energy than biting. I, myself, for example, I can only run tens of seconds at my highest speed possible but can eat a meal for an hour with thousand of biting.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I still can't see the whale winning, It's survival strategy is being too big to be hunted, mewhile the megalodon is big enough to prey on It, a whale tail wip will not use It's full weight in the attack mewhile the shark that is designed to hunt will have a esier time landing bites and removing chunks of the whale

Voting megalodon

 

[Deadguy999]

Voting for the megalodon too