Bleach: possible existence eraser upgrade for Soi Fan

[EldemadeDityjon]

Soi Fon totally obliterated his whole body and it's not like Askin poison "Yeah, if I dose this and that". It's 2 hit = death, no matter who you are And it appears as EE too, since Ggio body entirely disappear without leaving nothing behind. So I am hoping if we can get EE for Soi Fon.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[LordGriffin1000]

You could technically atomize something and from a visual standpoint nothing would remain to the normal eye. We usually don't give EE unless a statement is given, and in the anime scene you used, it looked like his body warped a bit then disappeared.

In my honest opinion, I don't think this is enough for Existence Erasure but I'll wait for more input.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Thanks for the input

You could technically atomize something and from a visual standpoint nothing would remain to the normal eye. We usually don't give EE unless a statement is given, and in the anime scene you used, it looked like his body warped a bit then disappeared.

In my honest opinion, I don't think this is enough for Existence Erasure but I'll wait for more input.

Yeah I am also not sure about EE but as for her ability two hit = death. I am also waiting for other supporters give their input.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't see evidence for EE here.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[Damage3245]

I don't see evidence for EE here.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I don't see evidence for EE here.

I am waiting for other supporters to give their input if i missed any other points about her shikai abilities.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[Rebirth]

I'm neutral on this topic but in CFYOW tokinada confirms that those that are killed by her shikai "disappear without a trace". Tokinada being a reliable source as he's studied/witnessed firsthand the powers of almost every zanpakuto within the gotei 13. Take it as you will though

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I'm neutral on this topic but in CFYOW tokinada confirms that those that are killed by her shikai "disappear without a trace". Tokinada being a reliable source as he's studied/witnessed firsthand the powers of almost every zanpakuto within the gotei 13. Take it as you will though

Thanks for the scan.

 

[Theendzero13]

The clip plus tokinada statement makes it clearly seen like EE, for me at least

 

[Loyd]

Even if a character is seemingly erased conpletely with a hax i wouldn't give them EE unless there was a correlating statement (yama's bankai, that fire hado etc)

Although its possible with the Tokinada scan tho

 

[Bernkastelll]

I agree with a possibly

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Although its possible with the Tokinada scan tho

I wasn't also not sure but after seeing Tokinada scan yes it's pretty much EE. Without a trace definitely referring to erasing from existence. Also above clip I posted clearly backs up Tokinada claim.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ehhhhh I share LordGriff and Damage’s opinion for the most part, for EE we usually need direct confirmation via a statement. However, I can see a “possibly” given the “without a trace” statement.

 

[YukaSama4]

As I said in the general thread, I don't see how can this get accepted, when we don't treat those things as EE without a statement, but after I have seen Tokinada’s statement from CFYOW, I think it can work.

 

[Deceived3596]

Before i seen the Tokinada statement i didn't even agree with a "possibly" rating because i don't believe anything within the Manga actually denotes Suzumebachi being EE but after seeing Tokinada's statement i definitely agree with at least a "possibly" rating, if not out right replacing Sui-Feng's Death Manipulation with EE.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I'm neutral on this topic but in CFYOW tokinada confirms that those that are killed by her shikai "disappear without a trace". Tokinada being a reliable source as he's studied/witnessed firsthand the powers of almost every zanpakuto within the gotei 13. Take it as you will though

I think we should consider Soi fon shikai as EE.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[The_Alxhemist]

The link for the scan isn't working

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The link for the scan isn't working

Which link. All scan are working properly

 

[Teezar]

Soi Fon totally obliterated his whole body and it's not like Askin poison "Yeah, if I dose this and that". It's 2 hit = death, no matter who you are And it appears as EE too, since Ggio body entirely disappear without leaving nothing behind. So I am hoping if we can get EE for Soi Fon.

I thought she already had it weird, I would have done a CRT then but I agree with everything.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I thought she already had it weird, I would have done a CRT then but I agree with everything.

Yeah. By scans we have now. She should get EE.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[Deceived3596]

You should probably contact other Staff Members so this thread can be resolved.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

You should probably contact other Staff Members so this thread can be resolved.

I see. Wait i am gonna ask someone then.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[ricatthegoat]

I think we should consider Soi fon shikai as EE.

agree fra

 

[speedster352]

I agree fra

 

[Lynieryz]

Agree fra.

 

[Reio35]

Agree

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[speedster352]

Who agree so far?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Who agree so far?

Lord Griffith agreed and other staff are neutral. Gonna need one more staff agreeing with this.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[Arc7Kuroi]

You only bump after 24 hours of inactivity, no need to do so so frequently

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

You only bump after 24 hours of inactivity, no need to do so so frequently

Kinda busy and forgot this thread.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

ngl I didn't see the day thingies, you gucci

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[speedster352]

I agree fra

 

[Reio35]

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Ask mods on thier message wall maybe they will comment

 

[BOEGVELD]

Since when is a "dissapear without a trace'' statement enough for EE? I've seen mods be a lot stricter on other threads. I'd say give her ''possibly EE'' though, but simply EE seems a bit wonky imo.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Since when is a "dissapear without a trace'' statement enough for EE? I've seen mods be a lot stricter on other threads. I'd say give her ''possibly EE'' though, but simply EE seems a bit wonky imo.

So without a trace doesn't mean EE? Killing someone and destroying someone without leaving a trace is different things.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

So without a trace doesn't mean EE? Killing someone and destroying someone without leaving a trace is different things.

That depends because unless they can see down to an atomic level, you couldn't see the remains someone who got killed on a molecular level.

I think we should consider Soi fon shikai as EE.

Is that statement referring to her Shikai? I'm asking because I don't know the context of that scan.

If it is, given the visual effect we see it have and the statement of it blowing away everything without a trace, I'd say Existence Erasure is likely.

 

[Deceived3596]

Is that statement referring to her Shikai? I'm asking because I don't know the context of that scan.

Nah what the statement is showing is that Sui-Feng's Shikai has the same wording as the Yamamoto scan which is used to grant him Existence Erasure, so since they use the same wording as each-other and Yamamoto is accepted to have Existence Erasure through that wording than Sui-Feng should also have Existence Erasure as well.

It's more of supporting evidence to the Tokinada scan that Rebirth posted.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That depends because unless they can see down to an atomic level, you couldn't see the remains someone who got killed on a molecular level.


Is that statement referring to her Shikai? I'm asking because I don't know the context of that scan.

If it is, given the visual effect we see it have and the statement of it blowing away everything without a trace, I'd say Existence Erasure is likely.

As you can see in OP Soul itself getting erased completely without leaving anything. Tokinada statement backs up that. I posted Yama scan because author used same wording for both

 

[LordGriffin1000]

As you can see in OP Soul itself getting erased completely without leaving anything. Tokinada statement backs up that. I posted Yama scan because author used same wording for both

Nah what the statement is showing is that Sui-Feng's Shikai has the same wording as the Yamamoto scan which is used to grant him Existence Erasure, so since they use the same wording as each-other and Yamamoto is accepted to have Existence Erasure through that wording than Sui-Feng should also have Existence Erasure as well.

It's more of supporting evidence to the Tokinada scan that Rebirth posted.

Oh, my mistake. All the same, I still think it's likely EE.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Oh, my mistake. All the same, I still think it's likely EE.

I am fine with it.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[YukaSama4]

I almost finished this semester and this thread is still going on since December

 

[skippy]

I almost finished this semester and this thread is still going on since December

Its hard to close a Bleach Crt since almost no Mod on here is interested in Bleach.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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[Rebirth]

No amount of dragonballs can revive this thread lmao

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

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[EldemadeDityjon]

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I asked Ant to tag some staff

 

[YukaSama4]

Too unlucky @Nightmare_Bloodfallen

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Too unlucky @Nightmare_Bloodfallen

None wants smoke bleach pack

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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[speedster352]

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Take this to the crt promtion request thread