Black Clover : Devil King LS upgrade

[AstaDragon]

I think Half-Manifested Base Lucifero should upgrade Ls because he can stop Devil Union Asta attack with one hand so Ls Half-Manifested Base Lucifero should to 1.245101e+23 * 2 = 2.490202e+23 kg (Class Z) like Vetto Tosses a Boulder Redone cals so Complete Manifestation Lucifero section will be updated to 2.490202e+23*2= 4.980404e+23 kg (Class Z)

Agree : @M2u12
Disagree :
Neutral :

 

[CloverDragon03]

No, this only works for calcs, not necessarily scaling (and even for calcs I know some people have issues with it)

 

[AstaDragon]

No, this only works for calcs, not necessarily scaling (and even for calcs I know some people have issues with it)

How is that? I don't quite understand.

 

[AstaDragon]

As I understand it, this multiplication method can be used for cals. It cannot be used for scaling because if it is used for scaling, it will be a nested cals.

 

[CloverDragon03]

I need to find it, but I remember a CGM telling me about how the doubling method can be pretty dubious because we've got irl cases like a guy deadlifting 129.5 kg with one finger

 

[M2u12]

I need to find it, but I remember a CGM telling me about how the doubling method can be pretty dubious because we've got irl cases like a guy deadlifting 129.5 kg with one finger

I think I agree with AstaDragon
I mean, if one hand can lift 50 kg, if using both hands, it should be able to lift 100 kg.

As far as I can see, from my workout experience, even though he is deadlifting 129.5 kg with one finger, he is still using Almost muscles of his entire arm.

And another thing, deadlifting uses the glutes, hamstrings, core, back, and trapezius muscles, so The man who broke the world record didn't just use his fingers to lift 129.5 kg.

 

[AstaDragon]

No, this only works for calcs, not necessarily scaling (and even for calcs I know some people have issues with it)

I would like to ask, is there a rule that says that multiplying 2 like this can only be used with cals Can't it be used for scaling?

 

[CloverDragon03]

I'm not too sure on our rules for using such a method for scaling, admittedly. What I do know is that I haven't seen this be done, from what I've seen

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'm not too sure on our rules for using such a method for scaling, admittedly. What I do know is that I haven't seen this be done, from what I've seen

Danganronpa: Big Bang Monokuma's scepter

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[CloverDragon03]

Danganronpa: Big Bang Monokuma's scepter

vsbattles.fandom.com

For scaling, not for calcs

 

[StrymULTRA]

For scaling, not for calcs

Nvm then.

 

[AstaDragon]

For scaling, not for calcs

LS Complete Manifestation Lucifero in scaling note.

 

[CloverDragon03]

LS Complete Manifestation Lucifero in scaling note.

That's literally because half of his body was missing, by his own admission. Not because "he did something with one hand"

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I think Half-Manifested Base Lucifero should upgrade Ls because he can stop Devil Union Asta attack with one hand so Ls Half-Manifested Base Lucifero should to 1.245101e+23 * 2 = 2.490202e+23 kg (Class Z) like Vetto Tosses a Boulder Redone cals so Complete Manifestation Lucifero section will be updated to 2.490202e+23*2= 4.980404e+23 kg (Class Z)

I disagree, LS is more nuanced than one hand stronger than the other. You can only used this in vsbattle debate scaling chains.

This sort of logic lowkey shouldn’t even work for calcs, like Clover said deadlifting with a finger is dubious cuz there’s more muscles involved than just a finger.

 

[Epsilon_R]

I disagree, LS is more nuanced than one hand stronger than the other. You can only used this in vsbattle debate scaling chains.

This sort of logic lowkey shouldn’t even work for calcs, like Clover said deadlifting with a finger is dubious cuz there’s more muscles involved than just a finger.

This actually can work for calcs, it just need to be clear that the character only used his arm.

If your hand can curl with a 20kg dumbell, you should be able to curl the same on the other hand, and even curl a 40kg bar using both hands (Unless one of your hands is stronger but I don't wanna know what you're doing with it)

Anyone who's been to the gym a decent amount would know that Deadlifting focuses on the lower muscles, so obviously the single finger isn't adding much, if any force at all.

Like most things in this wiki, it's case by case, one would need to figure out whether Lucifero used only the muscles of his hands to block it.

 

[M2u12]

This actually can work for calcs, it just need to be clear that the character only used his arm.

If your hand can curl with a 20kg dumbell, you should be able to curl the same on the other hand, and even curl a 40kg bar using both hands (Unless one of your hands is stronger but I don't wanna know what you're doing with it)

Anyone who's been to the gym a decent amount would know that Deadlifting focuses on the lower muscles, so obviously the single finger isn't adding much, if any force at all.

Like most things in this wiki, it's case by case, one would need to figure out whether Lucifero used only the muscles of his hands to block it.

I totally agree.