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Should we close this thread then?
@Firestorm808 @LordGriffin1000 @Qawsedf234 @Maverick_Zero_X @LephyrTheRevanchistI think we can wait for @Firestorm808 opinion on it too. Also the staff participated in previous time cycle immeasurable speed thread should be tagged to: @LordGriffin1000 , @Qawsedf234 , @Maverick_Zero_X , @LephyrTheRevanchist
The time cycles are literally devices meant to travel through time, they dont do it out sheer speed, it is their main feature. Its a power.@Firestorm808 @Eficiente @DemiiPowa @Liger686 @Reiner04 @Newendigo @KingEzran @SinsofMan @Greenshifter @DemonicDude
What do you think about this?
But the main point is that they couldn't have traveled to the time stream without the egg which powers them up. And as we know that the time stream is a hypertimeline, so it moving in there should definitely be Immeasurable Speed by our standards. And no I'm not arguing their ordinary speed, only when amped with time beast eggs.The time cycles are literally devices meant to travel through time, they dont do it out sheer speed, it is their main feature. Its a power.
Idk or Idc about anything else.
I've done this song and dance again and again regarding Immeasurable Speed. I'm not doing it again, if other staff agree with it, I won't argue, but it's a no for me. I'm in extreme pain right now so to having some teeth removed so I'm just not in the mood, but like I said, if other staff think it's fine, I won't argue.
We better wait for Firestorm's opinionThank you for helping out. I think that we can reject this revision then.
He didn't participated in that thread due to being busy in other thread but Qawsed, mav, lephyr and griffin did rejected them but OP is claiming this thread to be based on different reasons than the previous one but I don't see how it is any different, time cycle is just being charged with more power to travel more, that's all, no statement of mechanics being any different.Hasn't he rejected previous attempts to apply these revisions?
NoHasn't he rejected previous attempts to apply these revisions?
Okay. Noted. Thank you for your explanation.He didn't participated in that thread due to being busy in other thread but Qawsed, mav, lephyr and griffin did rejected them but OP is claiming this thread to be based on different reasons than the previous one but I don't see how it is any different, time cycle is just being charged with more power to travel more, that's all, no statement of mechanics being any different.
Is Firestorm busy or something?Okay. Noted. Thank you for your explanation.
Most of the people are saying that Aca type 4 characters already have these resistances so this isn't necessary. While regarding speed, I'm only arguing when the cycles are amped/powered up by eggs and become fast enough to travel into hypertimeline and to the beginning of it with sheer movement.Fate Manipulation and Precognition Res
Does Acasuality type 4 auto grant these resistances? Is this something that's regularly done?
@Firestorm808 May I get your opinion please?Most of the people are saying that Aca type 4 characters already have these resistances so this isn't necessary. While regarding speed, I'm only arguing when the cycles are amped/powered up by eggs and become fast enough to travel into hypertimeline and the beginning of it with sheer movement.
Do you agree?
Sadly true considering Firestorm just came and left. He might be busy anywaysTheBumping is now eternal for any crt made by hell former
Thank you very muchDon't bump more than once a day. I'll get to it.
That does not help it travel to the time stream afaikSo the Base Time Cycle already has Time Travel with the Chronaton Particle.
Solid Immeasurable makes more sense since travelling in a temporal dimension with pure speed is what makes this argument strong. Even Omnitrix has solid Immeasurable reaction speed for this reasoning so I don't think it's fine to put Time cycles with eggs in a possibility rating.The Time Beast Egg gives them a power more than that, beyond even Paradox's limits.
Are both sides willing to compromise for Possibly Immeasurable while using the Time Beast Egg?
@Firestorm808 Do you agree with a solid rating by this explanation?That does not help it travel to the time stream afaik
Solid Immeasurable makes more sense since travelling in a temporal dimension with pure speed is what makes this argument strong. Even Omnitrix has solid Immeasurable reaction speed for this reasoning so I don't think it's fine to put Time cycles with eggs in a possibility rating.
I guess using time beast egg should have solid immesurable speed because of thisAre both sides willing to compromise for Possibly Immeasurable while using the Time Beast Egg?
Time Beast egg powers up the cycles hence proving that they move with sheer speed and not via any ability)
it only travelled into hypertimestream after getting more power / force from time beast egg. So it was increasing force which proves it was speed as speed can be increased by increasing power or input force
I don't see how the Time Beast's abilities directly influence speed.Solid Immeasurable makes more sense since travelling in a temporal dimension with pure speed is what makes this argument strong.
That is not the justification for the Omnitrix.Even Omnitrix has solid Immeasurable reaction speed for this reasoning so I don't think it's fine to put Time cycles with eggs in a possibility rating.
By getting powered up to travel into time stream which is a super imposing hypertimeline.I don't see how the Time Beast's abilities directly influence speed.
It reacted to the Annihilarrgh explosion which creates the hypertimestream where it has to travel accross temporal dimension right? Like creating a temporal dimension T then it does need immeasurable speed to create T+1 temporal dimension.That is not the justification for the Omnitrix.
With regard to the time cycles, do we have a clip showing that the time travel is via speed?By getting powered up to travel into time stream with sheer movement?
Immeasurable speed characters are far beyond even those Infinite speed characters listed above. They perceive infinite speed characters as completely frozen, and they can travel forward and backward in time at will. They have the speed necessary to hop from the beginning of time, to the end of time
Didn't the cycles and Beasts literally travel to the beginning of the time?
It reacted to the Annihilarrgh explosion which creates the hypertimestream where it has to travel accross temporal dimension right? Like creating a temporal dimension T then it does need immeasurable speed to create T+1 temporal dimension.
Wasn't this the reasoning?
Time monsters themselves are shown traveling through time by running. It would be absurd to say that this was done with a hax.With regard to the time cycles, do we have a clip showing that the time travel is via speed?
Sorry. You worded it weirdly with "travelling in a temporal dimension." Yes, traveling across multiple temporal dimensions also grants immeasurable speed.
Thank you, this thread can be closed.Immeasurable via using the Timestream Dimension seems fine.