Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

[PokiestPoker]

Would a dagon upscale also upscale ultimate way big or does he downscale dagon?

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Yes, but the thing / main problem was the fact Ben could absorb Dagon's energy but failed to absorb Legerdomain's. Byt that can be easily countered by the aliens' AD and separating Chrolastone into three keys

Alien Force (Pre-Fragmentation) | Alien Force (Post-Fragmentation) & Ultimate Alien | Ultimate Alien (Post-Fragmentation) & Omniverse

Nothing really implies Chromastone getting stronger after every shattering, as for Dagon's beams it varies or isn't consistent in AP

Isn't the simplest way to upscale dagon ben's statement that with dagon's power vilgax would be unstoppable?

Hollow statment.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Would a dagon upscale also upscale ultimate way big or does he downscale dagon?

Yes, upscale to low complex. Episode's script describe Dagon screaming in pain from Ult Waybig attacks.

 

[PokiestPoker]

Yes, upscale to low complex. Episode's script describe Dagon screaming in pain from Ult Waybig attacks.

Can you plsdetail how dagon upscales to LCM, i would like to know for research purposes

Nothing really implies Chromastone getting stronger after every shattering, as for Dagon beams its varies or isn't consistent in AP

Hollow statment.

Fair enough

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Can you plsdetail how dagon upscales to LCM, i would like to know for research purposes

Basically stated by Vilgax to destroy the Main universe. Which houses multiple separated 4D, and infinite sized planes.

Also stated to be "The Ultimate Enemy". Upscaling him above characters like Eon, who can Replace the Prime timeline (which is the main trunk to all of timelines) to the point where he would be the only Ben that exist across the Multiverse.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Nothing really implies Chromastone getting stronger after every shattering

Tye fact he progressively gets better and better feats every time he comes back from destruction is already proof enough. Especially considering how Ben's aliens have shown AD enough to get from getting stomped by an enemy to stomping said enemy.

As for Dagon's beams it varies or isn't consistent in AP

That's just not how it works.
The blasts were aimed to kill George and Ben could harm dagon with the energy.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Tye fact he progressively gets better and better feats every time he comes back from destruction is already proof enough. Especially considering how Ben's aliens have shown AD enough to get from getting stomped by an enemy to stomping said enemy.

need example

That's just not how it works.
The blasts were aimed to kill George and Ben could harm dagon with the energy.

George also deflected or blocked some of Dagon's beams, unless you ready to argue Chromastone >Ult Waybig

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

"Absorption gg" Aggregor vs Michael Morningstar

Michael Morningstar (Golden Form) vs Aggregor (Ultimate Aggregor) Starting distance is 10 meters

vsbattles.com

 

[Robo432343]

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should i make a thread to apply the new speed ratings for the verse

 

[GeneralSol16]

should i make a thread to apply the new speed ratings for the verse

There are no new speed ratijgs, and we're still working on the blog that was agreed in the thread.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

should i make a thread to apply the new speed ratings for the verse

You know, if you make it, you could end up violating a rule or something like that, since the staff have agreed that Firestorm is the one who should make the thread. So you shouldn't make anything. Also, the staff don't agree with your thread; they only agree that some characters shouldn't scale to MFTL.

 

[Lort15]

Argos VS Alien X

Argos has Red Moon The fight place takes in empty Paris at night Starting Distance is 20 meters Alien X strongest key is being used Speed is equalized Both has prior knowledge Argos (Miraculous) Attack Potency: 151.025 Kilotons (High 7-C) Durability: 151.025 Kilotons Lifting Strength: 8.797...

vsbattles.com

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Speaking of speed, Why Ultimate Kevin wasn't granted Immeasurable Speed? The Wiki it self don't accept that he acquired MOI from Aggregor

 

[Alexander]

Speaking of speed, Why Ultimate Kevin wasn't granted Immeasurable Speed? The Wiki it self don't accept that he acquired MOI from Aggregor

Good question...........................................................................we don't know

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Speaking of speed, Why Ultimate Kevin wasn't granted Immeasurable Speed? The Wiki it self don't accept that he acquired MOI from Aggregor

If I had to guess, probably because it’s an outlier.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Speaking of speed, Why Ultimate Kevin wasn't granted Immeasurable Speed? The Wiki it self don't accept that he acquired MOI from Aggregor

Too ambiguous to use, we are not Marvel or DC to use out of context feats.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Good question...........................................................................we don't know

So should we try or Nah?

If I had to guess, probably because it’s an outlier.

Similarly, Rusbucket III kinda did the same

Too ambiguous to use, we are not Marvel or DC to use out of context feats.

How? The Wiki itself rejected the argument of Kevin using Map of infinity

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Speaking of speed, Why Ultimate Kevin wasn't granted Immeasurable Speed? The Wiki it self don't accept that he acquired MOI from Aggregor

Wouldn't that result in essentially the entire cast being chainscaled to Immeasurable speed, from Spidermonkey to Grampa Max?

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Wouldn't that result in essentially the entire cast being chainscaled to Immeasurable speed, from Spidermonkey to Grampa Max?

The Chainscaling is already a mess in Ben 10.

 

[Alexander]

Wouldn't that result in essentially the entire cast being chainscaled to Immeasurable speed, from Spidermonkey to Grampa Max?

I mean is not like you can't try and deny that feat anyway...we are entering into messes.