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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

My my.... someone's hasty. I'm getting so many Gmail messages.
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Are there any other instances of base Gwen being able to affect more powerful beings than the base cast? Examples like her amping Chromastone against Dagon, or Ben implying Gwen only lost against Way Big because she didn’t want to hurt him.
 
Let's take humans from One Punch Man or One Piece for example
omnitrix already have human DNA so the DNA must be replaced if it wants to be taken from another human, if you take the human DNA from saitama it would also copy its tier and powers like how ultimatrix copied nrgs armor even it wasn't connected with his DNA
 
omnitrix already have human DNA so the DNA must be replaced if it wants to be taken from another human, if you take the human DNA from saitama it would also copy its tier and powers like how ultimatrix copied nrgs armor even it wasn't connected with his DNA
Although could the DNA of humans from the two verses I mentioned be different enough to classify as its own species of alien?
 
Although could the DNA of humans from the two verses I mentioned be different enough to classify as its own species of alien?
i don't think so? it would be still classified as human prob (i mean humans in ben 10 is already 4-B which is crazy so i don't think it would be classified as alien from another verse)
 
So, guys, now that Ben is both Tier 6 and 4, I have some ideas for matches.

  • Izuku Midoriya vs Ben 10 (Original Series)
  • Darkseid (New 52) vs Vilgax (Alien Force)
  • Saitama / Cosmic Garou vs Ben 10 (Omniverse)
  • Eggman and his Empire (Adventure) vs Ben 10 (Omniverse)
  • Majin Buu (DBZ: Manga) vs Ben 10 (Omniverse)
 
So, guys, now that Ben is both Tier 6 and 4, I have some ideas for matches.

  • Izuku Midoriya vs Ben 10 (Original Series)
  • Darkseid (New 52) vs Vilgax (Alien Force)
  • Saitama / Cosmic Garou vs Ben 10 (Omniverse)
  • Eggman and his Empire (Adventure) vs Ben 10 (Omniverse)
  • Majin Buu (DBZ: Manga) vs Ben 10 (Omniverse)
Izuku is ripping Ben apart.
 
But at the same time, it happened. At that point, it's a question of how you handle the inconsistent portrayals. I think most other places would just put anything like that as serious narrative breaking "outliers", since there are too many plot points that just fall apart by having that power level. Still, it's a problem for the writers to have written the series like that, even if more often than not, it is just a case of production being hard.
Genuinely curious, what plot points do you think the AF trio being this strong breaks?
 
Are there any other instances of base Gwen being able to affect more powerful beings than the base cast? Examples like her amping Chromastone against Dagon, or Ben implying Gwen only lost against Way Big because she didn’t want to hurt him.
base OV Gwen upscales from UAF Anodite Gwen
 
Genuinely curious, what plot points do you think the AF trio being this strong breaks?
Every time there's a very clear power level depicted that goes against that narrative. Case in point, the laser lances that Kevin sold to the Forever Knights have a very direct power output that is nowhere near that level, and it's still seen as something impressive as a basic weapon. Or when Max used a Null Void Projector as a hand grenade with a radius of half a mile, and Gwen had to protect her, Ben and Kevin, and believed Max would have died from it. Or, every time there's damage in the environment that is seen as dangerous to half the cast if a boulder falls upon them, or they use them to protect from enemy blasts. Unless all of Bellwood somehow has durability around the cast... except for when they are hit by the laser lances that have a very direct output of 0.6 terawatts.

And this doesn't even go for speed, like, what would be the point of close to light speed technology being seen as impressive if humans are massively faster than light by themselves like, if they can move at those speeds naturally, what even is the point of warp technology being seen as impressive and necessary.

Even just as a practical means, it would be meaningless for something like Sub-Energy to be seen as impressive if a single blast from any alien produces supernova levels of power. A single Nosedeenian would already produce more energy than it has for generations.
 
Every time there's a very clear power level depicted that goes against that narrative. Case in point, the laser lances that Kevin sold to the Forever Knights have a very direct power output that is nowhere near that level, and it's still seen as something impressive as a basic weapon. Or when Max used a Null Void Projector as a hand grenade with a radius of half a mile, and Gwen had to protect her, Ben and Kevin, and believed Max would have died from it. Or, every time there's damage in the environment that is seen as dangerous to half the cast if a boulder falls upon them, or they use them to protect from enemy blasts. Unless all of Bellwood somehow has durability around the cast... except for when they are hit by the laser lances that have a very direct output of 0.6 terawatts.

And this doesn't even go for speed, like, what would be the point of close to light speed technology being seen as impressive if humans are massively faster than light by themselves like, if they can move at those speeds naturally, what even is the point of warp technology being seen as impressive and necessary.

Even just as a practical means, it would be meaningless for something like Sub-Energy to be seen as impressive if a single blast from any alien produces supernova levels of power. A single Nosedeenian would already produce more energy than it has for generations.
I see, most of my responses to those things would be to upscale the energy levels or the sun lol (there is supporting evidence for these things), but I can see why if you didn’t do that, you would see it as a problem.

The Null Void Projector can just have limited AoE, like basically everything in Ben 10.

Fair enough on the boulders but I don’t remember a lot of occassions for those being relevant.

Oh and lightspeed just upscales, there’s multiple statements which support this.

Most of what you said applies to aliens as well and not just humans btw.
 
I just noticed that both times Kevin mutated after they become friends Ben uses all his OP aliens against his friends but always uses comparatively weaker ones against Kevin.

Like he used Way Big against Gwen, Atomix, Feedback and ******* Alien X against the Plumber Kids and the Rooters. Yet against Ultimate Kevin he used weaker aliens, used Ultimate Humungousaur, then used even weaker aliens until he used Ultimate Echo Echo...and then he used Kickin' Hawk and Swampfire when Kevin attacked him.
 
I just noticed that both times Kevin mutated after they become friends Ben uses all his OP aliens against his friends but always uses comparatively weaker ones against Kevin.

Like he used Way Big against Gwen, Atomix, Feedback and ******* Alien X against the Plumber Kids and the Rooters. Yet against Ultimate Kevin he used weaker aliens, used Ultimate Humungousaur, then used even weaker aliens until he used Ultimate Echo Echo...and then he used Kickin' Hawk and Swampfire when Kevin attacked him.
They be homies like dat.
 
Ben against his other friends:By the time I'm done with you will hate your mother for giving you life.

Ben against Kevin:Oh shit what if I hurt him too bad? Maybe if I attack him softly I can incapacitate him painlessly.
 
Ben against his other friends:By the time I'm done with you will hate your mother for giving you life.

Ben against Kevin:Oh shit what if I hurt him too bad? Maybe if I attack him softly I can incapacitate him painlessly.
I don't know man, he nearly packed him up as Ultimate Echo Echo.
 
Ben against his other friends:By the time I'm done with you will hate your mother for giving you life.

Ben against Kevin:Oh shit what if I hurt him too bad? Maybe if I attack him softly I can incapacitate him painlessly.
🤣🤣
We he did nearly killed him.
 
Here is my cope to what u said:
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Bro got his goofball license taken 😭🙏
 
I don't know man, he nearly packed him up as Ultimate Echo Echo.
Yeah, after how long of ******* around while saying he will kill him?

The dude lost as Ultimate Humungousaur and thought NRG, Spidermonkey, Big Chill and Echo Echo could hold a candle to him, it's not til the end he thought of using another Ultimate.
 
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