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Ben 10 (from the future) vs Danny Phantom (from the future)

Do we consider Feedback as usable here? He never used it and we don't know if he has him
If he's Ben Prime's true future instead of a variant (like the Ben 10k from Ultimate Alien) he should presumably have all his past aliens.
 
If he's Ben Prime's true future instead of a variant (like the Ben 10k from Ultimate Alien) so he presumably has all his past aliens.
Uhm, we should fix that in the future.

But until then, Feedback solos, he can (now) absorb him dry and bull practically anything he throws at him.
 
But until then, Feedback solos, he can (now) absorb him dry and bull practically anything he throws at him.
Yeah, no. Feedback is the worst choice Ben could use. He's got no resistances to the effects of ectoplasmic energy which causes disease inducment, corruption (type 1), biological manipulation (molecular level), and so on that's layered. Feedback basically inviting Dan inside to possess him since ghosts energy contains a part of their consciousness, and before the Omnitrix's resistance is brought up, Dan's possession is 5 layers so I don't see how Feedback solos.
 
Yeah, no. Feedback is the worst choice Ben could use. He's got no resistances to the effects of ectoplasmic energy which causes disease inducment, corruption (type 1), biological manipulation (molecular level), and so on that's layered. Feedback basically inviting Dan inside to possess him since ghosts energy contains a part of their consciousness, and before the Omnitrix's resistance is brought up, Dan's possession is 5 layers so I don't see how Feedback solos.
Absolutely all of that tou said is resisted by the Omnitrix, except possession, something that the even if not layered, should be stronger, as Ghostfreak posseses you on the physical / biological, abstract, informational and all of that shit. And if it can't defend him, it should still be able to purify its effects from Ben, since it can purify Gwen's spells.
 
Absolutely all of that tou said is resisted by the Omnitrix, except possession, something that the even if not layered, should be stronger, as Ghostfreak posseses you on the physical / biological, abstract, informational and all of that shit. And if it can't defend him, it should still be able to purify its effects from Ben, since it can purify Gwen's spells.
You can't just say it's going to be resisted by the Omnitrix when It lacks the layers (We currently accept Dan's possession at 5 layers scaling from Danny). Ghostfreak lacks the layers which is why I brought it up. Information hax doesn't mean anything because that's not what is being targeted, and purifying Gwens spells holds no weight because Dan isn't one of Gwen's spells, this isn't something like magic, it's a an energy/entity overriding all of Ben's functions and taking control on different levels. Possession works on technology as well so the Omnitrix is cooked because Dan's possession layers beat the Omnitrix's resistances, that doesn't even take into account his reactive evolution, so yeah Feedback is the worst choice here.
 
You can't just say it's going to be resisted by the Omnitrix when It lacks the layers (We currently accept Dan's possession at 5 layers scaling from Danny). Ghostfreak lacks the layers which is why I brought it up. Information hax doesn't mean anything because that's not what is being targeted, and purifying Gwens spells holds no weight because Dan isn't one of Gwen's spells, this isn't something like magic, it's a an energy/entity overriding all of Ben's functions and taking control on different levels. Possession works on technology as well so the Omnitrix is cooked because Dan's possession layers beat the Omnitrix's resistances, that doesn't even take into account his reactive evolution, so yeah Feedback is the worst choice here.
Gwen's spells are CM1 and Info Type 2 and the watch is able to null its effects on Ben, why wouldn't be able to do the same with something less powerful?
 
Gwen's spells are CM1 and Info Type 2 and the watch is able to null its effects on Ben, why wouldn't be able to do the same with something less powerful?
For one, ghosts/emotions in Danny Phantom are Abstract Type 1/CM Type 1 so it's debatable on being stronger and it having information hax is useless because that's got nothing to do with the power effecting it. Dan has resistance to power nullification and reactive evolution regardless. Finally, they aren't the same, you can null information manipulation but that's not gonna stop plot manipulation for example, each verse has a level on what's superior. For example, in DP Emotions are the ultimate power being above Space and Time Manipulation, Reality Warping, Plot Manipulation and so on, but another verse like Okage Shadow King would have Plot Manipulation as it's higher ability over Concept Manipulation. So saying can null information hax is irrelevant because that's not what's effecting it. One concept is not the same as another which is why we specifically as users list what kind of concept.

Again unless it has higher layer resistances or power nullification, it's not stopping it.
 
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