ben 10 battle royal

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Alien X-Tinction is close, let me do this.

SBA in 7:00 PM

all the bens (from the classic series to the reboot) fight to know which is the best in a battle.

classic ben and alien force have master control (plus classic has feedback) starts as DiamondHead(classic) and Swarpfire(AF)

U. Alien can only transform into ultimate aliens 3 times, starts as Eatle and can only use the aliens he obtained in ultimate alien (the aliens from Andromeda Galaxy, Chamalien, Fasttrack and those to whom he can go ultimate)

Omniverse has Skurd but he can only transform into the exclusive omniverse transformations, the initial 10 aliens and Feedback, starts as Whampire.

Ben 10 reboot post-Ben 10,010, starts as Cannonbolt.

Alien X is restricted, all statistics are equal except that the faster aliens will be at least 3 times faster than the rest

Ben 10:

Ben 10 AF: 1 (Greenshifter)

Ben 10 UA:

Ben 10 OV:

Ben 10 Reboot:

 

[Coolboy6]

This looks interesting, ima follow this

 

[Greenshifter]

Looks cool, I’ll give input later. Also maybe include Gwen 10 into this?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Looks cool, I’ll give input later. Also maybe include Gwen 10 into this?

Nah, it would not be a Ben 10 battle royal, it would be a omnitrix users battle royal although we could do AF gwen vs Gwen 10 later

 

[Greenshifter]

All right so first off Imma argue the trices counter Whampire's mindhax for being unaffected by Corrodium, otherwise he probably wins. Feedback can also drain all watches' energy to time everyone else out.
As such UA Ben would have the early advantage due to being able to amp his power with Eatle by eating rocks to the point of being on par with Lucubra Vilgax (who should scale to ultimate humungousaur).
Due to all stats equal OS Ben actually has the capability to incap everyone by basically touching the ground since he can encase Malware in crystals who has equal LS to himself.
However the Ben that truly shines here is AF Ben, due to starting as Swampfire he can't be defeated by Eatle and due to master control he can switch aliens to get out of the encasement, he has access to the most amount of aliens and has master control (so he can't time-out under normal circumstances) on top of that and also has access to Ben's best alien, Echo Echo, since he can dura neg everyone with his sound attacks (including intangibles) and has a lot of clones. The question is whether AF will actually fully utilize Echo Echo's capabilities. Technically there are some aliens who can't be knocked out who might put a wrench in the Echo Echo plan though.
Oh and eh reboot Ben exists...

So for now I'm probably going with AF Ben under the current conditions.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Bump

 

[JustANormalLemon]

a word, "Clockwork"

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

ben rarely uses Clockwork

 

[JustANormalLemon]

ben rarely uses Clockwork

But he can still use

 

[Greenshifter]

a word, "Clockwork"

Only UA Ben has him and can't use him properly since he doesn't know all of his abilities.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Only UA Ben has him and can't use him properly since he doesn't know all of his abilities.

fair

 

[BreezierChip835]

Waybig is canonically the 2nd strongest alien Ben has unlocked. Obviously Ultimate Humongosaur and Atomix could give him a run for his money, but master control with XLR8 is basically optimal defence.
Ultimate Waybig obviously slaps pretty hard, and therefore is another contender for the strongest single alien in the mix.

So, here's my reasoning for how OS Ben wins...

First, make a little pod of Taydenite. He'd honestly be the kind to wait and see what kind of awesome aliens future him has. In the pod, he goes Greymatter and has a little think, watching and waiting, trying to stay back. I'd assume most future Bens would know not to really bother spending ages bashing through Taydenite, and since OS Ben isn't doing anything, he's obviously not the main target. I'd guess they'd swarm UA Ben, since he has the single strongest alien among them, with Ultimate Waybig.

Then, use Ghostfreak to sneak through the floor after gathering how all-out the others are going. Get to whoever is the most isolated, swap to diamondhead, trap them in Taydenite. I'm gonna assume this would be what seems to be the weakest one here, in the form of Reboot Ben. He just hasn't got anything real special, simply being an inferior OS/AF mix. Maybe Rath could get some good hits in, but OV or AF could feasibly delete a single Young Appoplexian, be it with a Young Adult Incursion Warrior (Bullfrag, sorry if I got the species wrong lol) or just freezing/trapping him with Diamondhead or Big Chill. Plus, he starts as Cannonbolt, who has some horrid matchups here- Goop, Big Chill, Gravattack just turning him into a small, spinning planetiod...

So, we have one down, being Reboot. If needs be, you could use BenVicktor to shock him a bunch, putting him properly out of commission. Wasn't expecting anything from him, honestly. There's a good chance OS is noticed here, so now the real fighting begins. We'll say he tags to Benvicktor, since he's generally a pretty solid alien.

First is the hardest matchup, by a long shot. OV Ben. Feedback is a nightmare to deal with, absorbing all of Ben's energy attacks, and using electricity, something only BenVicktor really counters. So, there's one last trick here that could work... the OS watch's failsafes. Yes, the green energy blast thing. It's not an on-command attack, so here's a way to bait it out, but I'm sure you could do it with a few others. Bait OV into using Feedback's absorption, via a lightning blast from Benvicktor. Let OV get comfy with this fight, knowing Vicktor is kinda weak here, until he tries to go for a closer-range absorption. Then, simply leap at the hands, wrists first, and detransform, hopefully getting Feedback to unwittingly absorb the watch's energy. This seems to consistently force out the energy blast, hopefully taking feeback down. If not, XLR8 could deliver some quick blows while OV is still recovering.

Then, there's AF. (I'm saving UA for last, since Ultimate Waybig is terrifying.) There isn't really one winning strategy here, honestly. They've both got pretty solid counters to each other, and both have Master Control, so I think OS' best bet would be trying to use XLR8 to find an opening, then quickly tagging to Fourarms for a strong hit. Humongosaur is pretty scary here, but not super fast, so Wildvine could try trip him up, or block his view with Seed Pod Bombs. This is the only one I can't really give a winning idea for, so I suppose it's a matter of opinion. I do, however, believe AF loses to UA, so I'll move OS Ben on saying that either OS or UA would take down AF.

Finally, UA. Last 2 competitors. UA most likely uses Ultimate Waybig here, for obvious reasons, so here is where the fight gets a little dicey. UWaybig was able to survive attacks from the Dagon, something I doubt OS Ben could really scale up to. So, the only real choice is to force UA out of being Waybig. 2 Methods come to mind- placing UA in a situation where Waybig simply isn't practical, like an enclosed space, or when dealing with something small, fast, and hard to hit; or placing OS in a position where he is able to simply stall until UWayBig times out. So I say, why not do both?

First, go back to Frankenstrike. UWayBig is made of some type of metal, and since BenVicktor can create Electromagnets using metal, simply do so, as to stick onto Waybig's body. This makes it impractical to actually attack OS, since it would risk UA harming himself. Slowly move to about halfway up UWaybig, using the weird shapes of Waybig's torso, waist and legs as barriers. BenVicktor is pretty bulky, so a few hits would be feasible, if mostly ineffective. Then, use Wildvine and Benmummy to potentially bind some of UWaybig's movement, if only shortly. This is all just buying time. Diamondhead can create great shields, plus threaten actual damage to UWaybig with Taydenite shards. Keep going until UWayBig Ben times out or tags out. If he times out, then boom, victory. If he swaps, Master Control allows for counter-picks to any Andromeda, and Chamalien or Juryrigg won't be of much use. Fasttrack is considered slower than XLR8, so that's a no-win scenario there. Clockwork is a big threat, but with enough XLR8 boosted reaction time, using Upgrade to merge with him could be a great solution. Regardless, OS simply needs to keep countering and playing defensively until UA times out fully, before finishing the fight.



Of course, OS would likely just run up and try to deck someone with Fourarms, getting horribly blasted in the process, but hey. He's definitely got a good shot.

 

[UltraChair]

Does Skurd also have the same restrictions as OV Ben, or can he just use any DNA he wants?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

any DNA

 

[Greenshifter]

any DNA

... that’d include Celestialsapien DNA. Then again might not be that useful in stats equal and Skurd not having personalities and by extension reality warping capabilities probably.

@BreezierChip835 stats are equalized, not sure if you accounted for that.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

... that’d include Celestialsapien DNA. Then again might not be that useful in stats equal and Skurd not having personalities and by extension reality warping capabilities probably.

@BreezierChip835 stats are equalized, not sure if you accounted for that.

Skurd only used Alien X's DNA only once, so it is highly unlikely that he will use it.

 

[BreezierChip835]

... that’d include Celestialsapien DNA. Then again might not be that useful in stats equal and Skurd not having personalities and by extension reality warping capabilities probably.

@BreezierChip835 stats are equalized, not sure if you accounted for that.

It's mostly the lack of Master Control and starting as Cannonbolt that hurts him the most. CB honestly seems like the 2nd worst OS alien here, and reboot one hasn't done anything to really stand out above that position.

 

[Greenshifter]

Cannonbolt has blunt force resistance in OS and I assume reboot as well, so I doubt he’s the 2nd worst alien here.

 

[BreezierChip835]

Cannonbolt has blunt force resistance in OS and I assume reboot as well, so I doubt he’s the 2nd worst alien here.

CB is really good, the only actually 'bad' OS Alien is probably Greymatter, since he's functionally just going to be worse than Brainstorm. But if you really just want someone with plenty of bulk, Diamondhead could just make a ball of Taydenite, XLR8 is stupid fast, and thus hard to hit, etc. He's not bad, it's more that the others are good. Maybe he'd rank above Upgrade and Stinkfly, but I can't really see him going any higher up the list. Also reboot Stinkfly is the big stinky not good alien compared to OS.

 

[Greenshifter]

Diamondhead could just make a ball of Taydenite

Diamondhead is silicon-based, he’s absolutely not made out of taydenite.

 

[BreezierChip835]

Diamondhead is silicon-based, he’s absolutely not made out of taydenite.

My bad. Keep thinking that one scene where Kevin absorbs Taydenite had something to do with Diamondhead. Shows how often I rewatch that, aha. Still, he's Large Country Level durable (reading off wiki here), so he kinda fills Cannonbolt's slot here pretty well. CB is good, but just not against other Bens.