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No since its coming from MC duffie
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Ben 10: alternative to WOGs
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GeneralSol16
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We already have statements of him having the powers of the Omnitrix
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But that would mean he having the power of UA waybig too, which is not the case.
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Actually nvm, he alreasy has power of UA waybig :sussybaka:
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@Ultimate-Rex1 since you created the Mana page. Can u link all the WOGs u used in the profile aside from Dark Mana one?
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Mana (Ben 10)
Mana (alternatively spelled as Manna) is the hidden mystic life energy that permeates everything in nature, with the known exception of Ectonurites, being the energy used to perform magic. All the Mana in the universe flows from Legerdomain. There are many sapient species who can use Mana...
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Ok@Ultimate-Rex1 since you created the Mana page. Can u link all the WOGs u used in the profile aside from Dark Mana one?
Mana (Ben 10)
Mana (alternatively spelled as Manna) is the hidden mystic life energy that permeates everything in nature, with the known exception of Ectonurites, being the energy used to perform magic. All the Mana in the universe flows from Legerdomain. There are many sapient species who can use Mana...
Omnitrix can't scan Mana/Magic
https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/File:Omnitrix_Cannot_Accept_Stone_Creature_DNA.png
Anodite don't have DNA
Ben 10 Wiki
Ben 10 Planet is the ultimate Ben 10 resource where anyone can edit and learn about the vast universe of Ben 10!
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Anodite are immortal
Any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana
Mana are pure when it's became pink
Every Annihilarrgh Universe has its own rules of physics
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Ok
Omnitrix can't scan Mana/Magic
https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/File:Omnitrix_Cannot_Accept_Stone_Creature_DNA.png
Anodite don't have DNA
Ben 10 Wiki
Ben 10 Planet is the ultimate Ben 10 resource where anyone can edit and learn about the vast universe of Ben 10!
Anodite are immortal
Any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana
Mana are pure when it's became pink
Every Annihilarrgh Universe has its own rules of physics
Alr thanks. Incase u have any in-show alternative scans, make sure u post them in this thread coz we are planning to remove all of WOG from Ben 10.
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First, Resolve all of the word of gods/ statement about classic continuity.
once it is all fully done and accepted by the user who has complained about them on the other thread.
Then lastly move up to the reboot, at that point you can tag me here and I'll point out everything that needs alternative scans and I'll just post them if I have any.
once it is all fully done and accepted by the user who has complained about them on the other thread.
Then lastly move up to the reboot, at that point you can tag me here and I'll point out everything that needs alternative scans and I'll just post them if I have any.
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Yee thats exactly what i am planning to do. Removing all of WOG from profiles.
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I'm preparing a whole page for this.
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Alright, I'm not proving any Alternative scans right now, first get classic continuity out of the way then tag me
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I don't think the first wog about in Alien x profile should be deleted because the question was asked for what would happen if two Ben transforms to Alien X at the same time, him existing outside of time is an extra info that wasn't asked for it's not a leading question or powerscaling question it's not even a question the second one can be deleted it's definetly a leading one also Qawsedf shares the same idea in his last post in the other ben 10 wog removal
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My opinion would be to not keep the WOG at all honestly even if Qawsedf said he is fine with possibly.
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There are scenes in the show to support this, WOG was just added as additional justification. Not the main point on why he got it. This was discussed in the original thread where it was added.
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2nd one was agreed to be a leading question and therefore should be nuked. 1st one was asked by a powerscaler, and Qaw said that could be at most be listed as Possibly.
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WOGs will be removed and since WOG was used as supportive evidence, anyhow, a new thresd have to be made to re-add BDE.
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Guys i think working pages by pages might be bit more productive, that way we czn list the profiles which doesn't uses any WOG any further in the OP and continue to work on other profiles.
For now we need to work on:
For now we need to work on:
- Mana profile
- Gwen's profile
- Kevin
- Alien X
- Ben tennyson
- Aggregor
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How about we distribute the work among ourselves (like seperate person fixing seperate profiles and then one crt can be made addressing all of em)
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That looks like a good idea. I can work on the profiles i mentioned
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whatever you add make sure to use "references" and "citation" feature in the page edition tool.
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If we fix Mana profile then Gwen's profile would be fix, simple
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Replace the Timestop statement with this clip.
Resistance to fear manipulation will need a CRT.
Just remove the word "robots", since it's the only one that requires WOG.
All these abilities will need a CRT to explain properly and get them re-added. But I do have the justification for them.
Plasma Manipulation can be justified with this clip.
Replace the statement with this clip.
Here's the clip for Statistics Amplification.
I'll do some more scene searching, these were the ones I could find on short notice.
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Celestial_Scaler25
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Replace any statement of "laws of physics" with this clip.
Gutrot is comparable to his alternate timeline counterpart, who is immune to his own acidic gas.
Sleep Manipulation can also be added.
Gravattack is a small planet made of rock. Should be more than enough to justify Inorganic Physiology.
The statement itself is unnecessary.
Enhanced Plant Manipulation can be added to his blossomed form. As he couldn't control certain plant life in his base but could in his blossomed form. His plant manipulation should also be passive & active in both base and blossomed form. (I'll add the clips now;-})
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I’m a bit late, but imo we shouldn’t need direct confirmation to assume this.
Iirc Ben at that point had around 30-35 aliens, including Ultimates (Kevin has Ultimate Spidermonkey’s mouth web thing so we know he can absorb Ultimate form DNA). If Kevin theoretically had every alien except Ultimate Humungousaur, Ultimate Echo Echo and Way Big, he’d be no more than 4x his base. Add on the extra two Ultimates, and we’re looking at no more than 6-7x his base. If he doesn’t have Way Big’s power, he’d be at best relative to Ultimate Aggregor (who he stomps effortlessly), and taking away too much would make him weaker than Greg. This would mean he’d have to at least have Way Big’s DNA, as the math just doesn’t check out otherwise.
Kevin also loosely implies that he’s as strong as he could possibly be when he says he’s gotta go for the “A-game” (absorbing the Ultimatrix instead of the Omnitrix). Since we know he can absorb more than 10 aliens at a time, it makes more sense to say he absorbed the DNA of every alien to guarantee victory.
Ironically, assuming he only has what he shows + Way Big would actually make Way Big scale higher, since Way Big’s current rating is extrapolated based on how strong Ultimate Kevin is.
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Yes we giving him Ultimates power since its stated in Ben 10 database that he has it.
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Is this still alive? If so we have a statement that Kevin having all of Ben's powers idk if this help
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