Ben 10: alternative to WOGs

[Reiner04]

This thread is primarily for reporting any WoG statements currently used in the profiles and finding official or in-universe alternatives for them. Once found, we will create a CRT to replace them. Please ensure that even if you cannot find an alternative, you still report the WoG statement here
WOGs that has been mentioned by Qawsedf
WOGs that has been mentioned by Amon

As long as its not a WOG about canonicity, you can report them.

 

[Hellformer]

I'll start sending all canonical replacements when I'm free

 

[Reiner04]

Wait entire cosmology page just uses one fuckimg irrelevant WOG that should have not even been there but actuals scans that were accepted in the High 3-A Universe thread?? Are u kidding me? Did i missed smth?

 

[Reiner04]

• Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1; Stated to exist outside of space and time and that this state of being grants him immunity against space time destruction which is consistent with Alien X being immune to the Annhilarrgh's space-time erasure. Celestialsapiens are born in The Forge of Creation and are as nebulous as their home. The Forge of Creation is out of sync with all of time and is the origin of the verse including the space beyond which has the highest order time axis in the verse)
• They were aware of Team Tennyson when they arrived in The Forge of Creation. Can freely travel in and out of the Forge of Creation, even though it is hidden by the Chronal Randomization Barrier created by Professor Paradox

I didn't checked Alien X profile in detail but checking it in hurry, i could only find 2 abilities that uses WOG. A crt shall be created to remove both abilities. If anyone wants to add these abilities back a crt must be created with canon scans only.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Here are some scans I replaced in the OP
Post in thread 'Removing WOG from Ben 10' https://vsbattles.com/threads/removing-wog-from-ben-10.187228/post-7506600

 

[GeneralSol16]

• Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1; Stated to exist outside of space and time and that this state of being grants him immunity against space time destruction which is consistent with Alien X being immune to the Annhilarrgh's space-time erasure. Celestialsapiens are born in The Forge of Creation and are as nebulous as their home. The Forge of Creation is out of sync with all of time and is the origin of the verse including the space beyond which has the highest order time axis in the verse)
• They were aware of Team Tennyson when they arrived in The Forge of Creation. Can freely travel in and out of the Forge of Creation, even though it is hidden by the Chronal Randomization Barrier created by Professor Paradox

I didn't checked Alien X profile in detail but checking it in hurry, i could only find 2 abilities that uses WOG. A crt shall be created to remove both abilities. If anyone wants to add these abilities back a crt must be created with canon scans only.

We could replace it with those mentions of him transcending our very plane of reality?

 

[Reiner04]

We could replace it with those mentions of him transcending our very plane of reality?

Thats a question for the CRT that will be created to add them back. On another note, is there any other WOG in usage on Alien X profile?

 

[GeneralSol16]

Thats a question for the CRT that will be created to add them back. On another note, is there any other WOG in usage on Alien X profile?

In Cosmic Awareness

 

[Reiner04]

In Cosmic Awareness

Oh, yeah i think it can work. Just needs to create a crt to replace its scans.

 

[Reiner04]

@Ultimate-Rex1 @Greenshifter @DemonicDude @Apollonir.Scale @Ghengiroo115 @ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING @BlastX @Maverick_Zero_X @Firestorm808 @Lort15 @Celestial_Scaler25 @Omegabronic

In case you are interested in helping out.

 

[Reiner04]

This calc uses WOG right? WOG about the lazer used on Waybig being Conquest ray?

Ben 10: Conquest Ray

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[GeneralSol16]

This calc uses WOG right? WOG about the lazer used on Waybig being Conquest ray?

Ben 10: Conquest Ray

vsbattles.fandom.com

That was just to be sure, but we can still use the feat

 

[Reiner04]

That was just to be sure, but we can still use the feat

We can but it will be better to just yeet it honestly. I don't think we even need it.

 

[Reiner04]

We can but it will be better to just yeet it honestly. I don't think we even need it.

Or if there is some in-universe reason that explains its same conquest ray then we can use it.

 

[Reiner04]

Notes: Duncan Rouleau confirmed that the pink beam that Way Big countered in Omniverse is the same as the green beam of the Conquest Ray in Alien Force.

This needs to be removed from profile.

Size manp of waybig needs to be removed and scan when Gwen held him inside the book can be used.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Or if there is some in-universe reason that explains its same conquest ray then we can use it.

Has Way Big reached to any MFTL+ feat?

 

[Reiner04]

Has Way Big reached to any MFTL+ feat?

I don't think he has any MFTL+ feat but he can get it via chain scaling atleast.

 

[DemonicDude]

In case you are interested in helping out.

i have already explained all the Reboot statements above one by one, and as you know they are not used for power scaling or tiering.
The rest you can handle (I'm not knowledgeable on classic)

 

[Greenshifter]

That was just to be sure, but we can still use the feat

No we can’t, the Incurseans heavily imply they only have one Conquest Ray.

 

[Hellformer]

Can someone copy paste all the WoG, exactly as Amon and Qawsedf?

 

[Reiner04]

Can someone copy paste all the WoG, exactly as Amon and Qawsedf?

Qawsedf:

The following stood out to me as unusable or at least questionable:

• Cosmology is a leading question
• Question 1 is a leading question
• This is saying that an alien rock monster has no DNA, not that magical creatures themselves lack DNA so this is just not a power
• This is a massively leading question using our tiering standards and leads me to believe that any question from G.G. should be automatically banned
• This is either a leading question or just a bad WoG to use since they outright admit they don't remember the scene.
• This is a leading question as they're putting a value that they want confirmed
• The author states he doesn't know the extent of their powers. This statement shouldn't be used
• This is a leading question, but not a major one I guess
• 50/50 on this one
• I'm 50/50 on this statement, and this one is a very straightforward leading question
• This is another straightforward leading question
• I'm 50/50 on these, as they're power scaler bait but also not a leading question. I would still think that we shouldn't use them however
• I would consider this a leading question
• Worded strangely but still ultimately a leading question
• 50/50 on this
• Leading question
• If this isn't a leading question, it's still one with the main purpose being power scaling
• 50/50 on this
• Leading question

 

[Reiner04]

Amon's:​

Verse page

Alien X is a pure Celestialsapien, Therefore he is more powerful than Alien V used by Vilgax (Alien V is a transformation used by Vilgax which contains 1/2 Dna of Chimera Sui Generis and 1/2 Dna of a Celestialsapien). Using this transformation has the potential to takeover the universe. This makes him stronger than the likes of High Override, who is a planetary threat. Alien V also was able to terraform the entire Earth into an unknown crystal. This makes Alien X stronger than both High Override and Alien V, along with the magician Hex as well who uses Titan Gauntlets to make himself 100 times more powerful than his base form. Therefore Alien X is stronger than 5.84 Zettatons as he casually defeats several alternate-timeline aliens and scales above 100 times multipliers provided by Titan Gauntlets.

Cosmology

Each timeline and its branches have the same parallel Dimensions. The universe is an infinite space that contains infinite number of dimensions each of which are separated by a barrier of space-time that is accessible by specific in-verse in-universe dimension connecting devices; ex: Dimensional disruptor, null-void gun.

The Universe or more like "multiverse of Dimensions" is infinite in size, and it was further supported by Duncan's statement of an infinite universe. "Quick question, how big is the Ben 10 Universe, is it infinite in size?" "Yes. Infinite"

Mana

Life Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation & Magic (Any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana, an life energy, essence, soul and mind for every being in the universe. It is tied directly to a person's being, allowing one to control magic)

Inorganic Physiology (Type 1; Anodite are stated to be "pure-energy beings", they are spirits made of mana, lack real biological functions.)

Biological Manipulation (Mana are not compatible with the Omnitrix's DNA control, as it's don't have DNA)

Inorganic Physiology (Type 1; Rock Monster stated to be "Rock Creatures", they are beings made of mana, lack real biological functions)

Basic Mana is a lower level of mana, the user has a magical aura and their mana aren't pure and its colors vary. The user's can make his own mana become pure if he manipulate it directly.

Dark Mana, is also called Dark Magic, who is darkest of mana and it get impurities by evil of user, it's forbidden magic used to reviving the dead, users of this mana, their mana are more dark and evil, its color are black or normal pink.

Self-Age Manipulation & Immortality

• (Type1; Anodites are technically biologically immortal, as she is able to manipulate her crafted body's age at will, and Verdona comment on how she supposed in "human time" she hadn't seen her son in a while further hinted at her race's extended lifespan)

Law Manipulation, Time Manipulation & Physics Manipulation (Mana are lacks a rules, such as time and physics)

Anodites are a free-spirited race of humanoid Mana beings from the planet Anodyne. Anodites are the best users of mana, as any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana through study and practice. While anyone can learn to harness mana, Anodites, a race of "energy beings", are entirely comprised of mana and thus have a strong innate capacity for manipulating it and have more abilities than any other user of mana and most of their abilities don't need spells:

Incorporeality (Anodites are beings made of mana, and lack a body and DNA, which makes them spirits made of mana. This is shown to be true, as Verdona tells Gwen, Anodites need to destroy her body, so she can be a Anodite.)

Immunity to Biological Manipulation (Anodites are beings made of mana, and lack DNA.)

Immunity to Law Manipulation, Time Manipulation & Physics Manipulation (Anodites are beings made of mana which lacks a rules, including rules of physics.)

The following isn't a WoG statement, but why a deleted scene is being used?

Supernatural Willpower (Mana depends on the emotional of a user, if their will become more stronger, the mana would be became more responsive to them, shown when Charmcaster was able to destroy her castle through anger, Gwen was able to broke free from Ultimate Kevin's absorption and pain effects through anger, and Darkstar was able to destroy all monsters around him through anger.)

Reactive Evolution, Empowerment & Enhanced Absorption (Users possess the ability to mine life energy from others life-forms, absorbing it from a distance or direct contact. This empowers them, greatly increasing their power as well as the potency of their abilities. Their own mana can also do the same, granting them more power and new abilities in combat when experiencing strong mana.)

Ice Manipulation (User can created snow.)

Omnitrix

Existence Erasure, Deconstruction, Soul Destruction, Information Manipulation (Type 2), Time Manipulation & Spatial Manipulation (History [5-D] - Unaffected by Chronosapien Time Bomb's explosion, which can ripple timestream that can destroy infinitely branching space-time continuums along with their individual history, including Anodite)

Gwen

Immortality (Type 1 - Considering that she is an Anodite, she is not bound by age)

Biological Manipulation, Physics Manipulation & Law Manipulation (Being an made of mana, Gwen are lack laws and DNA)

Kevin

Energy Projection (Has Eye Guy, Way Big and Upchuck's powers)

Duplication (Has Ditto's powers)

Transformation (Can transform back into human at will, has Cannobolt's powers)

Solar System level+ (Has 1/10th the combined strength of the entire active playlist of the Ultimatrix and every Ultimate form used so far Easily defeated Ultimate Aggregor and then absorbed all of the power of the Andromeda aliens that Aggregor had absorbed, with him absorbing more power later on)

Rook Blonko

Note: Rook holds the only Proto-Tool in existence and himself has modified the tool. The Proto-Tech Armor was created by the Galvan for Rook.

Professor Paradox

Time Manipulation (26-D; WOG stated that Professor Paradox can stop time. Make Chronal Randomization Barrier out of sync with all time.)

Madness Manipulation & Fear Manipulation (Type 3; Resisted being insane overtime while getting his powers i.e. due to nature of his being. WOG stated that Paradox can't affect from Toepick's Face, which can cause madness, fear, sickness.)

High Override

Note: The High Override can boost Shock Rock to a point he can destroy the Earth

Eon

Summoning (Capable of summoning allies to assist in combat, including Alternate Bens, Time Warriors transformed into creatures, and Robots)

Michael Morningstar

Absorption (Light - Can absorb light.)

Alien X

Cosmic Awareness (Serena and Bellicus were able to hear far cries of everyone in the Universe. They were aware of Team Tennyson when they arrived in The Forge of Creation. Can freely travel in and out of the Forge of Creation, even though it is hidden by the Chronal Randomization Barrier created by Professor Paradox)

Physics Manipulation & Law Manipulation (Comparable to the Annihilarrgh, which establishes the laws of physics for each Annihilarrgh's universe. Capable of changing the entire universe, including laws of physics. Recreated an entire universe with it's specific laws of physics)

Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1; Stated to exist outside of space and time and that this state of being grants him immunity against space time destruction which is consistent with Alien X being immune to the Annhilarrgh's space-time erasure. Celestialsapiens are born in The Forge of Creation and are as nebulous as their home. The Forge of Creation is out of sync with all of time and is the origin of the verse including the space beyond which has the highest order time axis in the verse)

Annihilarrgh

Physics Manipulation & Law Manipulation (The Annihilarrgh created every universe structure, including the laws of physics, which can vary between universes.)

Dark Matter

Notable Attacks/Techniques: Being part-Galvan, Dark Matter possesses enhanced intelligence similar to Grey Matter, allowing him to instantly recharge Ben's Omnitrix by inputting a specific code sequence. He uses fast and acrobatics combat in which he creates crystal shield and rapid energy attacks while surface scaling on walls. Dark Matter can secrete a dark red cerebrospinal fluid, which he can harden into a plaque and manipulate it to form weapons resembling the red crystal produced from his fireballs. He can create Weapon to use in combat the weapons Dark Matter creates from out of his body are a by-product of his mind. While the energies generated in a regular Galvan lead to the acceleration of synaptic activity, in Dark Matter, those energies undirected or improperly directed create the dark matter he issues out from inside.

Shock Rock

All previous abilities to a much greater extent, Spaceflight as it Provides space armor and protection in outer space and other planetary environments

Intelligence: Above Average (A highly skilled fighter, Shock Rock is one of Ben's most powerful aliens in the reboot as his sole purpose is to face cosmic threats and powerful foes from outerspace and he has defeated Earth threatning enemeis such Weatherheads and Vilgax both at the same time in a one versus four fight and individually as well. Shock rock is highly skillful when it comes to making his energy weapons and constructs and was able to hold his own against Agent Six who is the titled "The Sixth most deadliest person on the Earth". Shock Rock was able to go toe to toe and defeat Vilgax who is an intergalactic warlord and even surprise him throughout the battle with his creative energy eruption attacks and energy weapons such as Bluemerang. Being a Fulmini his species are highly trained warriors as they are constantly battling with other planets & conquering them due to their continuous wars they ended up destroying their planet themselves. Shock Rock also utilizes his environment making the best use of any objects nearby such as using metal scaps to hover around as a hoverboard, Transforming normal vehicles into energized which is what he did by making energy cycles for speed or by making any energy weapon or construct depending on the situation, He can straight up energy cage his opponents from the wide variety of tools mentioned below. Every alien transformation possesses Ben’s intelligence/skill/experience and resistances)

Note: Boosted by High Override Shock Rock form comes from Ben 10 Reboot Season 2 finale titled "Innervasion" where Shock Rock was momentarily mind controlled by his species leader named High Override who invaded the Earth alongside his species fulmini army through a portal whom were also mind controlled by him. After he mind controlled Shock Rock thus changing his color to purple this made him very powerful as he was able to casually defeat Vilgax and has been described by the creators of the show as being capable of destroying the planet itself.

Slapback

Note: Slapback with enough duplication can become as dense as a black hole, Even a single Slapback clone weights around a billion pounds, The most clones he has ever produced on screen are eight.

Gutrot

Resistance to Gas Manipulation, Acid Manipulation, Immunity to all forms of poison (here),Extreme Cold, Cosmic Radiation and (All abilties and resistances provided by the Omnitrix)

Note: Gutrot can make any kind of chemical gas.

Cannonbolt

Enhanced Senses (Excellent Hearing; The fur on his body registers shifts in the air and motion around him, giving him "eyeless" vision)

Gravattack

Inorganic Physiology (Type 2: He is a silicon-based life form)

Heatblast

Heat Manipulation (Stated multiple times to be able to reach Supernova levels of temperature, something supported by WoG)

Big Chill

Ice Manipulation (Enhanced) and Plasma Manipulation (Can fire beams of plasma energy).

Swampfire

Enhanced Fire Manipulation and Energy Manipulation (His flames have become much more powerful than before, and he has improved his control over fire, now being able to manipulate blue fire energy).

Enhanced Plant Manipulation (improved his chlorokinesis).

Way Big

Size Manipulation (Can change his size)

Notes: Duncan Rouleau confirmed that the pink beam that Way Big countered in Omniverse is the same as the green beam of the Conquest Ray in Alien Force.

XLR8

Superhuman Speed, Statistics Amplification & Limited Physics Manipulation (Is completely frictionless, can manipulate frictionless for super speed and can think at extreme speeds)

Highbreed

Attack Potency: Solar System level (Capable of fighting Humungosaur. Some Highbreed are considered stronger than Vilgax)

Rocks

Note: Despite having never appeared in any canon media and originally being deemed non-canon. Squidstrictor and Rocks are available in the Omnitrix as of Omniverse according to DJW.

Ghostfreak

Enhanced Senses (Night Vision & Panoramic Vision; Can see in the dark and has an eye that can move around through the black lines on his body, which functionally gives him 360-degree vision)

Longevity (Ectonurites like Zs'Skayr has lived for over a hundred years and their undead biology allows them to live long life)

Zs'Skayr

Enhanced Senses (Night Vision & Panoramic Vision; Can see in the dark and has an eye that can move around through the black lines on his body, which functionally gives him 360-degree vision)

Longevity (Ectonurites like Zs'Skayr has lived for over a hundred years and their undead biology allows them to live long life)

Humungousaur

Statistics Amplification (Can increase and decrease his size, which makes his strength increase and decrease)

Humungoopsaur

Large Size (Type 0 to Type1; Comparable to Humungousaur and can increase his size)

Overflow

Matter Manipulation (Can manipulate different states of matter)

Bashmouth
why is this listed?

Notes: Bashmouth is Kevin's favorite alien, Despite his similarities with Rath in behavior, they both are not the same species.

Omnitrix (Reboot)

The Omnimatrix, better known as the Omnitrix, is Azmuth's greatest invention. A repository of alien DNA from across the universe, it allows its wielder to transform into any species recorded within in. It is attached to Ben Tennyson's wrist and is the device that the series revolves around. The Omnitrix contains the DNA of millions of aliens from across the galaxy.

Omni-Naut forms: The Omnitrix can provide its aliens with Omni-Naut Armors. By twisting the symbols on their bodies another 90 degrees, the alien forms will have their Omni-Kix Armors reformatted into special robotic suits that allow them to survive in the vacuum of space which Provides spaceflight and protection in outer space and other planet's environments. This ability actives automatically when user is in danger. Omnitrix also generated an Omni-naut armor for Ben.

Note: During Season 1 Ben only got access to 10 aliens however upon his meeting with Azmuth in Ben 10 vs the Universe movie he has now learned to use Shortcuts and can access any alien he wants and did this to unlock Way Big. Phil clocked the Omnitrix's transformation process at 100 google yattabytes per .000000000001 cubed second. As far as any sub or superluminal matter in the universe, the Omnitrix operational speed easily surpasses the once theoretical, faster than light, tachyon particle.

Omni Forms (Reboot)

Omni Naut Armor: Third and lastly in the 5th and final season of Ben 10 Reboot mostly taking place in space and hence why writers confirmed the arrival of a special space armor. Ben unlocks the Omni-Orbital Flight Suits also known as Omni-Naut Armors, are space armor-related power ups and expansion of the Omni-Kix Armors. Not only does this provide protection in outer space and other planetary environments. It has Jetpack boosters auto installed on the boots of the aliens allowing them to fly where ever they want in the galaxy. These boosters are resposible for making aliens by without it they are helplessly paddling in the space. The weight, shape and sizes of aliens are non factor as all aliens can boost the speed of their jetpack at will as the speed directly comes from the armor itself.

Ben (Reboot)

Spaceflight and Provides protection in outer space and other planets' environments

Omni-Naut Space Armor: The Omnitrix provides some aliens in Omni-Naut armor which grants them spaceflight and protection in outer space and other planet's environments Ben does not need to activate the armor himself as this feature activates automatically during the combat.

Kevin (Reboot)

Intelligence: Above Average (Kevin is a bully who seems to enjoy causing other people misery, taking sadistic joy in inflicting pain and suffering. He is also incredibly arrogant, believing himself to be better with the Antitrix than Ben is with the Omnitrix despite having had it for a far lesser period of time, and is determined to prove this by destroying Ben. Kevin loathed to believe that he could need help with anything, which caused him to initially reject Forever Knight's offer of recruitment. He built the Antitrix after Vilgax sent him the plan through a tech)

Vilgax (Reboot)

At least Small Planet level, likely far higher (As Alien V corrupted and planned to destroy the Earth. WoG says he could take over the Universe at full power)

Intelligence: Supergenius (Co-created the Omnitrix with Azmuth and has intimate knowledge on the watch. Created the blueprints for the Antitrix, a similar but inferior device)

Note: Alien V might be far more powerful than listed above as he never reached his full potential and is a part Celestialsapien

Alien X (Reboot)

Corruption (Alien V used Alien X's DNA to corrupt the entire Earth and change it's composition by terraforming the entire earth)

Lifting Strength: Unknown. At least Class G (Easily overpowered several aliens). At least Class G, likely far higher with Telekinesis (Threw a large piece of land. Should be more powerful than Alien V)

Grey Matter (Reboot)

Intelligence: Extraordinary Genius (As a Galvan the same species as Azmuth the creator of the Omnitrix itself, Grey Matter's mind is able to generate energies that lead to accelerated synaptic activity. He can create complicated machines from spare parts, understand the function of any device at a glance, and make sophisticated repairs to complex machines. Grey Matter's intellectual and analytical prowess aids him in succeeding his opponents in difficult situations. In conjunction, his intelligence makes him a natural problem solver, enabling him to think more strategically when brute force is inefficient. Being a transformation of Ben every alien possesses Ben’s intelligence/skill/experience and resistances.)

Diamond Head (Reboot)

Note: Diamondhead is capable of absorbing various types of energies and is not limited to lasers and electricity such as, primarily light waves. He can be empowered by fire generated by enemies or around him and use them for advantage. Diamondhead does not give off body heat, making him impossible to track by body temperature as King Koil failed to do so. Diamondhead's constructs are stronger than steel.

Heatblast (Reboot)

All previous abilities of base to an even greater extent, and Spaceflight, Self-Sustenance (Type 1. Omni-Naut Armor Provides spaceflight and protection in outer space and other planets' environments)

Humungousaur (Reboot)

All previous abilities to a much greater extent. Sound Manipulation and Spaceflight, Self-Sustenance (Type 1) Omni-Naut Armor Provides spaceflight and protection in outer space and other planets' environments)

Jetray (Reboot)

All previous abilities to a much greater extent, Spaceflight, Provides spaceflight and protection in outer space and other planet's environments

 

[Reiner04]

DD can handle Reboot as DD said, so just focus on the classic

 

[DemonicDude]

DD can handle Reboot as DD said, so just focus on the classic

I have already replied to each statement, If you want to ask me anything specific (name the statement) until then I'm pressing unwatch button.

 

[Hellformer]

Qawsedf:
The following stood out to me as unusable or at least questionable:

• Cosmology is a leading question

Outright stated to be infinite. The dimensions parallel to it (Null Void and Legerdomain) are stated to be endless (here, here)

• Question 1 is a leading question

I don't remember this being canonically stated anywhere, so if it doesn't exist then nuke it.

• This is saying that an alien rock monster has no DNA, not that magical creatures themselves lack DNA so this is just not a power

The playlist of Omnitrix and Ultimatrix is limited to Milky way galaxy, so logically the Ultimatrix should've scanned those monsters but it didn't, therefore they lack DNA (Logical deduction)

• This is a massively leading question using our tiering standards and leads me to believe that any question from G.G. should be automatically banned

Feedback has an on screen Low 1-A tier 1 feat so

• This is either a leading question or just a bad WoG to use since they outright admit they don't remember the scene.

Osmosians can absorb the powers of their opponents so having their abilities is straightforward but even if not shown, a possibly rating isn't a stretch.

• This is a leading question as they're putting a value that they want confirmed

We have 2 canon statements of osmosians absorbing 1/10th of power so (here, here)

• The author states he doesn't know the extent of their powers. This statement shouldn't be used.

Maltruant has shown to stop time (OV S8E9) and Paradox did it in AF S2 war of the Worlds.

• This is a leading question, but not a major one I guess.

Nuke it.

• 50/50 on this one

Reboot related so idc

• I'm 50/50 on this statement, and this

The Celestialsapiens reside outside the timestream which contains all of space and time, though this needs to be revised via a CRT.

• one is a very straightforward leading question

Survived the Timestream busting bomb on screen so.

This is another straightforward leading question

Again reboot related

• I'm 50/50 on these, as they're power scaler bait but also not a leading question. I would still think that we shouldn't use them however

Nuke it

• I would consider this a leading question

He "assumes" something so it's better to nuke this as well but correct me if I'm wrong

• Worded strangely but still ultimately a leading question.

Canonically stated to be supernova hot in OS.

• 50/50 on this

Never canonically stated to have size manipulation

• Leading question.

Nukeee (even without the tier 4 stuff, he upscales from other tier 5 stuff)

• If this isn't a leading question, it's still one with the main purpose being power scaling

On screen reacted to the energy wave that expands beyond the infinite Timestream. Omnitrix Transformations are stated to happen in an instant.

• 50/50 on this

Reboot stuff

• Leading question

Canonically stated

 

[Hellformer]

Amon's:​

Verse page


Cosmology



Mana












The following isn't a WoG statement, but why a deleted scene is being used?




Omnitrix


Gwen



Kevin





Rook Blonko


Professor Paradox



High Override


Eon


Michael Morningstar


Alien X




Annihilarrgh


Dark Matter


Shock Rock




Slapback


Gutrot



Cannonbolt


Gravattack


Heatblast


Big Chill


Swampfire



Way Big



XLR8


Highbreed


Rocks


Ghostfreak



Zs'Skayr



Humungousaur


Humungoopsaur


Overflow


Bashmouth
why is this listed?


Omnitrix (Reboot)




Omni Forms (Reboot)


Ben (Reboot)



Kevin (Reboot)


Vilgax (Reboot)




Alien X (Reboot)



Grey Matter (Reboot)


Diamond Head (Reboot)


Heatblast (Reboot)


Humungousaur (Reboot)


Jetray (Reboot)

Will reply tomorrow because I'm going to sleep rn.

 

[ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING]

Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1; Stated to exist outside of space and time

Born in realm out of sync with "all time"
You can use this clip to prove that cause and effect doesn't matter to Alien-X, but idk about wording for it

 

[Reiner04]

WOG on Cannonbolt profile:

• Enhanced Senses (Excellent Hearing; The fur on his body registers shifts in the air and motion around him, giving him "eyeless" vision)

Born in realm out of sync with "all time"
You can use this clip to prove that cause and effect doesn't matter to Alien-X, but idk about wording for it

Complex P&A will take a separate CRT to be replaced with canon scans.

 

[ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING]

For Time Manipulation of Paradox :

Time Manipulation (26-D; Professor Paradox can stop time. Make Chronal Randomization Barrier out of sync with all time.)

He stopped time against DN Aliens

 

[Reiner04]

For Time Manipulation of Paradox :

He stopped time against DN Aliens

Yeah and novel says he stopped time for everyone else but himself.

 

[Greenshifter]

Considering I haven’t been using WoG off-site for years, tag me if you need a replacement for something I’d argue.

 

[Reiner04]

Considering I haven’t been using WoG off-site for years, tag me if you need a replacement for something I’d argue.

Alr

 

[Omegabronic]

This needs to be removed from profile.

Size manp of waybig needs to be removed and scan when Gwen held him inside the book can be used.

Don't think this needs removal, like... it is just elaborating on what is implied in the episode

Plus Duncan doesn't follow the "McDuffie law" so his statements need a little more of a look imo

 

[Reiner04]

Don't think this needs removal, like... it is just elaborating on what is implied in the episode

Plus Duncan doesn't follow the "McDuffie law" so his statements need a little more of a look imo

Yeah true but i think js having 0 WOGs on profile will looks better

We dont need thst feat anyways

 

[GeneralSol16]

I don't think he has any MFTL+ feat but he can get it via chain scaling atleast.

He does.
He blitzed Ult Big Chill and Echo

 

[Lort15]

he blitzed all ultimates frfr

 

[Reiner04]

UA kevin's statement of having 1/10 of active Aliens playlist will be nuked. Will it affect anything?

 

[Omegabronic]

Yeah true but i think js having 0 WOGs on profile will looks better

We dont need thst feat anyways

Not really? That one is a good example of an acceptable one, we need those for comparison in the future

+ It is one of the supports for MFTL rating

 

[Reiner04]

Not really? That one is a good example of an acceptable one, we need those for comparison in the future

+ It is one of the supports for MFTL rating

help my agenda of 0 wog

 

[Omegabronic]

UA kevin's statement of having 1/10 of active Aliens playlist will be nuked. Will it affect anything?

Doesn't it fall under the acceptable WOG? It is just the same logic as OG where we are stated he has 1/10 of the powers of Ben's playlist