Battle between 11-A triangles

[The_Smashor]

Since The Chosen One was nerfed into the ground this is a better fight.

Rules: Speed Equalized. Battle takes place in a neutral area (Some amalgamation of Alan's computer and the Dreamscape). Obviously both are 11-A.


*Angry mouse cursor noises*


*Sarcastic Dorito noises*

Bill Cipher: 1 (Totallynotchewbacca)
The Animator:

Inconclusive:

 

[Jinsye]

Bill needs to get all of his stuff in his tier 2 key into his 11-A key besides a few abilities

 

[The_Smashor]

Son of a...

I mean, it dosn't matter that much. Bill still dosn't resist Alan's main hax. Would Causality manipulation be included in the abilities going into 11-A?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

No. Even then causality manipulation wouldn't be in-character.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

Pretty sure that mind hax should subdue him since it has the mind of a regular person

 

[The_Smashor]

Does 11-A Bill's mindhax work on 3D beings, especially ones in a seperate area?

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

well it worked on fiddleford when he saw bill in the nightmare realm and i am pretty sure he was 2-D still so yes

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bill's mindhax requires him to actually enter someone's mind.

Animator says "delet this" and Bill vanishes.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

he wasn't in fiddle fords mind though

he also doesn't just delete immediately as shown in the videos (I think)

all bill needs to do is say his name or get naked (this is what he actually did)

he could even just show something incredibly horrifying or maddening to drive them mad

 

[Jinsye]

Bill points out that deleting this isn't in character and snaps his fingers because Low-Godly is wrong.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

is that a vote for bill or....

 

[The_Smashor]

"Because Low-Godly is wrong"

Low-Godly isn't wrong, it just isn't instant. It requires Alan to go through a menu with the tab button and select a new cursor. This is also (seemingly) out of reach of beings on the level of "Victum"

Also Alan almost instantly Task Managed everything when he saw The Second Coming and co. messing around with his computer.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

wouldn't that be ressurection

 

[The_Smashor]

I suppose, but their almost interchangeable. Ganondorf also Low-Godly that could be considered ressurection.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

still it seem more like immortality type 2 and ressurection

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah, but they fufill the same purpose in this. A CRT can be made later.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

ok then my vote is still on bill though

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bill never mindhaxed Fiddleford.

Fiddleford simply freaked out at Bill feeding on his exoskeleton.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

it still is a form of maddness manip, it is like seeing pennywises true form and it will definitely work when bill does something remotely like that since fiddleford had a much stronger mind

 

[The_Smashor]

I mean, would you be freaked out if someone was eating your exoskeleton?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

No offense, but that is straight up wank.

It's like saying if I pulled my pants down in public and people freaked out about it, then I have madness manipulation.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

except that this made a man who was said to be a better mechanic than ford, showing his intelligence, go completely nuts

there is no wank about it especially regarding the situation

 

[The_Smashor]

He ate a part of his body. If I walked up and chewed your arm off would or would you not be freaked out?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Being intelligent doesn't mean you can't lose your composure.

He naturally reacted to something disturbing that Bill was doing.

 

[Jinsye]

>freaked out

Yes, being freaked out makes you spout backwards messages, I do that all the time.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

watch the clip, that wasn't something completely natural

besides, he has other ways of carrying this out

 

[Jinsye]

Btw, if you watched the clip. That's ******* madness hax no doubt about it.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

he has mind and maddness hax he could make the dude go insane then destroy the cursor with pure AP and then he wins

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

Btw, if you watched the clip. That's ******* madness hax no doubt about it.

please don't curse for no reason

but edward have you voted or are you just supporting my claim?

 

[The_Smashor]

Can Bill's Madness Hax work on somebody who sees him as lower-dimentiona who isn't even in the same area as himl? If not, then it would be like us looking at a picture of The Deadlights.

 

[Genericstickman]

I'm unsure how MM would even work here

Would the cursor be effected? would the animator be effecte? would Bill somehow be effected? who gets effected?

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

he was 2-D when he did it to fiddleford so yeah

though i must say that it wasn't the reason he became mcgucket but traumatized himso much that he thought he wouldn't recover so he wiped his mind

it still works but just want to clarify that

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

I'm unsure how MM would even work here
Would the cursor be effected? would the animator be effecte? would Bill somehow be effected? who gets effected?

he affects the animator and then destroys the cursor

 

[Jinsye]

Bill's madness hax has worked on 3-D beings so yes it would work on a 3-D animator.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I watched the scene again, I guess madness manipulation for that is fine. But AP against someone with Low-Godly? No.

 

[Jinsye]

Being vaporized by a raygun is mid-high though.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

the low godly is more like ressurection as we discussed, with the animator subdued he can't make another cursor so bill is free of just killing the thing

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

the animator needs to make a new cursor which is how the low godly works

 

[The_Smashor]

It's actually more akin to ressurection. And has to be done manually. But is it sight based? After all, The Animator is in a seperate plane of existance. If it's something that humans can't comprehend the the computer probably crashes and we get an inconclusive.

 

[Jinsye]

...yes

"ONE PEEK INTO MY DIMENSION AND THIS BUMPKIN LOST HIS WEAK LITTLE MIND ALL HE SAW WAS ME REMOVING MY EXOSKELETON TO FEED IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN JACK"