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SM is a "Mode", yes, but it is actually a Jutsu. SM is listed as a Supplimentary Jutsu that Base Naruto can use.
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Base Naruto should be allowed to use SM in Vs Battles
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Ultra Instinct is a technique, not a transformation. But it can be considered a transformation in a sense. Same thing with Narutos sage mode.
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I agree with Reppuzan.
It will upgrade his tier which would make the match up unfair if you put him up against someone equal to his base. Second, You can just put him in sage mode at the start since it's a key.
It's not like God Absorb Goku who's Base is Universe Level so he can go SS 1, SS 2, SS 3, SSG, and SSB in matches as he's still 3-A (Post Tournament power ups).
Though people would simply say the Goku they want or restrict the forms.
It will upgrade his tier which would make the match up unfair if you put him up against someone equal to his base. Second, You can just put him in sage mode at the start since it's a key.
It's not like God Absorb Goku who's Base is Universe Level so he can go SS 1, SS 2, SS 3, SSG, and SSB in matches as he's still 3-A (Post Tournament power ups).
Though people would simply say the Goku they want or restrict the forms.
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Well, War Arc Base Naruto is At Least Town+, Likely City+. SM is At Least City+ iirc. So, same tier, no?
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I guess but the problem is he needs time to do it... It would be a waste imo. Again, you could simply just put him in that form at the start.
This just seems like another thing people would use as an argument. I can see it now "Naruto distracts [insert character here] with Clone Spam, finds a hiding place and gathers Natural Energy gg."
@TFO
Note: Not saying that's what you're going to do. Just something that I think would happen.
This just seems like another thing people would use as an argument. I can see it now "Naruto distracts [insert character here] with Clone Spam, finds a hiding place and gathers Natural Energy gg."
@TFO
Note: Not saying that's what you're going to do. Just something that I think would happen.
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Well...that's exactly what Naruto would do. All he needs to do is make a Shadow Clone or two, and go have them hide in place for 8 seconds to gather the natural energy for it. It's more or less how he was able to keep it up against Pain.
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1. I guess I was right about it becoming an argument...
2. Please provide evidence that Naruto only needs 8 seconds to gather all that Natural Energy?
3. No, He already had several other Clones at Mt. Miyoboku that I gave him back his Sage Mode.
2. Please provide evidence that Naruto only needs 8 seconds to gather all that Natural Energy?
3. No, He already had several other Clones at Mt. Miyoboku that I gave him back his Sage Mode.
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It only makes him another tier in certain forms. Pretty Much, all forms other than his War Arc Base Changes tiers when he uses SM.PaChi2 said:
@LG1000
It isn't confirmed that Naruto needs 8 seconds. But its shown and implied that he just needs "Several Seconds" to focus and concentrate.
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2: I'm struggling to find the exact moment, but I explicitly remember reading that 4-8 seconds was all Naruto needed by the time of the Obito/Madara fight, because he'd achieved harmony with Kurama.LordGriffin1000 said:
the naruto wiki explains it thus:
3: Yes, the clones were already at Mt. Myoboku, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still been canonically shown to use Sage Mode this way.
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It...doesn't matter? Base Naruto still has full harmony with Kurama, unless you're going to explicitly point out "pre-Fourth Ninja War Base Naruto".Mindovin said:
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This teenager Naruto topic and thread and it's goes before manga chapter 699.
If you can read when Naruto and Tobirama noticed Juubito's Senjutsu weakness you can see how much time Naruto need to enter sage mode.
Also you read the most important part? '
If the user is also a jinchüriki that has achieved harmony with their tailed beast, they can drastically speed up their ability to gather natural energy in tailed beast mode to the point of only needing a few seconds to fully charge or recharge their sage chakra.
If you can read when Naruto and Tobirama noticed Juubito's Senjutsu weakness you can see how much time Naruto need to enter sage mode.
Also you read the most important part? '
If the user is also a jinchüriki that has achieved harmony with their tailed beast, they can drastically speed up their ability to gather natural energy in tailed beast mode to the point of only needing a few seconds to fully charge or recharge their sage chakra.
