Base Goku ( BoG-Post god ki absorption ) vs Gogeta Ssj4

[Gohanblanco217]

No it doesn't say that? It only says that he can use an even more powerful version called the 100x big bang kamehameha but it doesn't say it's 100x the original and he doesn't have damage boost on his profile.

If Goku can amp his kamehameha by 10x then I don't see why the same shouldn't apply to Gogeta big bang kamehameha x100.

he doesn't have damage boost on his profile.

It doesn't need to be stated in his profile as he clearly scales to Goku and Vegeta ablities

You're right, SSG goku doesn't scale to his 2x kamehameha because that was post absorption, SSG goku pre absorption only scales to 110x universal so Gogeta GIGA stomps. OP change it to base goku and restrict SSJ.

So base Goku post god ki absorption?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

If Goku can amp his kamehameha by 10x then I don't see why the same shouldn't apply to Gogeta big bang kamehameha x100.

It doesn't need to be stated in his profile as he clearly scales to Goku and Vegeta ablities

Goku doesn't have damage boost either and his kamehameha 10x on the profile doesn't mention that it's literally 10x.

So base Goku post god ki absorption?

Yes, and nice profile picture you finally changed it.

 

[DragonLord]

Looking at the profiles it seems to me BOG Goku is faster if I’m not missing something

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Goku doesn't have damage boost either and his kamehameha 10x on the profile doesn't mention that it's literally 10x.

Okay gonna make a small CRT to add this then.

Yes, and nice profile picture you finally changed it.

Thanks

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Looking at the profiles it seems to me BOG Goku is faster if I’m not missing something

Wait WTF speed isn't equalized? Bruh Gogeta speed blitzes. OP equalize speed.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Wait WTF speed isn't equalized? Bruh Gogeta speed blitzes. OP equalize speed.

Huh ? What's the speed difference?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Huh ? What's the speed difference?

Base goku scales to pretty much scales to 196 quadrillion C, SSJ4 Gogeta massively up scales from goku and pikkons 4 quadrillion c calculation, so basically the difference between base goku from the cell saga all the way to SSJ4 gogeta is how much higher SSJ4 gogeta is than 4 quadrillion C, I remember I calculated it before using only SSJ multipliers and got a sextillions c result or something although that was my own scale. So it's safe to say gogeta speed blitzes so just equalize speed to make our lives easier.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Base goku scales to pretty much scales to 196 quadrillion C, SSJ4 Gogeta massively up scales from goku and pikkons 4 quadrillion c calculation, so basically the difference between base goku from the cell saga all the way to SSJ4 gogeta is how much higher SSJ4 gogeta is than 4 quadrillion C, I remember I calculated it before using only SSJ multipliers and got a sextillions c result or something although that was my own scale. So it's safe to say gogeta speed blitzes so just equalize speed to make our lives easier.

Okay speed is equal now

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Bump

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Now that I think about this, the fusion rule is that base fusion is always stronger than the two fighters strongest form which would mean base Gogeta scales above SSJ4 goku who's stronger than syn who's 10x less than omega so 11x baseline which means SSJ4 gogeta would be at least 550x baseline and he'd massively upscale from that, while goku scales a good amount above 220x baseline which means the gap is more than 2.5x. So I'm voting Gogeta due to the AP advantage and them being on par in every other stat except maybe skill which is debatable (Gogeta is older goku + older Vegeta but super Goku fought beerus who has millions of years of experience and was called a genius by him which seems more impressive than gogeta). The SSJ key would make it a stomp so this is the fairest it can get so yeah I vote Gogeta for now.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Now that I think about this, the fusion rule is that base fusion is always stronger than the two fighters strongest form which would mean base Gogeta scales above SSJ4 goku who's stronger than syn who's 10x less than omega so 11x baseline which means SSJ4 gogeta would be at least 550x baseline and he'd massively upscale from that, while goku scales a good amount above 220x baseline which means the gap is more than 2.5x. So I'm voting Gogeta due to the AP advantage and them being on par in every other stat except maybe skill which is debatable (Gogeta is older goku + older Vegeta but super Goku fought beerus who has millions of years of experience and was called a genius by him which seems more impressive than gogeta). The SSJ key would make it a stomp so this is the fairest it can get so yeah I vote Gogeta for now.

Wasn't Ssj4 Gogeta stated to be dozens of times more powerful than SSJ4 Goku? It doesn't make sense but still

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Bump

 

[Shadyboi0]

Kaioken GG?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Both fighters have kaioken.

 

[DragonLord]

Think what they mean is that Gogeta could stack SSJ4 and Kaioken because of Dragon Ball Heroes If that counts

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Both fighters have kaioken.

 

[WarriorofMite]

Gogeta stomps.

 

[Rez]

Gogeta stomps

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I don't think it's a stomp, goku can still put up a fight even though gogeta would massively upscale from 550x baseline.

 

[sanicspood]

if its not a stomp than gogeta fra

 

[Sonicflare9]

gogeta fra

 

[Rez]

I don't think it's a stomp, goku can still put up a fight even though gogeta would massively upscale from 550x baseline.

So then what's Goku's wincon gogeta has higher ap and dura and definitely higher skills because he is a fusion between 2 very skilled fighters

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Pretty sure Gogeta stomps If Gogeta is really >>>>> 550 * Baseline while Goku is 220 * Baseline, Goku can literally do nothing against him

 

[sanicspood]

yea ig this is a stomp

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Pretty sure Gogeta stomps If Gogeta is really >>>>> 550 * Baseline while Goku is 220 * Baseline, Goku can literally do nothing against him

Which form of Goku should I use then? Also i saw in Gogeta profile that he can amp his Big bang kamehameha by x100 so is this combat applicable like 10x Kamehameha?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Maybe Omega Shenron would be much fairer?

Omega Shenron and Pre-Absorption SSG Goku both scale to 110 * Baseline iirc

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Maybe Omega Shenron would be much fairer?

Omega Shenron and Pre-Absorption SSG Goku both scale to 110 * Baseline iirc

Read what I said above pls ^

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

So then what's Goku's wincon gogeta has higher ap and dura and definitely higher skills because he is a fusion between 2 very skilled fighters

That's true, I thought this would be a fair fight but I guess gogeta is much stronger.

Maybe Omega Shenron would be much fairer?

Omega Shenron and Pre-Absorption SSG Goku both scale to 110 * Baseline iirc

I was literally going to suggest this.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Bump

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Maybe Omega Shenron would be much fairer?

Omega Shenron and Pre-Absorption SSG Goku both scale to 110 * Baseline iirc

What if used ssj Goku?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

What if used ssj Goku?

SSJ Goku would likely make it a stomp in Goku's favor, as Gogeta is just >>>>> 550 * Baseline while Goku is 11k * baseline

 

[Gohanblanco217]

SSJ Goku would likely make it a stomp in Goku's favor, as Gogeta is just >>>>> 550 * Baseline while Goku is 11k * baseline

Can't Gogeta use like a 10x Kamehameha or Big bang kamehameha x100 or a Dragon fist?

 

[Thedoctor]

end of BOG goku stomps with no effort, he's at least 300x baseline low multi with multipliers, ssj4 gogeta is only universal, super is a massively different scale then gt

 

[sanicspood]

end of BOG goku stomps with no effort, he's at least 300x baseline low multi with multipliers, ssj4 gogeta is only universal, super is a massively different scale then gt

uh goku isnt low multi on here

 

[Thedoctor]

uh goku isnt low multi on here

feats, guidebooks, and akira toriyama himself who created the series said he is, the profile is wrong so I'm rightfully going to disregard it and use my own more accurate scaling instead

 

[sanicspood]

feats, guidebooks, and akira toriyama himself who created the series said he is, the profile is wrong so I'm rightfully going to disregard it and use my own more accurate scaling instead

thats. literally not allowed, ur supposed to only use what the profiles says, if u want to upgrade go make a crt

 

[Gohanblanco217]

feats, guidebooks, and akira toriyama himself who created the series said he is, the profile is wrong so I'm rightfully going to disregard it and use my own more accurate scaling instead

You'll have to make a thread to discuss this as for Now Goku isn't low multi and you'll have to go on what is stated in Goku's profile for now if you want to chnage it you would need to make a thread to upgrade Goku to low multi

 

[Thedoctor]

everything canon is allowed in a debate using blatantly wrong scaling instead or accurate is something that I will never do

 

[sanicspood]

everything canon is allowed in a debate using blatantly wrong scaling instead or accurate is something that I will never do

if ur gonna use scaling that isnt on the profiles then dont participate. ur reasoning wont be counted cuz ur not allowed to use shit thats not on the profiles. simple rule

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

everything canon is allowed in a debate using blatantly wrong scaling instead or accurate is something that I will never do

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