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So I kinda feel like I have to make this now, since there's a few changes that have been made to the Banjo & Kazooie page without a proper CRT. I wanna cover abilities, AP + durability in this thread.
Abilities
Banjo & Kazooie: Out of the changes made on the profile, I agree with Summoning (Kazooie Clockwork Eggs are basically minature explosive robots, can summon vehicles with the magic wrench), Body Control (Reasons already stated), Healing (Through sleeping in his backpack and the HONEYBACK cheat which btw is a canon upgrade), Toon Force (Mainly for the reasons he has dimensional storage and pocket reality manipulation).
I disagree with dimensional storage + pocket reality manipulation, since they seem to be extrapolating Banjo's toon force, along with Shapeshifting (Banjo & Kazooie can only shapeshift via Mumbo Jumbo's magic. This is outside help, not an ability).
Gruntilda: Curse Manipulation (Cursed Mumbo Jumbo to wear a skull on his head for as long as she is alive), Clairvoyance (Knew that King Jingaling gave Banjo a jiggy even when she was kilometers away from them), Healing (Cheato, the sentient spell book that gave Banjo the HONEYBACK cheat, belonged to Gruntilda originally. She should have access to HONEYBACK, which gives her access to Healing)
Lord of Games: Forcefield Creation (self explanatory), Data Manipulation (Via pixellation), Mind Manipulation (After Gruntilda lost the game, LOG made Piddles the Cat no longer subservient to Gruntilda, along with several mindless Gruntbots )
Existence Erasure for Gruntilda. Her plot manipulation makes it so that you are deleted from the plot if you cheat (cheats are canon), shown by the game over screen following this (which also appears if you die) and the lack of save file (theres no save file to go back to since you no longer exist). I believe Lord of Games should get this as well as his plot manipulation is logically superior to Grunty's.
Mumbo Jumbo: Age Manipulation (His magic can change Baby T-rexes to grown up T-rexes)
Possible Telepathy for the aforementioned three characters (They can 'speak' to you when they are nowhere near you).
Attack Potency
I believe the main cast should be Large Building level+ for several reasons. Firstly, they fight and defeat enemies the size of large buildings (like Terry ), keep in mind that Banjo himself is larger than most humans. Secondly, there was a calculation that put Gruntilda at Large Building level+ (found here ). Thirdly, the HAG-1 created an earthquake strong enough to shake Banjo's house from quite the distance away, which should qualify for Magnitude 3.5 (which is Large Building level). There's also quite a few support feats at Building level
Gruntilda + Banjo & Kazooie should have a City Block level key with vehicles. Someone calced the [1] spiral mountain bust to be 8-B. This should scale to all vehicles, and perhaps Nuts & Bolts Gruntilda too for taking direct hits from Banjo's vehicles which are comparable.
EDIT: Mr. Bambu has redone the calculation here, and once it is accepted, it yields Multi-City Block level.
LOG is obviously unaffected.
Speed
I haven't got any better feats for speed yet, but their current speed feats aren't really justified. Thoughts?
Abilities
Banjo & Kazooie: Out of the changes made on the profile, I agree with Summoning (Kazooie Clockwork Eggs are basically minature explosive robots, can summon vehicles with the magic wrench), Body Control (Reasons already stated), Healing (Through sleeping in his backpack and the HONEYBACK cheat which btw is a canon upgrade), Toon Force (Mainly for the reasons he has dimensional storage and pocket reality manipulation).
I disagree with dimensional storage + pocket reality manipulation, since they seem to be extrapolating Banjo's toon force, along with Shapeshifting (Banjo & Kazooie can only shapeshift via Mumbo Jumbo's magic. This is outside help, not an ability).
Gruntilda: Curse Manipulation (Cursed Mumbo Jumbo to wear a skull on his head for as long as she is alive), Clairvoyance (Knew that King Jingaling gave Banjo a jiggy even when she was kilometers away from them), Healing (Cheato, the sentient spell book that gave Banjo the HONEYBACK cheat, belonged to Gruntilda originally. She should have access to HONEYBACK, which gives her access to Healing)
Lord of Games: Forcefield Creation (self explanatory), Data Manipulation (Via pixellation), Mind Manipulation (After Gruntilda lost the game, LOG made Piddles the Cat no longer subservient to Gruntilda, along with several mindless Gruntbots )
Existence Erasure for Gruntilda. Her plot manipulation makes it so that you are deleted from the plot if you cheat (cheats are canon), shown by the game over screen following this (which also appears if you die) and the lack of save file (theres no save file to go back to since you no longer exist). I believe Lord of Games should get this as well as his plot manipulation is logically superior to Grunty's.
Mumbo Jumbo: Age Manipulation (His magic can change Baby T-rexes to grown up T-rexes)
Possible Telepathy for the aforementioned three characters (They can 'speak' to you when they are nowhere near you).
Attack Potency
I believe the main cast should be Large Building level+ for several reasons. Firstly, they fight and defeat enemies the size of large buildings (like Terry ), keep in mind that Banjo himself is larger than most humans. Secondly, there was a calculation that put Gruntilda at Large Building level+ (found here ). Thirdly, the HAG-1 created an earthquake strong enough to shake Banjo's house from quite the distance away, which should qualify for Magnitude 3.5 (which is Large Building level). There's also quite a few support feats at Building level
Gruntilda + Banjo & Kazooie should have a City Block level key with vehicles. Someone calced the [1] spiral mountain bust to be 8-B. This should scale to all vehicles, and perhaps Nuts & Bolts Gruntilda too for taking direct hits from Banjo's vehicles which are comparable.
EDIT: Mr. Bambu has redone the calculation here, and once it is accepted, it yields Multi-City Block level.
LOG is obviously unaffected.
Speed
I haven't got any better feats for speed yet, but their current speed feats aren't really justified. Thoughts?
