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Bakugo vs Azula Rematch (Grace)

CaptainSparkz said:
That looks bending related cause they aren't fire proof. Plus Katara does something similar when she fights Hama and I highly doubt Katara is High 8C physically.
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how does equate to durability though

It doesn't translate physically but to their shields with bending.
 
As powerful as their bending since it's just accumulated around their hands and explosion when they met. They can't bend explosions either.
 
So wait you're telling me characters who get oneshot or notably injured by High 8C attacks and building level+ attacks can no sell a High 8C explosion to the face? With absolutely no physical damage like burned clothes or skin?
 
Yes, because not all characters have the same durability.

The only injuries I've seen is heat-based injury from Katara when Aang burnt her. The various times Aang has been knocked down. Iroh getting burnt (which I should check) but there are no anti-feats for either Zuko or Azula.

Firebenders should resist heat and as for clothes not being torn off, that's simply a common troupe within fiction.
 
The current argument, or at least the basis behind all these arguments, is that Azula can severely harm Bakugo with her lightning, yes? Because Bakugo has a feat of electricity tanking that should make him fully capable of taking a lightning bolt from Azula, and then never let her get another one off.

Also, I looked up the context for that aoe lightning scan, and it wasn't aoe at all. Right after she posed like that, she pointed in another direction to lead some animals(?) away. She wasn't fighting anyone, and that lightning definitely isn't aoe, or only requires one motion.
 
Iroh is stronger than Azula and got burned and there are no feats of fire benders resisting heat.

Zuko's durability feats are building level+ and he has nothing else above that besides this explosion that can't even damage cloth.
 
Insert creative name here 12 said:
Iroh is stronger than Azula and got burned and there are no feats of fire benders resisting heat.

Zuko's durability feats are building level+ and he has nothing else above that besides this explosion that can't even damage cloth.
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Exactly
 
wow a lot can happen when you leave for a few hours. what we do know about her lightning is that season 2 Azula's lightning could 1 shot kill (not just K.O.) Aang in the season finale. Aang was fatally injured and only survived because of Katara's water from the north pole. Also, it's interesting that you say that if Bakugo will emerge from lightning completely unscathed and then never get hit by it again, both of which are claims that are absolutely not true. If it'll fatally wound Aang, it'll definitely at least significantly damage Bakugo, putting him in a significantly physically reduced state. Also, it really doesn't matter what the AoE lightning was for in the scene since it still clearly shot out in many different directions. Also, the 1 motion lightning wasn't in reference to the AoE kind, but just the normal kind. Either way, 1 motion lightning and AoE lightning aren't in S3 Azula's arsinal imo. Even still, I see no reason to think that Azula will get hit by a direct explosion since it's incredibly easy for her to create a fire sheild, requiring only one motion. She has also demonstrated the use of full body sheilds when she blocked the combined force of Aang, Toph, Katara, and Zuko as well as the subsequent explosion.
 
Aang has the second worst durability in the show next to Toph, it's not exactly a feat for Azula to one shot him with a direct hit of anything. And I didn't say he'd emerge unscathed from lightning, just that he can take the pain better than any of Azula's other opponents due to his absolutely absurd pain tolerance and durability advantage. Bakugo can fight with all of his bones breaking continuously, you're underestimating how much damage it takes to KO him.

There is no AoE lightning though, she just built up lighting then shot it in a different direction to lead some spirits away. She doesn't have aoe lightning at all, the scan showing it was out of context.

As for the fire shield, it still doesn't answer stun grenade or AP shot. Direct force would pierce through and hit her, as that's what the AP shot is designed to do, and the stun grenade doesn't care regardless. Needing to put up a shield every time Bakugo attacks is a dampener on Azula's options, especially since it could lead to her being predicted and damaged. Bakugo will catch on that she puts up the shield each time to block him, and will absolutely take advantage of it.

If the shield can be worked around, the strength of it doesn't matter.
 
but again, you're considering the sheild to be a single move. it's essentially the equivalent of blocking a punch with your arms. There's a lot of ways to do it and Azula doesn't just have one method. Also, I'm still pretty sure that the fire sheild could take the AP shot
 
And similar to blocking a punch with your arm, it can be worked around and isn't perfect. If Azula throws up a wall, Bakugo can flip over it with his flight and hit Azula from behind if she hasn't protected her entire body. Stun grenade goes through either way, and the AP shot should pierce through. Sheer force isn't something that can be blocked by fire, and it's the main component of how Bakugo's AP shot can pierce solid concrete easily.
 
Insert creative name here 12 said:
Iroh is stronger than Azula and got burned and there are no feats of fire benders resisting heat.

Zuko's durability feats are building level+ and he has nothing else above that besides this explosion that can't even damage cloth.
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Iroh has one case of catching Azula off-guard and kicking her off the boat. Being more skilled and experienced is one thing but nothing suggest he's physically stronger. In any case even if we said he's stonger that would be S2 Azula not S3.

That's wrong Zuko directly tanked Azula's firebending in that same episode Iroh got burnt. And "cloth not getting burnt" is blatant downplay. Stop.

Also Iroh was catch off-guard which is obvious for various reasons.

1. Azula feigned going in one direction but suddenly shot a fire blast which Iroh didn't react to

2. If Iroh was on guard he wouldn't have let the attack hit him at all.
 
How does the season Azula is from have to with her oneshotting one of the stronger characters in the series who clearly has high physicals as shown by him being able to react to Azula and fight off various soldiers.

How is what I said downplay? The explosion wasn't even able to burn their clothes that's a fact.

There are still no high 8C durability feats besides tanking an explosion that can't even damage their clothing or injure their skin.

If Zuko and Azula are so tough they can shrug off an explosion equivalent to their AP, why do they bother dissipating attacks or blocking when they could just bum rush right through it with no damage.
 
damaging their clothing is just a trope that allows the animators to keep the same design. It doesn't at all speak to the intensity of the explosion. Consider, for instanse, the explosion that formed from Zuko, Aang, Katara, and Toph all firing at Azula at once. The whole damned town they were in was set ablaze, but did any of their clothes recieve damage? no! it's the same thing with clothes and water damage too. As for not injuring their skin, that's literally the reason why they're as durable as they are! if it did injur them then their durability would be significantly worse!
 
That explosion that didn't harm the Gaang is either an outlier or at the very least is contradictory and Aang and Toph of all people with their low tier durability tanked it. This same Aang got injured through his earth armor by Azula blasting him.

Zuko has building level - building level+ feats and isn't shown to have improved notably physically unless you can prove Zuko and Azula can physcially no sell their own flames then there isn't a case and this can be considered an outlier. Even then the feat begs the question of why they don't just run through their own flames regularly?

Lastly I'm pretty sure there are multiple instances of Avatar characters surffering even just temporary battle damage.
 
Sora and buff riku said:
Aren't they naturally resistance to there elementals though or not ? Might have been the reason why.
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They don't have feats like that though. Iroh is a stronger bender than Azula and still got burned from one blast, Zuko and Azula regularly dodge, block or dissipate fire attacks, Toph is unrionically one of the most fragile characters in the show and Katara isn't resistant to cold, heat or water.
 
firstly, they do not natrally resist their own elements. idk where you got that from. secondly, there are many examples of Avatar characters surviving specifically explosions at near point blank range where they get thrown backward, but are otherwise unscathed
 
The explosion covering the town is either PIS or an outlier since Aang and Toph of all people were unscathed from it.

Zuko has his tier, Zuko isn't noted or shown to have notably improved physically, a High 8C explosion doing absolutely no damage to two characters who don't resist fire and have feats below said AP sounds like an outlier or PIS. If Zuko or Azula were that tough they wouldn't put up shields or dodge their flames.
 
putting up a flame shield is still preferable to taking attacks head on though, so yes they would
 
Wasting energy to block an attack that can't harm you vs tanking said irrelevant attack to tag your opponent or do anything else. The latter clearly sounds better since it requires nothing from you.
 
it doesn't really require energy. They would probably prefer not to be flung backward if they can
 
oh you were refering to the fire when they fight. It's simply that the fire itself is stronger than the explosions that they survive.
 
but explosions can still be calculated, and my point is that Azula wouldn't just be snapped like a toothpick at the slightest breeze
 
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