Baba is You revision

[DontTalkDT]

I have applied what was debated here now. Better check whether I forgot something or screwed up in some regards, the edit got pretty chaotic.

A few questions that came up in the progress:

1. Should we treat Baba pushing things with X IS PUSH as a physical strength thing for Baba or as a result of law manipulation? Matters for Striking Strength and Durability.
2. Should ALL IS DONE be considered a suicide move?

 

[SauceSorcery]

1. Physical strength. Law manipulation simply makes them physical and pushable, when they would be non-physical otherwise, since STOP is not the default and is instead a law designed to make something impossible to move, except by SHIFT and the STOP object's own movements. I think a trickier question is whether or not SHIFT counts as lifting something and moving it.

I can see the potential confusion around push since it also allows Baba to push things that are embedded into the ground such as grass and water, as well as pushing things that even when physical, aren't easy to push such as cloud, as well as pushing things that are floating above him... Regardless and unlike possibly the SHIFT law, the law isn't doing the pushing for Baba.

2. Yes. We don't know if ALL IS DONE can remove the mind behind the YOU law, but it removes not only all objects in range, but also all text in range which is unusual because ALL normally excludes text and empty. This means that it at least incaps Baba permanently and does not allow Baba to survive it through TEXT IS YOU or EMPTY IS YOU. It presumably nulls HAS and all other laws, giving it some interesting properties.

 

[DontTalkDT]

1. Ok, we can keep it then.

2. That would mean it's either a suicide or self-incapacitation move, which is more or less the same.

 

[SauceSorcery]

I'm pretty much saying, it's unclear if it's truly suicide or just self-incapacitation because we don't see what it does to the mind behind YOU.

 

[Agnaa]

Yes but they're essentially the same thing for match purposes.

 

[SauceSorcery]

Fair enough. Baba has zero ways to come back from that, so it might as well be suicide.