Inverse fights don’t help in vs matchups
This doesn’t mean he will beat gray bro lol matchups make fights
okay can you explain how he will bypass grays resistance to preparation, analytical prediction, and weapon use so others will know what to vote for if they choose Koji
Ok so, Let's start
If he doesn't hit Koji then it's useless
Gray has analytical prediction resistance
I didn’t want him to have the gloves but if it’s his standard equipment we can’t remove it due to them always having it.
Resistence to ANPR doesn't work like that
It says "Gloves" not "Plastered Gloves"
This doesn’t apply to gray who has 24 hours to prepare and will learn every physical and mental detail about him before formulating a plan to counter him. If he knows everything about Ayanoukouji the skill disadvantage is negated.
Shiba and Tsukishiro had months in advance to prepare for Koji iirc, They were still massacred and outskilled to oblivion
They don’t have preparation feats like Gray has and Gray has more detailed information about how he prepares and has prepared for people as skilled as Kouji. Donald Na defeated a soldier/mercenary/hitman type of character in the office with ease. That character should have the same level of skill as someone like Tsukishiro, who is stated to be Ayanokoji’s equal. Which means Gray can resist character with Ayanokouji’s skill.
Wth, They do, They have been in the white room and had access to Ayanokouji's data and feats wtf
No skill feats showned whatsoever, Also no, They were not stated to be soldiers/mercenarys nor hitmans so this point is null
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Tsukishiro negs Gray in preparation, he has 2nd Year Island feats (both combat and intelligence), ESE feats, indirect negotiation preparation (Y2V1). This is just not a comparison. Tsukishiro is quite literally a complex strategist with completely predicted and planned out stuff for preparation.
That’s preparation but it’s not a preparation feat because they weren’t successful. Thats what makes Batman such a hard character to beat. Almost any time he prepares he wins. Idk how useful prep is , if the only time you tried you failed. That’s not more effective than Gray
Yes it was. When he pulled out his knife when he got serious he said it to Donald Na right before he cut his shirt sleeve open.
What skill feats does ayanokouji have exactly? He has like 4 fights . Ryuen gang is not skilled. Nanase is not more skilled than Gray. The only comparison is the Tsukishiro fight and he didn’t beat them by himself. Kiryuin was watching herself and accessed he needed help, and Koji stated they made him cold sweat. Im not sure where the skill gap you refer to comes from bro
Not in a million years, Characters from Weak Hero do not possess the sheer amount of skill feats that Ayanokouji has, This is a heavy mismatch and Koji stomps no concept of diff
Funny you say that, Gray also failed miserably to win against a weakened and tired Donald Na
I still don't see how that is enough to match Koji?
I showed you above
1 failure doesn’t overshadow the 50 successes especially when gray had much more success against Donald than they had against ayanokouji. Which just makes my point even more. Gray has multiple showings while they only have the one they failed in.
Preparation is unique to the character that has it. Gray’s form of preparation is similar to Batman’s which is why I used him. He learns every minute detail including breathing patterns, fighting styles, background history, even down to the food you eat. He leaves no stones unturned.
He has the same narrative in Weak Hero as Tsukishiro does in cote. A “professional” level fighter, and Kouji said that is his equal.
Agree here that his feats mentioned above lead to a massive skill stomp. Gray doesn't have a wincon that would work against Koji. He gets out skilled, Koji has better ANPR and ANPR resistance, he can fight even with visually impaired so that won't help Gray, he can learn and adapt mid fight if somehow the fight was continuing.How can you even read this and assume Weak Hero characters are on Koji level when they dont even have feats like these
The white room is stated to create artificial geniuses in combat and intelligence
Ayanokoji was stated to be a genius among geniuses
He has stayed there for 14 years in total with a total of 15330 number of fights with the white room stating they fought 3 times per day
Ayanokouji trained Jeet Kune Do, Boxing, Karate, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Aikido, Taijutsu and Judo in the WR
Jeet Kune Do and Taijutsu is a composite martial arts, Meaning Ayanokouji knows more than 20 martial arts;
With said martial arts he was against professional fighters and masters in their own field
- Wing Chun, Tai Chi, taekwondo, boxing, fencing and jujutsu, fencing, arnis, judo, Wrestling, Mixed Martial Arts, Emerson Combat System, Savate and Wei Kuen Do for Jeet Kune do
- Gendai Goshin Jutsu, Yamabujin Goshin-Jutsu, Fuji Ryu Goshindo JiuJitsu, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu, Kenpo for Taijtusu
He has a perfect record of wins against professional fighters
His adaptability allowed him to go from losing in the first match to winning in the 2nd round against Shiro, With Shiro stating after Ayanokouji wins the gap between them keeps increasing more and more
Ayanokouji is superior in terms of skills against Manabu who is a 5th dan in karate where you need more than 20+ years to achieve this level of mastery and 4th dan in aikido where you need more than 15+ years of training to achieve this level of mastery and Manabu is just 18 years old
Ayanokouji also knows the various weak points of the human body and used them to win against 6 fighters who were stated by Koji himself that they were stronger than him physically
Has experience in fighting people who are far stronger and faster than himself such as the adults they were training with who were masters in their fields
Ayanokouji was also stated by age 9 to have already defeated every instructor who teached him everything he knows
Stated that he has been numerous times in absurd and disadvantages situations drilled into him as a kid
The White Room also stated that the 6th generation and 7th generation attempted the level 5 and 6 and they were stated to have been obliterated further showing how insane the level 10 really is, With the Beta Curriculum stated to be in a different dimension compared to the level 10
It was stated that he never reached his "plateau" which means he never reached the full potential despite the white room training being supposed to improve human abilities at a young age and was stated to be a monster by his own father
Was also trained on how to use weapons such as the baton, Knife and a taser
The white room also trains the user's analytical abilities of the subject
Was outperforming the white room training
The fifth generation of the white room who had a weaker training regime were capable of measuring distance between them and their opponent without looking, Takuya being able to analyze upon abilities and deduce that Sakayanagi was the one in control of majority of the 1st Years, Yagami is also showned to be capable of seeing through lies, And Ichika was able to gap the strength between her, and Suzune and Ibuki and was able to completely analyze her opponents in the volleyball match of Year 2 Sports Festival, The white room students are showned to be able to use this ability due to the white room enviroment, They can memorize attack patterns and Predict trajetories of flying objects as they spent their entire life and learned everything they know there
Tremendously more skilled than Ichika Amasawa and Takuya Yagami who did the 4th level of the white room
Got an idea of his opponents being much stronger than the adults he had fought before and having been in an uphill battle just upon analyzing their movements, chose a weapon to fight them upon looking at the pros and cons of a given weapon upon the information
He is capable of copying skills by absorbing visual and verbal information perfectly, Could also learn archery by watching tutorial videos and surpassed Ichika who had been training a day prior
Can gauge the opponent strength by mere glancing and know what martial arts they are using with a glance
Is massively superior to the likes of Ichika Amasawa due to much harder curriculum and should have learnt the abilities of likes of Ichika much before. Can determine each and every possibility to visualize the future to some extent. Ayanokouji was able to determine that Manabu was aiming to throw his sister when he was still pinning her and even asked him to confirm it, on hearing the predictions, Manabu also asks Ayanokouji on how was he able to figure out what he was trying to do. Ayanokouji can out-predict his opponents after he completely understands their upper limit, this has been displayed when Ayanokouji misreads Ryuuen's upper limit and then corrects it, it has been confirmed when Tsukishiro and Shiba deliberately tried to hide their abilities to prevent Ayanokouji from gaining an advantage. However, He can use his intuition to read his opponents and also determine their abilities as well. Ayanokouji also analyzes Hōsen from the sides and predicts that he was aiming to harm himself, something which cannot be predicted from the posture Hōsen was in
Defeated Tsukishiro, an Assassin that was once hired by a Prime Minister, who he admitted was on his level.
Held off Tsukishiro/Shiba who are both White Room agents or instructors
Ayanokouji notes exactly how Tsukishiro had read 99% of his mind which was him feeding Tsukishiro false information and that he won't let him analyze his true thoughts/intentions which was the 1%.
Can kill his presence. He also followed several people without being noticed.
Said it himself that he was capable of fighting Tsubasa Nanase even with his eyes closed and Ibuki too
Batman with prep time literally works because more often than not his prep leads him to acquire a hard counter to whoever he is fighting (think his protocols to take out the Justice League if needed, or having Kryptonite for Superman etc.) There isn't just a "hard counter" to Koji skill stomping with better ANPR.
I hate double standards
Failing to win against someone even with prep time means the opponent is just to skilled to win wtf
No he doesn't wtf, This is giving false information, Nowhere is it stated that he is a professional fighter
I’m not sure where you got this from. Gray Yeon simply wins off the fact he has empowerment and can boost his stats which negate speed equalization. stat amps > speed equalized
Gary has better hax and overall abilities. Skill and Anpr is negated once speed equalization is also negated from empowerment which boosts his speed and AP through rage.
I hope you know ANPR is not the answer to everything. Especially characters with stat amps that Kouji has no answer for since he doesn’t have any of his own. He will get out statted by Gray.
Explained this above already
You do know that Koji one shots right?
He doesn't, Koji with PP has dura neg, Sleep manip, Pain manip and status inducement effect
Doesn't boost him to the point of blitzing Koji lol
His stat amp is not a blitz amp, He also gets one shotted lol
Skill is not the only way to defeat a prep time user. Donald beat grey with sheer willpower. Koji and Gray have supernatural willpower in this fight. So it cancels out. Idk how Kouji has it tbh because being slammed to the ground repeatedly is not supernatural, and the other kids endured it too which makes it even less impressive if they’re supposed to be so much more inferior to Kouji.
It was never stated that the white room instructors Ayanokouji was trained by were pros but you use it. I’ve read vol 0 multiple times and they were just described as abusive. Even the people kouji beat with the baton were gangsters, not professional fighters. Tsukishiro the closing this to a pro in that verse.
Empowerment hax > Skill
Gray Yeon does this he just isn’t an assassin.
Kouji himself also said Shiba punch has the same power as his and he said Manabu can one shot him. One shotting in cote isn’t that impressive because they all can significantly damage each other the difference comes in with experience.
Too bad that Koji defeated both of them with skill
Koji doesn't have it though?
Reggor legit gave you scans about that, Now you are actively ignoring it??
I have already told you and showed you proof they are professional fighters, I don't know why you dismissed this?
Not really, If the amp isn't even blitz worthy or one shot worthy then this is pretty irrelevant
He doesn't, He never showed being able to read someone's mind which is a broken ANPR feat
Reggor has explained why this isn't the case
Wrong. Please look at Grays profile again. His durability is higher than his AP and says wall level, his AP is street. Not his dura. His durability scales to Jake ji’s feat so his dura is 90KJ.
There is no 2x gap. Gray has tanked punches from harder punchers than koji
Ayanokoji doesn’t have the preparation ability on his page which is why I couldn’t add it for him. Only gray has it for this fight. Unless you get it added.
This won’t help him against an empowerment user. He needs his stats boosted to lessen the speed gap
ANPR is negated by empowerment. He can’t read attacks he can’t see coming, Kouji doesn’t have feats against opponents faster than him only comparable. When Nanase boosted her speed, she was slower than him and boosted it to lessen the gap she was behind him. In this fight Kouji and gray start equally and as gray is empowered his stats are boosted above Kouji’s which he can’t duplicate with his own amps. Because he doesn’t have any.
This also won’t help against stat amps. Its better if the fight was still equalized
Yes is is and no he doesn’t . I explained his dura is higher than Kouji’s AP
In case it was missed I also see no way Gray can even come close to winning. I also vote Koji FRA
See now you are using vote manipulation. You are saying he can one shot a character with wall level durability. You will report me for this too? You just biasly voting koji at this point
A street character can’t one shot a character with wall level durability ?????
Didn't see this, But still, This is irrelevant
You are assuming his empowerment will increase 2x his AP and speed which is wrong lol, Also what i said above
No, What i meant by this is that Koji has pressure points
There's no speed gap since speed is equalized lol
Argument from incredulity
His time in the white room when he was 4 years old says otherwise, Koji has experience in dealing with opponents far stronger and faster than him (The professional fighters)
Irrelevant
Argument from incredulity
Koji still has durability negation via PP attacks and massively skill stomps so Gray has no way to avoid that. Even with Wall level durability that wouldn't change anything
Wrong. Ayanokōuji said right before this when he attacked Albert’s solar plexus that he cant reply on pressure point attacks to always work on every opponent. His own words. That debunks this.
It doesn’t matter how fast. It’s faster than Ayanokouji which gives him an advantage that we haven’t seen Ayanokouji overcome. Empowerment negates speed equalization and he gets faster while Ayanokouji stays the same. To counter this point would be to show he can fight against people faster than himself.
Gray would know this with preparation and predict it with his own ANPR.
Speed is not equalized after empowerment is used. Empowerment eliminates speed equalized which is the point of the amp
You can’t dismiss an amp it’s very relevant. How does Kouji counter this? I don’t remember him fighting someone faster than him
How do we know they are faster? If his training is like you say it is they wouldn’t be faster than him since his reaction time is abnormal according to Tsukishiro
Gray has a 6.848484848484848x dura advantage over Ayanokouji’s AP. This would make him atleast 5x more durable than Albert who Ayanokouji also couldn’t damage with his punches until he attacked his weak points.
His own statements debunk all of this. He shouldn’t have these abilities since he said himself pressure point attacks don’t always work on opponents in his own verse. Gray dura scales 6.8x higher than cote which means they for sure won’t work on him like they did ibuki
